Bishoujo Game/Galge tag please!

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#1 by datsu11
2019-01-02 at 15:58
Why can not the Bishoujo Game or Galge tag? I think this tag is needed to identify the audience of the game, just like Otome Game.

After all, if there is the Otome Game tag, it is fair to put the tag Galge, after all it is not as if every visual novel was for men and there is a visual novel that is for both of them.
#2 by rusanon
2019-01-02 at 16:05
While we are at it, please add "Visual Novel" tag. Its unfair that there's tags for RPG and Strategy and so on, but no tag for VNs.
#3 by kiru
2019-01-02 at 16:14
To be fair, there are plenty of VNs that aren't "bishoujo" games, by original definition. Stuff like Umineko. Not sure if the western scene gave "bishoujo" game more of a meaning than it actually had: Games centered around the interaction with attractive/cute girls. CENTERED. It's not just a VN with a male target-group in mind. Nor is it a VN where cute girls exist, but the focus is clearly on something else.

It's less interesting in Japan to make big separations, as most VNs are fitting that definition to a point. But in the western scene you have plenty of... weird stuff. To say the least. Also in Japanese the doujin scene.Last modified on 2019-01-02 at 16:19
#4 by datsu11
2019-01-02 at 22:42
rusanon: Are you suggesting that galge is the default genre of Visual Novel?

Because this is a site for visual novels, why this tag is unnecessary, since all the games in this site are visual novel, some of which have additional elements like RPG.

But not every game is Bishoujo / Galge and I think this tag should be specified for those looking for games like that.

kiru: I know that the term "bishoujo" was given in the west, so much so that I gave the alternative title of galge and I agree that not every game deserves to be called bishoujo, but galge is a term of Japan itself to identify games made for the male audience where you are a male who interacts with female characters.

I just used the term "bishoujo game" because that's the definition most people know.

But the correct one is galge.
#5 by kratoscar2008
2019-01-03 at 16:31
Arent Bishoujo games the catch all term for visual novels? I think it means somehting beatiful girl or something? Even games where the story isnt focused on girls the cast is usually made of beautiful girls so the tag doesnt seems specific enough to merit inclusion. Heck im not even sure why we have a male protagonist tag.

So my answer is no.
#6 by kiru
2019-01-03 at 17:33
^No. Bishoujo games are only VNs that are FOCUSED on the interaction with the girls. Umineko, Fata Morgana and such don't fall into this. Not even with the newer art for the commercial re-releases in the former's case. Higurashi on the other hand could be considered somewhat fitting. (due to the one guy, many girls fake setting it has) It's still considered a sound novel officially, so.. yeah. Given the art, nothing beautiful at the girls anyway?
Also, with the advent of western VNs, a lot more games exist that don't fit "bishoujo game" at all.

A certain big Japanese website uses the term for all-ages console releases btw., but I think that's just their thing to separate those from the PC adult stuff.

The problem with the tag is, that we'd need a tag with a name that's not confusing. Descriptions aren't read anyway. You should still probably mention how the focus needs to be on interacting with the girls to at least a good amount. And we'd need to think about how yuri and yuri subtext works are handled, as bishoujo games came from dating sims and kinda require a self-insert male protagonist. Given the sheer amount of works it would at least somewhat fit for, it may also just be better to think of major tags that are conflicting with a bishoujo game. We already have otome. Yuri can also work. But works like Fata Morgana, Dear my Abyss and so on would need something. Would be way less tagging.

edit: What I however think is that maybe someone just more or less wants the "moege" tag again. Because those are the closest to what a bishoujo game actually is.Last modified on 2019-01-03 at 17:34
#7 by kratoscar2008
2019-01-09 at 02:31
But many if not all story focused characters usually have their branches or paths still focused on a girl so the bishoujo tag would seem like kind of uselless if we consider bishoujos as moeges.
#8 by ramaladni
2019-01-09 at 02:34
I can see this being a tag that will lead to very heated discussions, as beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.


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