VN Podcast Ep 13- Learning Japanese

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#1 by superangelo128
2018-11-20 at 19:27
Hey, folks!

This episode we talked a bit about our journeys into reading visual novels in Japanese with a guest who is no stranger to the medium, /u/Cornetto_man. Reading in Japanese is a pretty daunting task when starting from square one, and there's a lot of information about getting started out there. So of course, we decided to put our own thoughts to words on it. It's definitely not for everyone, and can feel like an uphill battle at times, but for fans of the medium, it can be incredibly freeing to open up the entire history of the medium, and also be able to stand waiting for the newest releases without needing to wait for a localization company to pick it up and eventually release a translation. If you're on the fence about getting started, maybe listening to us chat about it can help you make up your mind!

As always, feel free to comment on the cast below.

There’s also a list of Japanese resources at the bottom of this post:

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Discussion Topics

* Have you read VNs in Japanese or are you interested to start?
* Was there a big untranslated title that you started learning for, or would consider starting to learn the language to read?
* We have a short list of resources linked in our blogpost. Are there any others that you've found helpful that you'd like to make others aware of?
#2 by ramaladni
2018-11-20 at 23:17
I listened for about 30 minutes. Having already started learning JP for a few months, there wasn't really any new information for me, but I would say that most what was said is correct and suitable for this type of discussion.

Perhaps one of the challenges I find myself facing off with is still having a considerable English backlog of things I want to read, and it's often a temptation. When I am really having trouble reading something there is always a temptation in the back of my mind telling me I could be reading or watching something as or more enjoyable but easier to read. In the end, I think it's important not to overwork yourself and always go for something you think/know you will truly enjoy.

200 titles in two years is well...quite impressive, but I can see it as being feasible if you don't really have any other hobbies or have a considerable amount of free time.

It was a good video, thanks.Last modified on 2018-11-20 at 23:18
#3 by tomtheerogeman
2018-11-21 at 07:42
The "art" of reading Japanese for visual novels has come up several times in this forum not too long ago. I don't have time to listen to that podcast (ok I'll admit it, I have time but I'd rather hone my Japanese), but anyone who's been following these discussions on vndb knows that I, too, have learned Japanese just for visual novels.

* Have you read VNs in Japanese?

I've read a few, yes.

* Was there a big untranslated title that you started learning for?

There wasn't one specific title I started learning for. When I got interested in VNs back in 2012, I not only read what was available in English, I also lurked places like vndb, /jp/, fuwanovel, link, and so on. I would learn about all these different visual novels in Japanese, and would watch random openings on youtube uploaded by all the ketsuage channels and such. After reading only a few translated ones, my VN life had to end because I was too busy with college, work, etc.

I got back into it after a few years, and after only starting to learn Japanese, I then had a massive backlog of old stuff to read that caught my eye back then. Plus resolutions like 640x480 and 800x600 look like shit on 4K monitors, so I'm trying to enjoy a lot of old VNs now before they become almost unplayable in the future.

* We have a short list of resources linked in our blogpost. Are there any others that you've found helpful that you'd like to make others aware of?

Using the methods discussed in t10785, specifically posts #1 and #3, allowed me to read and understand a lot of untranslated VNs WITHOUT a dictionary in less than 2 years. Textbooks do a better job at teaching basic concepts to newbies than the free grammar guides out there from my experience, however those free grammar guides seem a lot easier to understand once you think you already know the basics. Also look at some of my posts in t11338, they are goldmines of information for anyone who is interested.


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