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#26 by veshurik
2019-02-20 at 13:26
I hear that VN is on 2-10 hours, but not 10-30. Is it really so?
#27 by kiru
2019-02-20 at 13:38
I don't see a reason for that. No. Just check EGS for such questions. While average playtime votes are obviously different from length, if people need on average 15 hours, it's very unlikely to be shorter than 10.
#28 by cyric
2019-02-20 at 13:59
#21
nope, plenty of NTR games that existed before Kakyuusei and nobody had a problem with it
same with non virgin heroines, if I'm not mistaken previous elf games had those as well
many people simply dislike NTR and that's fine, paying money to get a shoehorned fetish instead of something you would enjoy is not exactly pleasant
#29 by namiultedjapan
2019-02-20 at 20:13
#20 Was it legit NTR with scenes of it or the fact that some heroines weren't vigins? Was the NTR at least avoidable?
#30 by cyric
2019-02-20 at 20:44
It had several scenes, the ''main'' (she's on the disc) heroine is the only one with such as she begins the vn with a boyfriend.
You pick her up throughout the vn in front of a love hotel among other things.
There is one scene where the protag spies on her and her boyfriend.
And as I said people wouldn't mind had that been actually advertised, these were days before the internet, in japan at least.
#31 by kominara
2019-02-20 at 22:33
#30 to be fair, you're a complete moron if you pick up an elf game and get upset by it having ntr
#32 by cyric
2019-02-20 at 22:53
True these days,
But at the time advertising and word of mouth was all the info you could get not to mention Kakyuusei 1 had no ntr.
That's all it was a PR disaster, nowadays you can just check sites like vndb if a vn has fetishes you dislike. It's very unlikely that such a thing would repeat itself.
Still unfortunate that it ended as it did with even the artist having a hard time finding a job after it.
#33 by namiultedjapan
2019-02-21 at 18:30
#31 Did they at least make it avoidable? I know some of their games they went this route. I think doing that kind of thing could let them make those types of games while not entirely pissing off NTR haters. Just have like choices and if like you are a huge asshole to a heroine then she gets NTR'd.
#34 by cyric
2019-02-21 at 19:52
No, that was her route basically.
You do end up with her in the end, but even when they break up it's him breaking up with her.
To be fair it's not that bad, but throught the route she comes off as a not so appealing person hence a lot of hate.
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#35 by tyr
2019-02-21 at 20:11
Nothing cyric is saying is actually true and happens in the game.
It's pretty obvious he didn't really play the game and just took the memes at face value.
#36 by cyric
2019-02-21 at 20:19
Nope, had a good laugh with friends a couple months ago.
I really don't know if you're memeing here but deceit benefits no one.
#37 by namiultedjapan
2019-02-21 at 23:59
#34 do you actually see them have sex? or is it implied throughout?
#38 by cyric
2019-02-22 at 00:21
Implied, as far as I know only one scene and it's only protag peeping the boyfriend groping the girl.

I mean you should read it for yourself if you know jap, I was just interested in the whole scandal so I read about it couple of months ago.
#39 by namiultedjapan
2019-02-22 at 01:38
#38 I only play NTR games when its an ever present threat but I can avoid it all through choices (Like Tsumamigui 3). Other wise I wont touch it. Maybe one day I'll check it out if its not bad as you say. Although my list of VNs I want to read reaches from here to the sun and back lol. I do read Japanese and at a decent speed. I'm getting better with every VN I finish.
#40 by cyric
2019-02-22 at 14:54
Well same, I'm nowhere near reading japanese just finished kanji 3 months ago.
Plenty of vocab still left to do before I jump into vns.
I'm having a fun time racing sekai though.
#41 by alexlung
2019-04-15 at 01:15
I wouldn't take what cyric said to be true as tyr have pointed out. Not to mention his account is pretty new and voted 9 for several titles in a row

The game is also pretty big, close to 16GB after installation, it was well-received within the CN community so let see how it goesLast modified on 2019-04-15 at 01:32
#42 by cyric
2019-04-15 at 08:21
I wasn't talking about Deep one in the title. I was talking about Kakyuusei 2, to which the conversation went to. Also nothing ''suspicious'' about my votes, there's plenty of vns I'd vote with lesser score, I just don't feel like giving bad scores as it's entirely subjective, might deter people from trying the vns.
#43 by freshift
2019-04-15 at 08:49
#41 The fact that cyric wasn't talking about this title aside, the size of a game does not equals to its actual playing time.

Its second hand copy is now sold in Suruga-ya at mere 1,250 yen, which should help guessing how badly the game was received by Japanese players. Recall the game's original price was the full price of 9,800 yen.

For a comparison, a second hand copy of Amazing Grace -What color is your attribute?-, the game that was released a month later at the same price, is now being sold at 7,280 yen.Last modified on 2019-04-15 at 08:55
#44 by alexlung
2019-04-15 at 22:23
#42 Okay my bad I just assume you simply made an account just to shit on a game. That was nice of you, I don't think there are many ppl like that around

Yeah, I also notice it's being sold at 3k Yen on Amazon and bad reviews from the Japanese community. It seems to be better than Liber 7 though

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