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#1 by justinizhere
2011-01-17 at 13:48
< report >is the gameplay element improved over v74? that was my only gripe with it. I loved the story but the moving around the map made me want to remove the damn thing more than once.

as time goes on im wanting for the translation more and more.
#2 by pendelhaven
2011-01-17 at 14:15
< report >oh god. thank you for reminding me how that particular TL team photoshopped 2.5k images.

so yeah, i think that if this title would be picked up for translation, then we're talking of another 2.5k images to photoshop.

I'd say they're quite tired of it already. Am i right, echomateria?
#3 by hikigane
2011-01-17 at 14:21
< report >
then we're talking of another 2.5k images to photoshop.
I'd say many more. =\Last modified on 2011-01-17 at 14:21
#4 by justinizhere
2011-01-17 at 14:24
< report >nope not 2.5k only 2.2k xD (from what iv read)Last modified on 2011-01-17 at 14:38
#5 by pendelhaven
2011-01-17 at 14:43
< report >@4:

linkLast modified on 2011-01-17 at 16:36
#6 by justinizhere
2011-01-17 at 15:03
< report >@5

link

nuff said, now back to the main question O.oLast modified on 2011-01-17 at 15:12
#7 by echomateria
2011-01-17 at 17:55
< report >"if this title would be picked up for translation"
There is no "if" :)

I edited 2127 images for Eien no Aselia the year before, and last year I edited 2202 images for Seinarukana.

Battle system of Seinarukana is vastly improved and much more enjoyable. But it might look like the same boring thing for a person that hated it in EnA, so decide for yourself after playing it, I guess.

One of the noticeable improvements is the ability to set a destination for your squads, so they would move themselves instead of you moving them one step at a time every turn, a feature I missed dearly in EnA when I got back to it for the translation project.

Here check this youtube video for a visual from combat.Last modified on 2011-01-17 at 17:56
#8 by gabezhul
2011-01-17 at 18:16
< report >Now that you brought it up, can you give us a rough estimate of when the patch will be done? A few months? A year? Two hours before the heat-death of the universe?Last modified on 2011-01-17 at 18:17
#9 by himitsukou
2011-01-17 at 19:09
< report >When it's done.
#10 by pendelhaven
2011-01-17 at 19:30
< report >that's probably the most generic answer I've read today.
#11 by echomateria
2011-01-17 at 23:01
< report >I'll have an idea when our translator shows up again since he is MIA ATM :)

I'd recommend checking up on the project page on tlwiki once a few weeks for updates.
#12 by gabezhul
2011-01-17 at 23:28
< report >Okay, I keep that in mind. Thanks for the heads-up. :D
#13 by justinizhere
2011-01-18 at 01:37
< report >
Battle system of Seinarukana is vastly improved and much more enjoyable. But it might look like the same boring thing for a person that hated it in EnA
the battle system itself wasn't bad but it did have a few flaws, but if its improved in Seinarukana thats awesome.

and the destonation system would actualy allow me to grind out the other routes without wanting to just close it.Last modified on 2011-01-18 at 01:47
#14 by justinizhere
2011-03-03 at 09:24
< report >so is the fan translation still moving or is it stalled indefinitely?
#15 by clephas
2011-04-12 at 06:12
< report >The gameplay is much improved... the problem is that the plot is far less well written than Aselia was... Sadly.
Narukana is not all that interesting a character (or rather, she could have been, but didn't end up as one) and the other characters, for all that they have interesting aspects to their pasts and personalities... just don't leave that strong of an impression.

It's like the writing quality fell several degrees between the games...
#16 by justinizhere
2011-04-12 at 07:11
< report >that's not good news...
#17 by dacasa
2011-04-12 at 15:15
< report >Btw translation is still moving. They found a new translator. I certainly do hope that what 15 said is just a matter of taste. I didn't think the plot in the 1st one was written that well, but i liked the character development.
#18 by justinizhere
2011-04-12 at 17:29
< report >yeah iv seen they found a new translator, i also hope that what 15 said its a matter of taste. i really liked the first one, would suck to have waited for so long to see they canned the story for better gameplay D:
#19 by unkind
2011-04-12 at 17:55
< report >I read the prologue before I stopped because the game was too hard to read overall (probably still is). But it didn't seem as bad as the ENA 1 prologue (which was the WORST I've ever seen in any game). Don't get me wrong, it was fucking horrible too . But still, not as bad.Last modified on 2011-04-12 at 17:56
#20 by echomateria
2011-04-12 at 22:27
< report >I love the prologue of Eien no Aselia. It was much longer in the original version as well, but there were many people that found it too long, so they cut it 9/10 of it, and left what everyone played in the last version. If even that felt too long & bad toyou, I can't imagine what you'd feel the playing the original.

The story of Eien no Aselia is better, you should all accept this truth before even starting on Seinarukana. Though everyone agrees that Seinarukana is better in almost every other aspect, aside from the characters. There are people that like EnA characters more and there are others that prefer SeiNaru characters.

With stunning visuals link & link,
Incredible details of all its menu and RPG related screens link & link,
Vast number of characters link, link & link
Much improved battle link,
and strategy screens link,

Seinarukana is a great game, I had sooooo much fun while playing it. But in the end it is a sequel, and it is always hard to remember a sequel that was better than the original that inspired it.
(no need the very short list here :)

PS: Our new translator is doing a great job so far, if he keeps up at this pace and doesn't live his life, I'm pretty optimistic that things will reach a good ending much faster than I expected. But then again I wasn't expecting anything for a few years, so...
#21 by justinizhere
2011-04-12 at 22:44
< report >
I love the prologue of Eien no Aselia.
agreed

Seinarukana is a great game, I had sooooo much fun while playing it. But in the end it is a sequel, and it is always hard to remember a sequel that was better than the original that inspired it.
this is true, either way i was gonna read seinarukana and chances are i would have loved it anyway.

PS: Our new translator is doing a great job so far, if he keeps up at this pace and doesn't live his life, I'm pretty optimistic that things will reach a good ending much faster than I expected. But then again I wasn't expecting anything for a few years, so...
awesome stuff, also..if nighteye comes back will 2 people be translating it together?Last modified on 2011-04-12 at 22:45
#22 by unkind
2011-04-13 at 02:39
< report >Okay this is approaching off-topic but I feel it needs to be said. --- REALLY? You guys actually enjoyed the prologue (talking ENA here not seinarukana )? I mean, I loved the game don't get me wrong, SRPG ftw. But everybody I got to play the it nearly dropped it because the prologue was so bad (art/story/music/voices/art), including me.
#23 by justinizhere
2011-04-13 at 04:09
< report >opinions, everyone has them...
#24 by echomateria
2011-04-13 at 05:26
< report >When I first started it; I got a bad impression from the prologue as well. It was the first 640x480 that I played for a long time.
(since I played it late and mostly forgot about the older VNs that I played many years before)
I didn't like the graphics, the sound quality was also worse than the stuff that I had been playing lately.
(they all fixed those at Eien no Aselia -Kono Daichi no Hate De-, but at the original Eien no Aselia release they were the issues)
And it looked like your run of the mill school romance drama with bad graphics and sound and not really interesting characters.
That was my first impression to the game after my first half an hour. I was quite underwhelmed.
But I kept playing on and even found some bits on that long prologue tht I fancied.
After finishing the game once, and playing through the prologue again, it was already filled with precious moments to savor, those rare moments on the original world before everything permanently changed... So it turned into something I loved. But it was a process, I agree that it is not an explosive start that would keep everyone glued to the screen for a while. That's probably why Seinarukana starts the way it does.
#25 by hayate135
2011-04-13 at 05:52
< report >I thought the prologue was rather bland and gave a weak first impression, but after playing the game and going on my second playthrough, which the game encourages new game plus+ and so on, the prologue felt that much more enjoyable this time around. Especially with the new scene regarding Shun and Kaori, kind of adds on to the impression with the content placed just in the right areas.

By the way, does Yuuto or any of the other EnA characters make an appearance in Seinarukana?Last modified on 2011-04-13 at 05:56