|#1 by kominara|
2018-09-29 at 15:50
|Note: This is not meant to be a review. It's simply meant to address problems readers might have with the game.|
This game's score has been dropping like a rock since the English release. In like half a month, the score dropped from 7.9 to 7.8. Sure, that doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, but I imagine the score will drop more, especially if no one says anything about it.
Now, some of these votes are obviously trolls. I'm not going to go into any detail on those; I'll just say that if this game is really a 1/10 to you, you're fucking delusional. This is more meant for people either currently playing the game or who plan on playing the game in the future.
First things first; BF is old. Really old, by eroge standards. And unlike other old VNs (Ever17, Saya no Uta, Tsukihime) or "kamige" (MLA, Umineko, SubaHibi), Baldr Force never had the sort of legendary status among VN fans, and it didn't attract nearly as much hype in the English-speaking community. Sure, BF has a score of 90 on EGS, which is the around the same as Ever17, SubaHibi, and Fate (and is actually a good deal higher than Tsukihime, Saya no Uta, or any of the episodes of Umineko), but that hasn't translated into Western popularity very well, and I believe that led to a lot of readers being unwilling to give Force a fair shake.
To put it quite simply, Baldr Force's opening sucks. There's a decent prologue, followed by the FLAK routes, which take up the first third of the game. You need to sit through 5 chapters that add practically nothing to the story, followed by two routes that have a shitton of CTRL-C CTRL-V writing, not to mention that no context is given for anything and you don't know anything about what's going on. Sure, that's the point, but it doesn't make it any less painful to read, and I suspect a lot of people just gave up on the game here. I'll tell you this right now; you might want to skip past a lot of these routes, especially during the second one you do. There's very little actually important in them, and the very little that is important gets brought up at least 3 times in future routes, so, if you aren't enjoying yourself, I recommend skimming past them.
Point is, read through them so you can move on to Ryang's route (official romanizations are a bitch, aren't they?). Even if you hated the FLAK routes with a fiery passion, I still recommend you at least give this chapter a shot. Without spoiling anything, it significantly enriches your view of the game's world, along with the requisite mind-blowing sci-fi plot twists and awesome action scenes. Reading this single route took BF from just being good to being amazing, in my opinion, and I honestly think that, until you've played it, you haven't truly played Force. It's really a shame that it's locked behind 20 hours of mediocrity.
|#2 by warfoki|
2018-09-29 at 16:35
|I know absolutely fuck all about the Baldr series, but this "warning" REALLY reminds me of Ever 17, where you get the same explanations and set up over and over, the individual routes are decidedly meh at best (with like one exception) until like their last 10 minutes, but that final route is just fucking mindblowing and makes you forget how, quite frankly, mediocre was the first half (or more) of the entire VN. Like I gave it an 8, and overall liked it, but the only reason I haven't dropped it halfway through out boredom was the hype about it. I was like, "there's gotta be more to this with everyone recommending it left, right and center".Last modified on 2018-09-29 at 16:35|
|#3 by kominara|
2018-09-29 at 16:45
|#2 Force is a bit better about it than Ever17, since there's less SoL and there's two or three Coco routes instead of just one, but the comparison is apt. And, like I said before, I think someone needs to say this about BF, because it isn't nearly as hyped as other VNs with the same problem, and a lot of people are probably going to drop it before completing the first two routes and give it a 5 or a 6 because the writer decided to frontload all the bad parts.Last modified on 2018-09-29 at 16:46|
|#4 by tyrog|
2018-09-29 at 19:11
|Sky 1 and 2 have their fair share of issues, as well. I found that the first game, in particular, suffers from the opposite problem to what you describe: it is excellent early on, but does not get better as you go along, and arguably gets worse — in my experience at least. Of course, the series as a whole has plenty going for it, but none of the individual games is an immortal masterpiece, despite the claims of some people.Last modified on 2018-09-29 at 19:28|
|#5 by kiru|
2018-09-29 at 19:33
|So, this does the same thing like ever17, but better? Then it should get a high rating, if it's good, right?|
Also a minor drop like that is nothing. You should rather compare the bayesian rating, as that gets more relevant with the current amount of votes.
|#6 by kominara|
2018-09-29 at 20:18
|#5 I said that the way in which it is set up is better than Ever17, not that it was necessarily better overall. While Ever17 is only good during the route endings and Coco's route, Baldr Force manages to be consistently good throughout the second half. |
Ever17 is also, as I noted several times, extremely popular, and a lot of people will want to play through it all the way despite the slow start. Baldr Force, on the other hand, is relatively obscure to the English-speaking VN community at large, and I think that a lot of people will drop it without putting in the same time investment as, say, Muv-Luv or Ever17. That's the problem I'm trying to address.
|#7 by behappyeveryday|
2019-03-12 at 18:00
|I personally think what lower scores are mostly because of ntr and rape content. There isn't a lot of translated games which have heroines raped. I know what some people just hate anything ntr related. |
I personally liked Ayane's route and I'm not sure about you considering later routes as MUCH better. The main problem though is what, like you said, it have "three Coco routes". This game, similarly to Baldr Sky, have very good routes, but so called True Route isn't much better than other heroines. After reading heroine's routes you expect what True would be even more amazing, but instead it is on similar level.
@4 I could agree with you, for example Rain's bad ending in Baldr Sky was one of the best in the game and overall first playthrough was most unique experience.Last modified on 2019-03-12 at 18:00
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