Kickstarter for Venus Blood Frontier

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#76 by encrypted12345
2018-05-31 at 16:33
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More info about the KS. Basically prefundia is up on June 26 and the KS will have a gameplay demo. Also, they are selling on JAST with JAST giving out the steam patch. Lastly, no mosaics. It's nice that JAST managed to convince them to do it.
#77 by sanahtlig
2018-05-31 at 16:55
For the native Chinese here: How is the Chinese fan translation? Is it good quality, or is it just an edited machine translation?
#78 by phantomjs
2018-05-31 at 17:08
@sanahtlig

Browsed through a small opening portion of the CN patch for u. It is definitely NOT a MTL-like release. I think it should be indicative of the entire VN.

Anyway, the TL group's (心愿屋汉化组) other releases are very good as well as far as I know. I don't think they will ever release a MTL-like release (actually, I had never read a MTL-like CN release so far)Last modified on 2018-05-31 at 17:11
#79 by sanahtlig
2018-05-31 at 17:47
That's interesting. A Chinese-language release could be a possibility then. Would depend on whether this group could be reasoned with and Ninetail's flexibility.Last modified on 2018-05-31 at 18:02
#80 by alexlung
2018-05-31 at 21:38
Did they express interest in doing a CN release as well?

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translation wise, it was fine. I've played it and finished it years ago, all h scenes were translated, however, there were a few tooltips that wasn't translated but it's very minor.

It was ridiculous how they demand 72$ for Venus Blood Empire when it's so old. their reason was like, the project lacked the funds etc.

They are literally known as Blackhouse in the community though and many would not be happy if they work with Official partners since they took their games, claim it as their own and sell it. I mean they are selling Venus Blood Empire as of now, would Ninetails even want to work with them? I am pretty sure they would take up the offer if Ninetails decides to work with them, they are greedy and always lust for money

also really good to hear Ninetails are working with JAST USA, I really hope they can help him out. it was kinda funny how Mangagamer actually responded to the twitter and asked if they are interested, oh well they picked JAST which is great too
#81 by sanahtlig
2018-06-01 at 02:04
If the Chinese want to buy Frontier, might as well give them a legitimate means to do so. Figuring out how to deal with racketeers without rewarding bad behavior would be the tricky part. I'll relay the suggestion to Ninetail and see if there's interest. No guarantees, obviously.Last modified on 2018-06-01 at 02:06
#82 by faytalburn
2018-06-01 at 08:07
Well, it's not so much that Jast convinced them, more so the responses from the fans collected and sent to their director.
Still, great news.

Also I believe that while they are interested in a CN release, they would never work with copyright infringing scum.

There is a limit to what you may call flexibility, after all.Last modified on 2018-06-01 at 08:09
#83 by encrypted12345
2018-06-27 at 04:44
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The base game is $30, and the early bird for that is $25. The base goal is $125k with some stretch goals already planned every extra $25k.
#84 by hiecchi
2018-06-27 at 18:01
Anyone knows if the 18+ patch is free?
Otherwise i will buy the jast usa vers. x_x
#85 by sanahtlig
2018-06-27 at 23:26
The 18+ patch will be free for download from JAST USA.
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#86 by izalith
2018-06-30 at 14:16
This novel looks intriguing.
Is the rape avoidable in this game, by going through the law routes etc.? Don't really like playing a villanous protoganist, but the gameplay seems neat.
#87 by sanahtlig
2018-06-30 at 14:38
The rape is mostly avoidable, but not entirely--to the victor go the spoils. But you can play the Steam version and that'll probably have all the icky parts removed for you.
#88 by izalith
2018-06-30 at 14:43
No, I have no interest in playing a censored version.
Does Loki rape all five heroines after winning? Or is it more of a consensual thing?
#89 by sanahtlig
2018-06-30 at 15:29
The heroines join the team pretty soon after their defeat, and that is mostly voluntary. They see Loki as the lesser evil.
#90 by alexlung
2018-06-30 at 19:31
#83
The base game is $30, and the early bird for that is $25. The base goal is $125k with some stretch goals already planned every extra $25k.
That's pretty good, the goal should succeed if not easily. $30 sounds pretty reasonable

The 18+ patch will be free for download from JAST USA.
Fricking nice

#86 If I recall correctly, it depends on the route you choose, where you can break them or treat them differently
#91 by then00bavenger
2018-06-30 at 21:18
You could play in a way that minimizes rape scenes but IIRC there's one mandatory scene that plays when they first join.

Also playing in that way means you wouldn't see any of the corrupted forms which is half the fun. Not unsurprisingly, a lot of the heroines are actually emotionally closer to Loki in their corrupted forms than their non corrupted forms and for the most part almost all the consensual scenes with the main heroines are in their corrupt forms.

They do technically offer a special event for keeping them uncorrupted but even that would be difficult to reach without seeing any of the rape scenes at all because there's a 3 affection point requirement for that scene and that might be difficult to reach without seeing at least some of the scenes that come from triggering h-scenes.

IIRC Hypno kind of avoided this by making an exclusive branch of uncorrupted scenes that you couldn't see if you go the corrupted route in order to balance this out. Unfortunately in Frontier, they didn't really do that yet so if you choose not to corrupt the goddesses it's basically just like only seeing half their scenes and stopping.

In addition, recruiting units is done by unlocking new types of medallions and these medallions are mostly unlocked by your chaos/law values. If you don't corrupt the goddesses or trigger h-scenes then you'll miss out on all the character scenes and choices relating to that which also means missing out on a lot of potential Law/Chaos points. You'd be neutering your gameplay experience to an extent since you won't be able to unlock the high tier medallions and thus won't have access to the high tier units.

I mean I guess you could still play it but I wouldn't really recommend playing that way. It would be better to just put on the skip h-scene option if that stuff bothers you. You don't have to play a censored version, even the original game has the option to skip h-scenes specifically.Last modified on 2018-06-30 at 21:56
#92 by izalith
2018-07-01 at 06:19
The problem with skipping scene is that you're just basically ignoring what happened & a lot of context just gets skipped by doing so.

Haruka kind of sucked because of that, the rape scene happened in the story and totally unavoidable.

That, and I find heroine being attracted after raping them seems silly. H-Scene are fine but scoundrel protoganists are not really my cup of tea. Which is why I never liked the Rance series.
#93 by rusanon
2018-07-01 at 09:05
That, and I find heroine being attracted after raping them seems silly
I Cheated on My Boyfriend with My Rapist
I Voluntarily Slept With My Rapist Years After Being Raped
Consenting In Hindsight: Why I Continued to Sleep With My Rapist

Had sex with rapist after he raped me


This is well-known phenomena, you can find thousands of cases when IRL women admit they are attracted to their rapists and want to engage in consensual sex with them.Last modified on 2018-07-01 at 09:05
#94 by sanahtlig
2018-07-01 at 17:14
Not unsurprisingly, a lot of the heroines are actually emotionally closer to Loki in their corrupted forms than their non corrupted forms and for the most part almost all the consensual scenes with the main heroines are in their corrupt forms.
One way of looking at it is that the corrupted vs. non-corrupted path is a choice between whether you want to see a lot of sexual content or not.

Also, if you want to unlock each heroine's title (which gives a choice between 4 or so sets of powerful passives), you have to play without corrupting them. But yes, this does restrict your access to powerful units. By default, the incentive is to corrupt.
#95 by ramaladni
2018-07-01 at 18:53
@93 That's also known as Stockholm Syndrome. Thought it was common knowledge so I wonder what's really so strange about it.

However, Loki seems to be far from a scoundrel. He has an ambition that he fervently pursues and your choices are usually at the cost of something else, from what I could gather.

Personally, I think the $30 base price is a steal, the game offers tons of replayability and over 50 hours of content. Can't wait.
#96 by then00bavenger
2018-07-01 at 19:22
Yeah, all the VB protagonists are generally asshole anti-heroes but I don't think I'd describe any of them as scoundrels. The word scoundrel conjures up the image of a base scumbag who would be raping for the fun of it which is not what VB protags are about(not to say they won't enjoy doing what they gotta do). Even when they're portrayed initially as "selfishly trying to accomplish their own ambitions" you almost always find out along the way that there's a bit more to it than that.

I mean I don't think their motivations are going to matter much if you don't like what they're doing regardless but they're not really comparable to Rance. Rance is like... if you took an innocent 5 year child but somehow gave him a huge lust for women and glory and made him apathetic to everything else lol. That's a very unique type of protagonist that's hard to relate to for a lot of people.

VB protagonists are more down to earth with understandable ambitions and motivations. They still operate with logic and in some cases even sympathy. They just have other things they need to prioritize.Last modified on 2018-07-01 at 19:37
#97 by sanahtlig
2018-07-03 at 03:35
There's been quite a bit of activity in the Prefundia comments section over the past 24hrs. Everyone interested should check it out and upvote deserving comments.

The biggest new development is that Ninetail is hiring a JAST editor.Last modified on 2018-07-03 at 03:36
#98 by eacil
2018-07-03 at 05:18
The intro of this prefundia is so awkward. And no space before or after brackets really looks like amateur work.

(Fucking third party crap used for commenting. Impossible to log-in when you use Firefox First-Party Isolation (and disabling it kicked me out of vndb while I was writing this). Of course, email verification didn't reach my tutanota account... so instead I verified a temp email. My votes disappeared. I need to breath, I need to breath.)

I agree with you Sanathligh but I think you are delusional with your requests. A "sample of their unedited work", really? About the demo, they already released one. Did you review it?
#99 by sanahtlig
2018-07-03 at 13:34
Thanks for going to such trouble to provide feedback.

I think my comment imposes a reasonable standard of transparency. As for the ADV demo, I haven't played it yet. I wanted to give Ninetail a chance to put their best foot forward (respond to feedback) first. So far, they're picking up an editor, so I'll take a look once he's done his work.

However, you can view my assessment of the initial Prefundia here.
#100 by sanahtlig
2018-07-06 at 12:56
Next round of Prefundia official replies have arrived.
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I agree with you Sanahtlig but I think you are delusional with your requests.
As for you Eacil, I have a sock for you to eat.
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