Suspicious voting behavior reporting thread

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#101 by fuukanou
2019-06-10 at 19:38
#100, I think he's saying basically people should only rate games that they like the genre (nukige, nakige etc.) of. While I sorta agree, I also don't agree.

I think the solution #99 is missing is that you should look at the people rating the game and look for people with similar tastes and ratings as you in the list. Obviously this has flaws as well, but restricting voting doesn't help.
#102 by kratoscar2008
2019-06-10 at 19:58
I dont get the point of policing anyone's tastes. Like for instance i hate NTR but i dont go and give them an score since i know it will be in the lows but if im playing a mainly nonNTR game and it adds an NTR scene i sure as hell will give it a low score no matter how optional, contextually fitting or well written the NTR is. Many will argue a lot of things: the NTR scene shouldnt damn the entire game, it fits the narrative, i didnt even read the NTR to see its importance, etc. BUt you dont put NTR in a game where 90% of the content is only with the MC (Looking at you Meikoku 1 and 2 to a lesser extent) and i will give a low score by only seeing a single CG or text implying NTR.
At the end of the day why do people give scores such a big deal?Last modified on 2019-06-10 at 20:01
#103 by ramaladni
2019-06-10 at 20:06
#101 I think it'd be cool if you could add friends and have their ratings/owned releases show up on the vn page.

About what you said though, it made me remember a time when I used to visit a certain H-manga website and list releases by score. What would happen was that people would give harsh scores to anything they didn't like based on the tags. Thus something that I'd really like would sometimes end up buried with a 2/5 score.

Well, we're getting a bit off-topic anyhow. I think we should leave it at this.Last modified on 2019-06-10 at 20:07
#104 by sakurakoi
2019-06-10 at 20:27
Well, the sole flaw with a Recommended/Not Recommended System would be that oh-so-important-and-absolutely-no-value votes were to be reset.

You could save most of this work and discourage malicious votes with that system since for one they will have much less weight. Additionally one can clearly indicate and ask:

"Would you recommend this work based on
its suggested price,
description as well as other available information matching the content and the raised expectations
and it fitting into it's intended/targeted genre/audience
to others?"

This in return could easily tie into another system which encourages the use of the prior:

Searching for others with similar preferences i.e "User X's preference match with yours to 90%" and looking at what oneself has yet to mark as either or. No arbitrary math needed for that. One could even select several users with high compatibility to see which titles are controverse.


By the by, if you look at which games are popular, you will find that within the 100 most popular, the last 5 years are represented by 5 works. 2 in the top 50, 3 between 50 and 100. There is actually no work for 2018 nor 2019. Only starting 2012 there are more than 3, namely 9 for 2012 which stays near consistent until 2009. (Drops 2008)

This may be caused by most localized titles being older but the 5 works I mentioned are:
Doki Doki Literature Club!, New Danganronpa V3, Neko Para Vol.2 translated the same year/OELVN
Steins;Gate 0, one year later
Chrono Clock, two years later
It's not like there are 5 years in between original and translation. While ofc with each passing year we get more translations than the year before. Although many hybrids (of which SP has many while JAST&MG are hosting for groups) ain't listed even though they'd fit.
#105 by ramaladni
2019-06-11 at 09:50
#104 I have replied to you in link
#106 by [deleted]
2019-06-11 at 19:05
u35572 is legit, every game he drops he rates as 1, if I recall correctly from talking to him once. And honestly I'd take someone who rates basically following a "didn't enjoy", "was ok", and "enjoyed" over people who obsess with decimal scores and attempt to quantify their enjoyment of visual novels on an extremely meticulous scale.Last modified on 2019-06-11 at 19:50
#107 by pillostorm
2019-07-03 at 18:57
u146084 Seems to have voted 10 on the only two VNs he made. Is it allowed to vote on your own VNs?
#108 by beliar
2019-07-03 at 19:10
Yes. Whatever you think about people who do that, we do allow to vote on the VNs you have created.
#109 by pillostorm
2019-07-04 at 01:21
Oh, I see. I found it suspicious because those are his only votes.
#110 by bobjr2000
2019-07-04 at 18:57
they might b his only votes ever as well. No rule against creator hating or loving own creation. Maybe if they were downvoting rival companies/creators might be against rules.
#111 by hoss
2019-08-05 at 09:12
Suspicious 5 accounts spam 1 on Fata Morgana and Rance 10 one after another

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#112 by hoss
2019-08-08 at 11:16
Suspicious 6 accounts consistently give 10 to WA 2 which two of them somehow vote on Rance 10 without read any Rance titles before, better check in case some of them is duplicate account (mostly lie down on hidden ones)Last modified on 2019-08-08 at 11:19
#113 by thewayfarer
2019-08-08 at 22:13
May want to dismiss this user's vote on Kokorone=Pendulum! whose purpose here was two vandalisms on the visual novel's release(s).

At least it's what they were here for.
#114 by beliar
2019-08-08 at 23:20
Indeed he appears to be just a troll, so both the editing privileges had been removed and the votes invalidated.
#115 by hoss
2019-08-09 at 07:51
Somehow there seem to be user who keep making new accounts to bump WA 2 higher, pretty noticable example being river3, river1 and game777 have pretty similar pattern of voting by bump WA2 and F/SN up and lower down Rance 10, Clannad and sometimes Fata Morgana. WA 2 also have suspicious hidden account voted 10 on it consistently these days

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#116 by yorhel
2019-08-09 at 08:39
@beliar: No evidence of that user doing any of the 3 things I outlined at the start of the thread, though, so I've reinstated the vote. I'm strict with those rules, I don't want a "VNDB influences the vote stats!" discussion.

@hoss: Yup, still the same person. They seem to be persistent...
#117 by hoss
2019-08-12 at 04:24
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again...
#118 by eacil
2019-08-20 at 00:44
Aren't those two guys the same? u34112 u33893
Accounts created around the same time, same uncommon votes distribution, same games a lot of time voted the same day, or almost, etc.
#119 by fuukanou
2019-08-20 at 02:30
#118, this has been posted before in this thread. They are people in a group of two called Twin Project, so it makes sense they have similar tastes.
#120 by eacil
2019-08-20 at 03:53
I see, I can't argue against twincest.
#121 by hoss
2019-08-30 at 11:41
Suspicious duplicate account made only to downvote MLA and Fata Morgana
#122 by hin12
2019-09-07 at 02:38
#18 #118 they give the exact same ratings to the exact same games in May and June.
Edit: Looking further into the ratings, there are some games with slightly different ratings. Still no way that the accounts could be actually independent from each other (meatpuppet).Last modified on 2019-09-07 at 02:46
#123 by fuukanou
2019-09-07 at 02:45
#122, read #90, this has already been discussed.
#124 by hoss
2019-10-19 at 05:00
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Suspicious duplicate account made only to downvote certain VNs
#125 by yorhel
2019-10-19 at 06:08
Duplicate account of whom?

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