Could otome games help to better understand women?

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Could otome games help to better understand women?

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#101 by kykekrusher55
2018-12-07 at 07:28
Absolutely not
It's borderline dangerous actually. It spoils you with your wildest fantasies when it comes to women, while not requiring any effort from you to be better as a man. I try to stay away from "dating sims" and go for other visual novels as well, but I've played a few and I must say I actually really like Grisaia.
Understanding women can be done through learning behavioural psychology, biology, history, and going on a LOT of dates. Even if women have certain traits that make them similar to each other, women are as different from each other as men are from each other.
#102 by bobjr2000
2018-12-07 at 16:43
Might also add people are not static men and women. What you might have liked at one time you might despise or feel nothing now.
#103 by behappyeveryday
2018-12-19 at 05:15
@100 Thanks, it was really interesting post, lol. It basically answered my question. Also it is fun to see what 70% of voters prefer to have at least one female love interest in the game. Another proof of women being mostly bisexual.

@101 It seems to me you misunderstood the question. Otome games are games for women, not date sims. It is obvious what you can't understand women from games what designed to please men.

When you compare heroines from games and real world women then you could see what all this "effort from you to be better as a man" isn't really worth it. Anyone who dated real world woman and played in romance based visual novels could know how much the difference is. It doesn't mean what you shouldn't pursue women, it just means what you shouldn't overvalue them. Instead find a woman who could accept you for who you are.

Also it is really funny to read this "women are as different from each other as men are from each other", considering what just being a hot looking girl is enough to make 80% guys interested in you. Most guys don't even have much of a choice to be choosy, so for them if a girl is above average in looks and interested in them then it is automatically makes them lose their head and start to think what she is special. Even if she have bad personality and fucked 20+ other men.Last modified on 2018-12-19 at 05:25
#104 by butterflygrrl
2018-12-19 at 11:34
>considering what just being a hot looking girl is enough to make 80% guys interested in you.

Yeah, and being a hot-looking guy will get most girls interested in you too. Surprisingly enough, being attractive tends to make people attracted to you.

But most women don't fall into your super hot ideas, and most women don't have guys falling at their feet all the time, just like most guys don't have a horde of cuties all desperately trying to land him.Last modified on 2018-12-19 at 11:37
#105 by komocakeps
2018-12-19 at 14:43
oh, do we have an actual girl in this thread?

1. what makes you attracted to a guy?
2. what is the borderline between aggressiveness and outright harassment?
3. what to do so that we don't get reported to the police for sexual harassment?
4. is the juice worth the squeeze?
#106 by behappyeveryday
2018-12-22 at 11:11
@104 This isn't exactly a truth.

Being hot guy would make girls interested in you, but most of them still will reject you when you try to make things closer to sex. Believe me - average girl with average looks (about 70% of all girls) would have it easier to find someone than hot looking guy (about 10-15% of guys). It was proven with social media and Tinder related researches, you could check it yourself by making fake accounts. For a guy it is enough if he likes girl's looks, we could know what we want (and willing) to have sex with you just by a glance.

But even if average girl like a guy and attracted to him physically she still often rejects him for bunch of other reasons. Main difference is what most girls are not fine with "just sex" if there is no chance for serious relationships and to know if you want relationship with a person isn't exactly easy and there a lot of factors involved. Also it is unavoidable what for the most part it is expected what guys should pursue girls. So even if a girl likes someone it is rare for her to make active actions.

I personally know some "hot guys" who struggle to get any girls at all. Mostly they are too shy to take initiative and they can't be confident and be a leader. You could object what "hot girls could be single too", but it is only because they assume what guys who pursue them "below their league" or "don't have chemistry with them" and just reject everyone.Last modified on 2018-12-22 at 13:11
#107 by bunnyadvocate
2018-12-22 at 18:57
You could object what "hot girls could be single too", but it is only because they assume what guys who pursue them "below their league" or "don't have chemistry with them" and just reject everyone.

@106 Ignoring any potential issues with the accuracy of that, I just want to add that rejecting people isn't easy.

How do you feel when someone bigger and stronger than you comes up to you and asks you for some change? How about when they refuse to accept "no" and keep pushing and saying you're just playing coy? How about when they say they know you have change and demand a chance to tell you their sob story and get offended if you refuse?

This isn't just something that happens when you walk down the street, it happens at work, when you're shopping for groceries, whenever you go to a party, or just trying to hang out with your friends. How much would you enjoy a party where a bunch of homeless dudes surrounded you asking for change?Last modified on 2018-12-22 at 19:01
#108 by komocakeps
2018-12-23 at 01:24
link

(let's see how many normies gonna REEEEEE on this one)
#109 by bobjr2000
2018-12-23 at 04:07
Use to to think it was weird how posters on here used word normies which assuming is intend to be insult to others. But with some posters on here starting to think maybe its a good thing they don't think their way of thinking is consider the norm of society.
#110 by behappyeveryday
2018-12-23 at 05:05
@107 It seems to me what you never was in a night club or on a dating site. Women in clubs reject guys all the time, it is their main way of entertainment in a sense. It is enjoyable to be able treat "someone bigger and stronger than you" as if they are inferior species who are unworthy of you while they could only swallow any humiliation you put on them. It is painful to see average guy in nightclub or bar.

Metaphors don't work in completely different situations, you see. Your analogy doesn't work at all.

If you want to make it better than you could change it to being pursued by women (who also much stronger than you because they know some martial arts), but surprisingly we even have such novels like MajiKoi where strong women pursue MC, or we have Monster Girl Quest, which a lot (actually majority of those who played it) of guys enjoy, don't forget what this is a game based on reverse rape, you see.

When you tell "someone bigger and stronger" you also forget what they are your potential mate and the thing they offer to you is mutually enjoyable, in fact women enjoy process of the sex more than men (at least science say so). And your attempt to compare average males to homeless people doesn't help at all. In most cases girls reject guys of same social standing and similar level of attractiveness. I don't whine or anything, those are just our roles. And they also could be reversed, for example some guys could make girls pursue them, but it is exception and not a rule.Last modified on 2018-12-23 at 05:15

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