|#1 by luther|
2018-10-31 at 02:51
|On EGS and 2chan, it's had really bad scores and complaints about it being a chuuni mish-mash of FSN, Guilty Crown and Dies Irae. This doesn't make for a good impression of what's going to be an ongoing series for this company.|
|#2 by kominara|
2018-10-31 at 03:03
|The main complaints are that they didn't disclose that this would be an episodic game prior to release, and the game is sold for the same price as a "normal" eroge, despite being a fraction of the length. There's some complaints about the writing too, but the problems with that should've been obvious, especially since the writer seems to only have experience writing nukige.|
|#3 by ramaladni|
2018-10-31 at 03:08
|Basically, they promised or gave the idea there would be individual routes/H-scenes for all heroines but that wasn't the case. The fans are upset over the deceptive marketing strategies employed and some even compared the situation to the Kakyuusei 2 incident.|
Funny how this month's most anticipated release, after going through many years of development, turned out to be a scam.Last modified on 2018-10-31 at 03:30
|#4 by kominara|
2018-10-31 at 03:10
|#3 nobody's comparing this to doukyuusei 2. i'm pretty sure you mean kakyuusei 2.|
I'd compare the situation more to the Also sprach zarathustra release of Dies irae. They promised a complete game, and instead delivered a disappointing incomplete mess.
|#5 by luther|
2018-10-31 at 03:16
|So there is still hope that they will fix their mistakes then? I sure hope so.|
|#6 by kominara|
2018-10-31 at 03:28
|#5 It's possible, although I think the damage has already been done to their reputation. light was a bit better off, since they had already built up some goodwill with Paradise Lost and people knew what they were capable of. In Deep One's case, the company has no prior reputation and the writer may very well be incapable of writing something better. Even if the rest of the episodes get released, I have the feeling that this was a big enough fiasco to kill the company for good.|
|#7 by ramaladni|
2018-10-31 at 03:32
|#3 Sorry, I got the two mixed up. Thanks for the correction.|
I know there were people who were really excited about it merely over the filesize itself (about 13GB). Gets me wondering just how much content is missing.
|#8 by eacil|
2018-10-31 at 03:46
|LMAO the Kakyuusei 2 "incident" used as a comparison in 2018 without understanding that the only thing this incident did was to showcase how part of the otaku community is rotten to the core. If the complaints are about the completion of the game then it has nothing to do here and if it has then the dumbass who used it didn't grasp the irony of his gesture.|
Source please. EGS?
Man, I thought Nexton would stock some dough with this chuunige they would transfuse to Liquid but they fucked it up once again... *sigh*
|#9 by kominara|
2018-10-31 at 04:06
|#8 Kakyuusei 2 is...not the most apt comparison out there. It might be comparable in the controversy it caused, but it's also true that the controversy had very little to do with the game's quality and a lot more to do with a bunch of moebuta snowflakes. I'd say it's akin to comparing every single somewhat challenging game to Dark Souls.|
|#10 by ramaladni|
2018-10-31 at 04:18
|Honestly, I feel embarrassed for making this remark since I was just going off what someone else said to me. I'll be more careful in the future. It was only one random person saying it and their tweet only got one like. |
Well, here's some other tweets to make up for it:
|#11 by infernoplex|
2018-10-31 at 18:14
...and complaints about it being a chuuni mish-mash of FSN, Guilty Crown and Dies Irae.
Color me interested.
|#12 by kiru|
2018-11-01 at 08:13
|^Food discussions of Fate, cringe of Guilty Crown. Dies Irae is just there to look good. (actually I don't really know much of Dies Irae, sorry)Last modified on 2018-11-01 at 08:14|
|#13 by sakurakoi|
2018-11-01 at 09:36
Color me interested.Your taste sucks! (and mine, which is different, too~)
Obviously it is all a matter of how it is advertised and if what is said here is true... even if I would enjoy it, I'd rather not support such a business. Needless to say, I always despise it if one claims that one('s) story is good when it is actually just entertaining for those who may enjoy it. For works like this it is important to know how seriously it takes itself, how cringe/over-the-top it is and maybe (to measure how well it is written) how much one has to suspend their disbelief to accept the characters, premises, coincidences and actions.
^Food discussions of Fateis that why F/SN has a fat "info dumping" tag or is it on top of that?
(by the by, info dumps are just terrible, as much as I did love Nigotta Hitomi no Lilianne first, no 4 years old after 172+ chapters, of quite a decent length, not LN length but not short either, because "muh magic" is utterly saddening. It's not slice of life fluff one is there for even if there is some banter, it is largely and only about how awesome they and their magic is)
cringe of Guilty Crown. Dies Irae is just there to look goodIs there a difference? Is it dependent on success? *(t)rolls a way*
|#14 by kiru|
2018-11-01 at 09:49
|Supposedly the author said he was heavily inspired by Fate. To the point, there seems to be more than a couple of parallels. I don't think it's necessarily bad, as chuuni things are always similar anyway, but if you don't deliver on your setting and with writing, it's hard to stand out. That seems to be the problem here. It'll just feel like someone liked Fate and ripped it of. And if you then don't even do what you advertised (?), it's going to be a little bad. Although that may've been obvious if you consider the presentation. Something being in the works for 10 years doesn't mean you worked at it all the time either.|
Well. People getting hyped. It's not one of the best chuuni games out there. It's not even complete. (wait another 10 years for the sequel?) False advertisement. Japan can get quite mad at this. Understandable, I guess.
I'm completely used to false advertisement though, so I can't really feel that point. Games here seem to ALWAYS get falsely advertised... makes you think a bit.Last modified on 2018-11-01 at 09:52
|#15 by arilando|
2019-01-11 at 10:41
What is the Kakyuusei incident?
|#16 by dk382|
2019-01-11 at 11:59
|#15 People assumed Kyakuusei 2 was going to be a pure love romance game when it actually had a much more serious story that featured non-virgin heroines and NTR. This sparked a large outrage among japanese incels. The incident (along with several other similar ones over the years) ended up spooking the industry into playing it safe with romance games from then on.|
|#17 by lighteller|
2019-02-19 at 03:50
|What's up with chuuni titles being incomplete? It's third anticipated work ending up with such controversy in my knowledge, from Dies Irae... Fortissimo... now this.|
|#18 by erohatasensei|
2019-02-19 at 10:09
|How the fuck did this game make it into Getchu Awards holy fuck|
|#19 by kiru|
2019-02-19 at 10:27
|@17: Fortissimo was complete, just not voiced and whatnot. For reasons I don't know. Still weird however, that the voiced version was only released half a year later. That one however is still the best version available. The alternate version is just bad, because of a lot of new content written by random guys that is bad fan fiction tier and destroys a lot, if you happen to choose the wrong choices.|
@18:You can say that about a lot of games on there, really. Actually, most of them. But you somehow have to fill the places up.. I guess?
|#20 by cyric|
2019-02-19 at 13:53
|@15 Advertised as pure love story, people got railroaded into NTR|
I'd be pretty pissed myself as well
|#21 by tyr|
2019-02-19 at 18:42
|You're saying that as if you think it's true. |
I hope you guys are aware that Kaykuusei 2 being a surprise NTR game is a meme? It's not true.
And basing your assumptions on a meme instead of facts is the whole point #8 was trying to make lol.
|#22 by erohatasensei|
2019-02-19 at 18:55
Angry people who cannot take that their escapism is not catered to. (-_-;)
|#23 by toru-ben|
2019-02-19 at 20:01
|You are just parrotting what Tyr said years ago.|
That's why it's no coincidence that the both of you replied here one another shortly after lol.
Hope you can make up your own mind at a point.
|#24 by erohatasensei|
2019-02-19 at 20:52
|There is not much to make up for. Do you want me to pretend I like NTR? It's just a realistic way how unhealthy relationships can turn out :)|
|#25 by toru-ben|
2019-02-19 at 21:19
|I don't want you to do anything; you wouldn't do it anyway, that much is certain.|
I was just pointing out how you are just re-iterating what someone else said because you didn't bother looking deeper into it yourself.
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