|#1 by bunny1ov3r|
2018-03-13 at 06:33
|This VN is literally an electronic novel with photographic background and ambient sound. It even reads by scrolling down rather than hitting enter for the next line. Undoubtedly, I would say that this is not for everyone. It was intended to be published as a novel. However, for various reasons, the publisher refused to publish this work, so the author made this into a doujin "game" instead.|
I say again, that this is not for everyone. Not everyone will like the oppressive atmosphere and pessimistic outlook on life flaunted in this novel.
But, if you are a fan of Setoguchi Ren'ya's work (writer of Kira Kira, Swan Song, etc.) and his obnoxious style of using depressive contents to touch on something deeply emotional, you should definitely check this out. I'd also recommend his novel 'Shitai Dorobou'.
A personal 9/10.Last modified on 2018-03-13 at 06:36
|#2 by tronc|
2018-07-12 at 21:55
|Where can I download this visual novel I can not find and how to run it may be an install versionLast modified on 2018-07-12 at 21:57|
|#3 by bunny1ov3r|
2018-07-13 at 01:09
|I downloaded the Chinese version, sorry.|
|#4 by fuukanou|
2018-07-13 at 01:17
|Does this even count as a VN?|
It's not choice based, and it's not NVL, ADV or a variant.
It is visual, and it's a novel, but I'm not sure it's a visual novel.
|#5 by bunny1ov3r|
2018-07-13 at 01:23
|It's an electronic novel with ambient sound and background images. Not sure if that count.|
|#6 by kiru|
2018-07-13 at 06:49
|But it is NVL.|
|#7 by sakurakoi|
2018-07-13 at 07:42
It is visualI dare to say it is less visual than a light novel.
But it is NVL.Technically, it is not since even if you dare to call it that (I would not) the "textbox" does not cover the whole screen or all of it but goes beyond. Even setting technicalities aside, the difference is obvious and there is only so much one should take away from Visual Novels before they become elaborate electronic novels. Reducing it to ambient sounds and background images is too far...
but hey, I might as well write a web novel and turn it into a website/wordpress (after all websites are seen as legitimate platform) which has ambient sound&(photographic) backgrounds images. Certainly not my loss for the added exposure. Not quite sure how I could sell it on Steam thou' (I would actually pay the entry price since if I were to sell it, I must be confident in my work and its quality. Customer Convenience is also my motto i.e you could turn both sounds&images off and that setting would even be saved~)
|#8 by kiru|
2018-07-13 at 08:54
|It doesn't matter if you advance the text by clicking enter or by scrolling it. NVL format just means, you have novel text on a background. The background should obviously change according to the story. Sprites are optional.|
It would be really silly if something wouldn't be ADV or NVL, just because you don't advance the text in the exact same way...
|#9 by tronc|
2018-07-13 at 12:21
|The site asks for registration to download the Chinese versionlink|
I do not know if I can download anywhere elseLast modified on 2018-07-13 at 12:26
|#10 by fuukanou|
2018-07-13 at 17:18
|#8 it's not a visual novel if you manipulate by scrolling. Does this mean that HTML5 webpages that do the same thing also can be visual novels? Is BBC News now a visual novel producer?|
Link to example BBC News HTML5 'visual novel' : linkLast modified on 2018-07-13 at 17:21
|#11 by fabsu93|
2018-07-13 at 17:44
|#10 by that logic newspaper should be considered a book of short stories. lol|
|#12 by kiru|
2018-07-13 at 17:45
|If it's a game (aka something you execute separately and works on its own), it doesn't matter what's inside.|
I mean think about it, you have two games that are exactly the same. But one you advance with scrolling, the other with enter. Why the heck would the first one not be a VN, but the latter would be fine?
Also I'm pretty sure we only talk about the text here. The images don't scroll like that. They change at key points. Like in, you know, a completely normal NVL VN. Which is the point here. It's a completely normal NVL style. The only difference seems to be that the text is streamed rather than advanced in blocks.Last modified on 2018-07-13 at 17:47
|#13 by sakurakoi|
2018-07-13 at 17:57
Link to example BBC News HTML5 'visual novel' : linkActually it is more visual since the text does not cover the screen completely and all the time!
btw, inb4 "no sound, no count"
Seriously, the evolution of reading is very obvious and subtle at the same time. What has been scrolls before became more convenient books and in the digital age ADV/few lines format is actually much more common than NVL for media which utilizes "visual stimuli" (and even for reading web novels at least I zoom in quite lot, though vndb at 175% is unrelated, +I use page down)...
also just which NVLs utilize scrolling? Only this one? It sure is rather rare, I wonder why~
(aka something you execute separately and works on its own)let's banish the platform "Website" then, huh? Needless to say that is actually silly. Whether it is about RPG Maker games often needing the runtime package or that for a user an .exe is no different to a .pdf, rather just being another engine.
Also I'm pretty sure we only talk about the text here. The images don't scroll like that. They change at key points. Like in, you know, a completely normal NVL VN.Oh, that's now what defines VNs but alas doing that more neat transition is quite simple like BBC could just make the scroll snap like screamer pages do.
I mean think about it, you have two games that are exactly the same. But one you advance with scrolling, the other with enter. Why the heck would the first one not be a VN, but the latter would be fine?It is simple: The visual of the supposed visual novel is always completely covered, even NVLs which all tend to darken everything the visual is at least quite visible after a page break.
|#14 by fuukanou|
2018-07-13 at 18:25
|#12, the images on the BBC page do change at key points in parts. It's not like it's a bunch of pictures strung together vertically that are always scrolling. The background remains static over a range of scroll positions. It's only very slightly different from the game.|
Saying the EXE thing, so does that mean if someone packaged the webpage as a standalone EXE prepacked with a means to view it, then it does count as an visual novel?
Do the differences between an e-book and a visual novel stop only at the fact one has a picture in the background that occasionally changes?
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