Please revive Djibril!

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#1 by rpgmaniac
2018-09-04 at 22:29
Sengoku may have been a mistake that shouldn't have happened, but I'm sure they can still make a game as amazing as the first 4 Djibril games.
#2 by encrypted12345
2018-09-04 at 22:56
Nah, they sold their soul to Gaben. Now they are doomed to forevermore make all ages games.
#3 by bobopop
2018-09-04 at 22:58
lmao there's too many VNs that have unnecessary sex scenes. I'm all for all ages version because I'm there for the plot ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
#4 by eltonan
2018-09-04 at 23:56
What happened with Frontwing has always been interesting IMO. From my understanding Djibril was their first big hit (a game which won multiple awards and really put their name on the map) but tone-wise the game was practically a nukige. Naturally Frontwing made various sequels and spin-offs (Megachu) to try and capitalise on its success.

This continued until 2011 with the release of Grisaia no Kajitsu which somehow managed to gain mass popularity with Western audiences. Of course this meant sequels, spin-off (Phantom Trigger) and even anime adaptions. But with this came a shift in tone, Grisaia was more of a charage/plotage than it was H-scenes so all ages versions were the most optimal way to market it. In a way it makes a lot of sense, companies have to pursue whatever course of action is most profitable and the niche nature of eroge makes it hard to market to wider audiences.

The Grisaia series now days resembles the Fate series, both wants it audience to forget that it was ever an eroge to begin with.

In addition due to the interest of Western audiences Frontwing also took up localising most of their games which came after Grisaia. IMO Frontwing exists as a case study of how the success of one game can completely change the course (and tone) of an entire company.
#5 by toru-ben
2018-09-05 at 01:44
>I'm here for the plot

People that can't appreciate sex scenes are just too immature to talk about sex in general.
As if a story told through sex couldn't be appealing nor tell a story.
#6 by fuukanou
2018-09-05 at 02:50
#5 honestly I end up reading all the H-scenes but honestly if it takes me about an hour to read an H-scene which often is unrelated to the plot (I have no qualms if I can see some relation or it's one I really enjoy for whatever reason) I feel could have better been used up with another hour of plot in my play session.
In that respect... maybe I can see the value in all-ages, but I'd rather have the flexibility of having the h-scenes just in case they're valuable rather than taking the risk of throwing the baby out with the bath water that often comes with an all-ages port tossing away all the H without context (iirc this was a problem in Sachi's route in Grisaia)Last modified on 2018-09-05 at 02:51
#7 by eltonan
2018-09-05 at 03:59
Having an all-ages Djibril makes no sense. The problem with Djibril is that it's key concept is basically Mahou Shoujo (or in this case, angels) who get their powers via sex. It's basically a set up for a nukige.

Theme-wise, Djibril has more in common Alicesoft's Choukou Tensei/Sennin/Shinki series or Lusterise's Kouyoku Senki ExS-Tia series (except without any gameplay).

If Frontwing wants to transition to an for all-ages visual novel company then it's probably in their best interest to ditch anything associated with Djibril. Of course that would suck for fans as Djibril is probably one for the more interesting franchises out there.Last modified on 2018-09-05 at 08:30
#8 by anonymous
2018-09-05 at 04:26
#7 This is the same company that made an all-ages version of motherfucking Subahibi. I have no doubt that, if they released Djibril in English, they would put it on Steam.
#9 by lordnight
2018-09-05 at 05:16
There's always the 18+ patch
#10 by dk382
2018-09-05 at 07:38
Nah, they sold their soul to Gaben. Now they are doomed to forevermore make all ages games.
uh. Loca Love

#7 This is the same company that made an all-ages version of motherfucking Subahibi.

The "all-ages" version of subahibi was just the first chapter of the game with no content cut out and only one or two CGs modified. You make it sound like they butchered the whole game but that is not at all the case.

Honestly I have seen nothing that indicates that FW wants to transition to all-ages only and I think some of y'all are freaking out over nothing.
#11 by anonymous
2018-09-05 at 15:59
#10 I think it’s a bit overblown too. Releasing Subahibi on Steam was a grade-A stupid move, and their release of Himawari did have the ero removed, but I doubt that they’ll stop making eroge entirely
#12 by kiru
2018-09-05 at 16:43
^
Himawari is neither published by Frontwing here, nor is there anything removed. It's a PC port of a Vita game. Guess how much adult content a Vita game has? Right. Nothing.
#13 by anonymous
2018-09-05 at 16:50
#12 Himawari was originally released as a doujin game with 18+ content, and then Frontwing remade it for Vita and PC. They could have put ero in it, but they didn't.

And they did publish it. They didn't localize it, but they did both develop and publish it.
#14 by dk382
2018-09-11 at 03:46
#12 Himawari was originally released as a doujin game with 18+ content, and then Frontwing remade it for Vita and PC. They could have put ero in it, but they didn't.

And they did publish it. They didn't localize it, but they did both develop and publish it.
Even though the original writer specifically wanted the ero to be removed, because he only added it in the first place out of a sense of obligation and never liked it?
#15 by anonymous
2018-09-11 at 04:12
Even though the original writer specifically wanted the ero to be removed, because he only added it in the first place out of a sense of obligation and never liked it?
Yes, I understand that. That isn't the point I was trying to make.
I understand that Frontwing has made some steps towards becoming an "all-ages" company with Himawari, Island, Grisaia, and their various projects made for Steam, but they're not going to stop making eroge anytime soon, and I think that, if there was a suitable audience, they'd release the Djibril series in English. Note the suitable audience part.

I can't forsee Djibril being licensed anytime in the future. With the exception of Lilitales, Frontwing International has been localizing almost exclusively plot-based VNs and Grisaia. Momoiro Closet is a bit of an outlier, but it didn't sell too well (probably because of the ridiculous price point) and we have yet to see how Loca Love will pan out. Either way, it would be a humongous risk to localize Djibril, considering how vastly different it is from anything they've published before and how little name recognition it has in the Western market. It's also ancient and probably wouldn't run out of the box on modern hardware; so Frontwing's hacking team (that can't even properly crack Kirikiri, mind) would have a nervous breakdown trying to port it to Windows 10. Your only real hope for ever seeing an English release of Djibril is to pray for an HD remaster and another partnership with MangaGamer.Last modified on 2018-09-11 at 04:13
#16 by sakurakoi
2018-09-11 at 04:17
Even though the original writer specifically wanted the ero to be removed, because he only added it in the first place out of a sense of obligation and never liked it?
My humble advise then: They should turn their head 90° vertically down lest they'll "accidentally" find themselves running off a cliff.

Of course I ain't gonna mention their awesome amount of works after over 11 years but welp, very many like such ultra drama after all, regardless of well it is actually written (or well, not)~
#17 by eltonan
2018-09-11 at 05:27
@15 How well does Djibril run on Windows 10 btw?

In fact does anyone know what the oldest game Frontwing has released which still works on Windows 10?

My only point of knowledge is I heard someone got Megachu running on Windows 10 but that was released in 2006. So 12 years or less I guess?Last modified on 2018-09-11 at 05:30
#18 by rpgmaniac
2020-05-11 at 23:24
Ironically Djibril has been revived with an official 6th entry, but it's a browser gacha game completely gutted of the spirit of the Djibril series. Nothing but a couple bland vanilla scenes with the protagonist for each girl. I wanted it to come back, but this just isn't Djibril anymore. The Frontwing I loved really is dead. At least the intro was as good as ever...

Intro: linkLast modified on 2020-05-12 at 13:16

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