Mangagamer's Licensing Odds With This Title
|#1 by jiiviinovels|
2018-05-15 at 08:06
|Seeing as Mangagamer released a Licensing Survey for 2018 and that this interesting title appeared on there, I was curious on what the odds are on it actually being licensed and become translated and released by them.|
|#2 by encrypted12345|
2018-05-15 at 16:21
|VN negotiations aren't exactly fast, so it'll be a 2019 announcement at the very soonest. I heard rumors that Lune was interested, but you never really know.|
|#3 by eroyama|
2018-05-15 at 17:51
|Lune's official twitter actually commented when Mangagamer released their survey results. It's not exactly confirmed, but this look promising.|
|#4 by alexlung|
2018-05-15 at 18:05
|That's nice thanks for the link|
|#5 by kratoscar2008|
2018-05-15 at 21:08
|Chances looks pretty good. The OVAs were somewhat popular and MG translated a game entirely based on an OVA series popularity. Then there is the poll results and finally there is the game itself popularity (Just this year we got like 3 vanilla dark elf games, thats three more than what we got in nearly 2 decades and now ClockUp hired a notable artist for an impregnation fantasy harem game, which of course its because of Sukebe Elf if we take in account that circle offerings up to that game. Sukebe Elf was just so damm popular)|
Now for the Lune side they recently launched a mobage of their own and in their blogpost they mentioning struggling in the current portable market and #3 twitter post is relevant since i remember Luneman always telling "Japan only product" when someone twitted him in english so their PR changed too. The main problem i see is wether they will get to a good deal to release their other games since they are more rapey in nature but MG has translated far more hardcore stuff so thats probably a non-issue. So i give it a good chance, Aku no Onna Kanbu is popular too i think so i can see MG wanting a partnership with them for Sukebe Elf, Aku no Onna and probably their Saimin series at least. There is hope.
|#6 by jiiviinovels|
2018-05-16 at 07:40
|Thank you everyone for your clarifications on this matter.|
|#7 by [deleted]|
2018-09-25 at 06:48
|#8 by pendelhaven|
2018-09-25 at 07:02
|uhh, someone needs to tell them that MG is not sakuragame|
|#9 by eacil|
2018-09-25 at 17:15
|"We want to make money out of westerners (i.e. put it on steam) asap and without investing a single yen (i.e. we have no will to take the necessary time and effort to do it)."|
This is more than concerning, this is the kind of mindset which ends up in the hands of sakuragame. The only difference is it will be in-house. The guy don't give a fuck about quality. XD XD
What I see is checkerpeck complimenting the PR on his english and saying that level of english + good editing should be enough when the PR was actually using MT so it gave the wrong impression to the PR that MT was ok, which is what they are planning anyway ("but youth words and slang are still difficult" > smells like edited MT).Last modified on 2018-09-25 at 17:16
|#10 by eltonan|
2018-09-25 at 22:41
|If Lune decided to prioritise short term gain over a proper English translation, it could tank what little interest/reputation/respect they have in western market. Ultimately this will be a case of them making their bed and have to lie in it.|
I hope this doesn't end up being the case since there are a fair amount of people interested in their past titles.Last modified on 2018-09-25 at 22:42
|#11 by [deleted]|
2018-09-25 at 22:57
|#7 Yeah, I can't understand that tweet. I'm not fluent in Engrish.|
What worries me the most is the "Steam deployment" comment. I still believe that Valve wouldn't allow a title like this one on their service without severe censorship, and the last thing we need is more all-ages nukige.
A lot of Japanese companies seem to have this misguided idea that "Steam deployment" is somehow going to significantly increase sales, but I'd wager that most people interested in titles like "Aoi Nagisa's Elf Impregnation Simulator" are probably going to be frequenting MangaGamer or JAST's websites a lot more than Steam. You're not going to make the next Nekopara or DDLC; you don't have the advantages that those titles have. Just stick with the core audience and don't try winning over a bunch of memelords with Monika dakimakuras.
|#12 by warfoki|
2018-09-25 at 23:00
|I mean, I remember seeing a Norn nukige of all fucking things on Steam... without the hentai content. I'm like, what even remained in there without the obligatory adult patch?|
|#13 by [deleted]|
2018-09-25 at 23:05
|#12 The Wild Romance and Tsundere Idol releases immediately came to mind. Say what you want about Sekai, they know where to keep their nukige. Most of the time. |
Okay, some of the time.Last modified on 2018-09-25 at 23:05
|#14 by kratoscar2008|
2018-09-26 at 01:09
|I honestly wouldnt mind an all ages version of Sukebe Elf if they add new nonlewd CGs. My favorite parts of the game were the dialogues and Slice of life stuff so i wouldnt mind some all ages CGs (Like Evelyn cooking for you or Delva clumsily trying to wash your clothes).|
|#15 by [deleted]|
2018-09-26 at 01:17
|#14 It's not quite as bad as the all-ages Norn titles in that respect, but the main appeal for most people is probably going to be the ero. It wouldn't be awful, necessarily; it's just that putting this game on Steam screams out either Sekai or SakuraGame, and there's no way in hell either of those are going to ask for extra all-ages CGs or the like. But if they license it out to MG/JAST and the one condition is that they absolutely need a Steam release, it wouldn't be too bad.|
|#16 by eacil|
2018-09-26 at 02:25
A lot of Japanese companies seem to have this misguided idea that "Steam deployment" is somehow going to significantly increase sales, but I'd wager that most people interested in titles like "Aoi Nagisa's Elf Impregnation Simulator" are probably going to be frequenting MangaGamer or JAST's websites a lot more than Steam. You're not going to make the next Nekopara or DDLC; you don't have the advantages that those titles have. Just stick with the core audience and don't try winning over a bunch of memelords with Monika dakimakuras.We are talking about vanilla with elves drawn by Aoi Nagisa. I don't see how it could fail on Steam. To me, it's an instant success. Even with a MT.
Eh, guess what, Lune answered me.
Exactly. Since we do not want to rely on machine translation, we are looking for a competent translation site, but popular sites are full of reservations until two years ahead. . .X(
|#17 by jikorde|
2018-09-26 at 03:15
|Does that mean they checked with MG and Jast and such and all the companies are busy for the next two years? That's impressive I guess but if that is why so many are turning to Sakuraagame is also horrible.|
|#18 by [deleted]|
2018-09-26 at 03:31
We are talking about vanilla with elves drawn by Aoi Nagisa. I don't see how it could fail on Steam. To me, it's an instant success. Even with a MT.
I don't know how many (English-speaking) people know about Aoi Nagisa outside of eroge fans and possibly some hardcore hentai/doujin readers. I suppose it might draw in a few sales from that crowd, though I'd think that they'd probably buy it from MG or JAST as well. SakuraGame releases consistently bring in sales because of shady sales tactics, low prices, and the Chinese, of course, but I can't imagine that the developer would profit any more off of a SG release than from an MG one.
Does that mean they checked with MG and Jast and such and all the companies are busy for the next two years?
I somehow doubt that. JAST takes at least two years to finish any project, of course, and MG does have a lot on their plate, but I doubt that either of them would turn it down outright. The use of "site" in particular strikes me as a little odd as well. I have the feeling they're doing something wrong, but I have no idea what.
|#19 by eacil|
2018-09-26 at 04:00
|It's not about knowing the guy but the fact that it looks really really good. It's not for nothing that it ranked so well in the MG survey even though it's a stand-alone nukige with no gameplay element. It reached such result based only on appearance and fetishes.|
|#20 by bakauchuujin|
2018-09-26 at 05:06
|If we assume Jast and MG are busy for the next two years and don't want to add new titles I think it isn't too far fetched that they might have a problem finding a good company. SP I think only announced Karakara 3 last AWA which could mean that they are slowing down their licensing speed, which I think is good since they already stretch themselves too thin and it effects their quality control. Nekonyan said something in their forum about having used all their money so far to get licenses so I doubt they would have the money before another release or two. Sol Press I am pretty sure just don't do nukige. Frontwing I am not sure about, but maybe they hesitate because they mainly use steam and don't want to do a nukige on steam or maybe they have their hands full at the moment.Last modified on 2018-09-26 at 05:06|
|#21 by zimbobwa1|
2018-09-26 at 05:59
|Well eacil, you may have connected Lune and MG, but I'm surprised they haven't already approached each other? Those tweets confuse me.|
|#22 by [deleted]|
2018-09-26 at 06:27
I'm not worried anymore.
|#23 by eltonan|
2018-09-26 at 06:43
|Looks like there's hope after all.|
|#24 by encrypted12345|
2018-09-26 at 07:02
|#25 by bookwormotaku|
2018-09-26 at 08:33
|Looks like the start of a beautiful freindship XD|
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