How is naoki this unlikable?

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#26 by namiultedjapan
2018-11-27 at 15:04
Western society likes MCs to not be beta cucks. Silly east.
#27 by velociraptor
2018-11-27 at 20:04
#26..
Sure.. Majority can't be the protagonist and go for the leftovers.. In Chinese novels they call it wearing the green hat.. St. Patrick's day isn't popular in China.. XD XD XD.. (This is meant to be a Joke. I don't mean to hurt anyone's sentiments. I have a Catholic background, and I understand people can be sensitive when it comes to stuff like this, so I am saying this again, this is meant to be a silly joke)...
And not all westerners like douchebags.. It's probably just idiots who lack proper family backgrounds or having a history of abuse or some other problem..Of course teenage girls have a thing for douchebags. But they wouldn't have taken such risks if men had enough self respect to stay single for life than go for leftovers..Last modified on 2018-11-27 at 20:07
#28 by seniorblitz
2018-11-27 at 20:13
#27
"It's probably just idiots who lack proper family backgrounds or having a history of abuse or some other problem..Of course teenage girls have a thing for douchebags."
Generalizing much bro?
Also calling girls "leftovers" and saying "Proper family background". I seriously hope you're a troll.Last modified on 2018-11-27 at 20:14
#29 by velociraptor
2018-11-27 at 21:02
@#28
You think his racist comment deserved a better answer?
As for talking about family backgrounds and calling girls leftovers, it's commonplace in the social gatherings, especially family meetings where your grandparents, uncles and aunts lecture you how to choose your friends endlessly till you fall asleep..
As for calling girls leftovers. That's my personal view, I am not forcing my ideals on anyone, neither would I call anyone that unless such a person wants to have a romantic relationship with me... I respect virtuous ladies, but not all girls are 'ladies'. I respect gentlemen, not all men are 'gentlemen'..
I am not talking about family background or noble status, just personal ethics and morality..
And girls are free to consider guys like that as leftovers too.. No one's preventing them from thinking that...

We're drifting away from the topic of discussion, you know?? Anyway, I apologize if I somehow offended you. I only responded that way because he made that comment about a visual novel made in the east for the people of the East (probably xD.)Last modified on 2018-11-27 at 21:03
#30 by seniorblitz
2018-11-27 at 21:19
Nah I'm not offended, didn't want to derail the thread was just making some observations, just thought some of your comments had some... implications but I'm not here to debate, also 26# is possibly joking around.
#31 by namiultedjapan
2018-11-27 at 22:57
#29 Are you ok bro? I'm assuming English isn't your first language but it really seems like you are going full sperglord right now xD Relax friend.
#32 by luther
2018-11-28 at 04:30
If Naoki was in this thread, he would call you all loser autists and call it a day.
#33 by komocakeps
2018-11-28 at 05:34
I can't believe this thread and how much it got derailed. Oh what, the racist card has been pulled? this right here is top quality community. no wonder some people get butthurt over some "benign posts".

Naoki will shine somewhere near the end of common route so calm your tits downLast modified on 2018-11-28 at 05:35
#34 by sakurakoi
2018-11-28 at 06:58
so calm your tits down
that's sexual harassment!

report'd to the local authorities (yorhel)~

Seriously thou'...
also 26# is possibly joking around.
of course it is more of a joke which reflects a part of a truth regarding the differences in cultures. Although to be more precise it is not east and west but Japan and not-Japan, of which the prior is more "herbivorous" while China already is much more "west" in that regard. Needless, just because I say I do not like cucks (or overly-dense), I do not imply that I like douches.
#35 by namiultedjapan
2018-11-28 at 19:08
#34 Ya idk how anyone can not see I'm joking around.
#36 by zayne11293
2018-11-28 at 21:18
I wasnt even interested in this VN but with how much everyone is trashing Naoki I may have to read it now, his character sounds like the writers wanted to make him the complete opposite of the usual VN MC making him intentionally unlikeable.
#37 by luther
2018-11-29 at 06:52
#34 I bet you hate Japan by you praising China as the "West."
#38 by komocakeps
2018-12-08 at 11:12
speaking of the west, how is Akira a heroine? she's manipulative, condescending and a bitch all around. she's quite the entitled and spoiled western woman who have received too many rights at the expense of men. the only thing missing from her in the western world is the current #metoo era where a simple false accusation is enough to send any guy into prison and get his life ruined. aside from #metoo, she's an overgrown woman acting like somewhere in her near 30s (Kurumi is more than right in this regard at least) with the attitude of a mouthy and nagging wife. who would even? I don't understand the appeal.Last modified on 2018-12-08 at 11:13
#39 by aprilia1k
2018-12-13 at 23:18
Forgot to make relevant to OP.

No protagonist. One wimptagonist. One douchetagonist....

Cover the two most frequently occurring _writer/creator_ personalities, I suppose. I assure you - they're alter-egos for the writers.

Or... maybe I am joking.
? Heh...

Someone suggested the following edit to Naoki's profile:

Naoki is very nearly a sociopath, in terms of his complete lack of empathy for anyone who is not a childhood friend, or to whom he has sworn loyalty. He is sadistic and completely untrustworthy - basically he is a complete asshole. The writers deserve credit for creating a character that likely mirrors their own IRL personas."

I side with everyone here... well, except for the dude with the handle derived from Jurassic fauna. Too much hubris, judgement, etc.. ugh.... Don't reply bro, seriously - just don't. heh...Last modified on 2018-12-13 at 23:35
#40 by namiultedjapan
2018-12-14 at 19:19
#39 I got more of a psychopath vibe if anything.
#41 by komocakeps
2018-12-14 at 19:22
#40 if anything Akira is more of the psychopath. I'd label Naoki more of a manipulator.
#42 by zeorymer
2019-01-28 at 00:45
whole unlikeable thingy is just weird, both protags are what they are & i´d rather have them no being ur stardardized 1dimensional schmucks, than otherwise. naoki in particular is no really that extreme in his behavior anyway, at least in his arc the shenanigans are toned down a loooot, and honestly i found him behaving the way he did quite fun to watch.Last modified on 2019-01-28 at 00:56
#43 by sonhot
2019-02-18 at 03:56
Sigh...and here i was glad for Naoki's presence since i dread those tags on Tooru's personality traits. I means a combination of emotional+kind+obedient+pacifist+timid just scream wimpy cuck that should be a ntr protagonist. But i'm not a fan of the other extreme end of the stick either which Naoki seems to belong to arcording to you guys. Why most male protagonist have to be on either extreme ends, is it so hard to write a male protagonist who's something in the middle?Last modified on 2019-02-18 at 03:59
#44 by namiultedjapan
2019-02-18 at 18:57
#43 Why don't you read it for yourself and then decide?

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