|#1 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-16 at 20:54
|When the Aeka and the MC choke out Antoinette, that was the most romantic thing I've ever seen in a VN. Anyone feel the same or am I weird?|
|#2 by any13th|
2018-04-16 at 22:52
|A little bit of both|
|#3 by sakurakoi|
2018-04-17 at 00:44
|Nah, you are not weird.|
Just very far beyond that.
|#4 by encrypted12345|
2018-04-17 at 01:10
|Your opinion isn't wrong, though I'd say there are more romantic moments out there in the wide world of VNs.|
|#5 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-17 at 02:56
|#6 by loctar87|
2018-04-17 at 05:51
|That opinion is completely normal......if you're yandere.|
|#7 by bookwormotaku|
2018-04-17 at 06:25
|The couple that chokes a bitch together stays together XD|
|#8 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-17 at 06:43
|#7 knows whats good|
|#9 by tyr|
2018-04-17 at 12:50
|I don't know why people make fun of OP when he's completely right.|
|#10 by sakurakoi|
2018-04-17 at 13:25
|@Poe, maybe because it is common sense that violence contradicts romance? No violent action, even towards third parties and blood-thirsty hostiles, is ever seen as romantic. At best it is seen as necessary evil to protect the romance. The best romances do not employ any violence or any intentional physical harm whatsoever, the drama is caused+solved by many other means.|
|#11 by verdun|
2018-04-17 at 14:29
|Vanquishing a foe to rescue a lover is a time-tested romantic convention. Violence definitely has a place in romance. |
But in this case, the rescued lover turns around and joins her man so that together they can overcome the great evil threatening their love. I fail to see how that isn't romantic. Unconventional maybe, but totally romantic.
The best romances are ones in which the feeling is believable and seeing as to what lengths the partners are willing to support those feelings. Aeka and Kouhei are peaceful people who, when pushed against a wall, defy their nature so they can find happiness.Last modified on 2018-04-17 at 14:31
|#12 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-17 at 15:42
|@sakurakoi That is just simply not true. Even old folktales had violence that was required for lovers to be together.|
|#13 by cross|
2018-04-17 at 20:21
You have a strange view on romance...
|#14 by encrypted12345|
2018-04-17 at 20:25
|@13 Romance stories aren't just about being lovey dovey or people whispering sweet nothings in their lover's ear. Sometimes, expressions of love can be shown through violence, especially if the target of the violence really deserves it.|
|#15 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-17 at 20:56
|@9 You gotta broaden your view of romance.|
|#16 by cnkx|
2018-04-17 at 21:07
|Romance to me isn't a VN where you're able to fuck a mentally damaged bullied girl with no development whatsoever (clearly doing it as escapism) AFTER doing the student council girl. So I kinda stopped caring about any romance in this VN after that nukige like occurance. If anything it just made me lose respect for the MC and his lack of responsibility.|
|#17 by sakurakoi|
2018-04-17 at 22:15
and seeing as to what lengths the partners are willing to support those feelings [in terms of violence].
That opinion is completely normal......if you're yandere.
violence that was required
seen as necessary evil
again, just because violent actions are common, does not make them a convention nor what makes romance romantic.
also, please get this straw man outta here, please and thank you:
Romance stories aren't just about being lovey dovey or people whispering sweet nothings in their lover's ear.
Sometimes, expressions of love can be shown through violence, especially if the target of the violence really deserves it.Savagery... and oh, even if someone does not deserve violence in your opinion, that violent expression of love is "romantic"? Ridiculous.
|#18 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-17 at 22:33
|@17 I recommend you look up the definition of romance and love. |
Savagery... and oh, even if someone does not deserve violence in your opinion, that violent expression of love is "romantic"? Ridiculous. I don't know if you are intentionally misunderstanding that guys comment or you just didn't really think it through. Apply some common sense here. If you are finding an act of violence romantic, then of course it is deserved in your opinion.
|#19 by exaccuss|
2018-04-17 at 23:28
|If you are a masochist, then i suppose you could interpret violence as 'romantic', but even then that seems to be going a bit far lol. In the end, the definition of romance can differ from person to person regardless of how strange it might appear to other people.|
|#20 by encrypted12345|
2018-04-17 at 23:56
|@16 I don't remember being able to fuck a different girl on Aeka's route at all.|
|#21 by funnerific|
2018-04-18 at 00:14
|@20 AFAIK you can't, you can however fuck Aeka and go for someone else's route so there's that|
|#22 by cnkx|
2018-04-18 at 02:56
|You can do the girls without entering their routes. The h-scenes are terribly implemented without any romantic progression whatsoever. Aekas h-scene just consists of "I love you, let's fuck" before they're even a couple and the MC only spends like 5 mins with her total before it. Also ignoring her bullying. Then irresponsibly having sex with her after I chose to have sex with the student council girl (that h-scene was badly implemented too but at least with that choice I expected to enter HER route, little did I know that wasn't the case unlike literally every other VN and it turned out to be even worse).|
That's nukige level h-scene implementation if I've ever seen one to the point that I couldn't be bothered enough about what "emotional" thing comes next, hence me mentioning it in this thread.
What's more is that there's literally no downside to doing it, I guess if you decide to fuck the girl but not enter the route, the girl just forgets about you. A+ romance.Last modified on 2018-04-18 at 03:14
|#23 by namiultedjapan|
2018-04-18 at 03:22
|#24 by cnkx|
2018-04-18 at 03:34
|and 0/10 romance. But yes, real life is always ahead of everyone if they want half-assed relationships, that's why I'd rather have something better in my fiction. But either way, I think even the shittiest of IRL relationship has more development than those of this VN.|
|#25 by tyr|
2018-04-18 at 15:00
|Romance is not about violence, it's about taking actions. It just happens that violence is often part of "taking action".|
Telling someone you love her is not romantic. Telling is not taking action. (That's why every Moege and most Charage actually fail at that one thing they are supposed to be good at: romance.)
But proving your love by punching someone in the face who is an enemy of your romance is romantic. However, having a discussion with this enemy and politely ask him to not be an adversary to your romance is not romantic, but a surefire way to lose the affection of your girl if she notices what a pussy you are.
The point here is to take action, not weasel your way out.
Regarding this vn, it's not only taking action what makes the scene so romantic. It's the fact that you and your girl are doing it together. Regardless whether it's in fiction or real life, there is nothing better for the longevity of your relationship than overcoming a mutual enemy together.
By the way, that's literally the point of each route in this vn if you hadn't noticed that yet. lol
@15: Why are you criticizing me when I was literally saying that you are right?
@22: You have the choice to either stay at home or go to the student council girl. It's common VN sense to not go to the event with the girl you don't want to end up with.
You can go into every character route without having a hentai scene with someone else.
Also, the lack of romance in the beginning of the relationship with each girl is precisely the point of the story. That's why it's more satisfying, more engaging and .... more romantic when they do learn to love each other in the end. Again, that is the point of the story.Last modified on 2018-04-18 at 15:01
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