Playing every Visual Novel (without ctrl)
|#1 by luther|
2019-02-08 at 02:49
|< report >Is it possible? Will someone with a normal lifespan be able to achieve this feat?|
|#2 by lordnight|
2019-02-08 at 03:44
|< report >short answer: no|
long answer: considering that there are almost 25k kinds of VNs in here, (and probably other that aren't listed) and considering one only plays for 12hours straight per day, and has a really fast reading speed where one could finish the entirety of any kind of VN in less than 4 hours then you'll finish everything in more or less around 22 years.
tldr long answer: no
|#3 by luther|
2019-02-08 at 03:55
|< report >@2 that actually sounds doable.|
|#4 by ninigi|
2019-02-08 at 05:13
|< report >Not that many VNs are translated anyway.|
|#5 by sakurakoi|
2019-02-08 at 06:17
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and has a really fast reading speed where one could finish the entirety of any kind of VN in less than 4 hourswithout even considering that simply many VNs are way longer than that even if your reading speed is double the average (let's just take 8h as average length of all VNs because ofc many are shorter), there are many VNs where reading speed is not the limiter but the "gameplay" (choices). Not every VN has a walkthrough either and of course, if you gonna read every VN, then you'd go for nothing less than 100% completion.
Well, what also cuts down on the VNs to read is that quite a lot of the 25k is not just OELVN but Western Adult Games and only 12 hours a day? If you gonna be a NEET or senior citizen, then you might as well go for 15h reading, 1h misc and 8h sleeping. If you are not, and few can indeed be for long, never even mind affording many which are not freely available, then with a modest part time job and caring for yourself and it is maybe 8h a day, at best.
Not to mention: Does your Johny/whatever some crazy calls her vagina or motivation last for the many works which focus on sexual content? Can you be that stoic and not be disgusted by certain art or works? Or just simply bored...
tl;dr: noooooopuLast modified on 2019-02-08 at 06:17
|#6 by ramaladni|
2019-02-08 at 06:27
|< report >There is a certain person with a Reinhard avatar who can read 10 VNs a day so I'm sure it's possible.|
|#7 by anonymous|
2019-02-08 at 08:58
|< report >Well...you can certainly read every english translated one, and you can certainly read every VN that is worth reading. In fact, I'm sure it's quite common for people here.|
|#8 by onorub|
2019-02-08 at 14:48
|< report >There are about 600 or so VNs that are specially notable, so making that a goal is pretty doable if you dedicate yourself for a decade.|
|#9 by bobjr2000|
2019-02-08 at 19:17
|< report >real answer is no. |
hypothetically with ideal conditions probably no. Under hypothetical it would have be crappy conditions. Lets say avg life span is 80 yrs. I will cut that to 65 because of being able to read and other stuff ect.
So you have about 570,000 hours left divide by 1/3 of avg sleeping is about 190,000 to work with. This is not even taking into account using restroom, eating and other necessities in life need to take care so its even less assuming you still want to have semi normal life. 24,000 VN just on here lets assume each has avg of 10 hours which we know some have more/less=240,000 hrs. Meaning you are significantly short of time.
Under crappy conditions and special conditions less sleep, not working, eat/toilet while reading, having faster reading habits ect. You can add a ton of hours but at that point why.
Here are obvious problems why its impossible
-comprehension, skimming and speed reading isn't same as reading imo.
-acquiring every vn out there
-new vn will be coming out yearly
-do you include fan fiction, eroge, other countries vn not just japanese, only translated ect
-comp limitations, even if can read fast how fast click and some times speed of vn which can vary thus slowing down as well.
-translation are reading japanese or using translator. And will this include other countries languages as well meaning have to know how to read several languages if not going to use translator.
Only person that under ideal conditions might be able would be a Berg type who can read 25,000 words per minute. Even then he would run into all same walls above.
So no its not possible and not sure why you would when grand scheme of them is crap. Go with top 100 favorites and that should last you awhile.
|#10 by pramit|
2019-08-23 at 16:02
|< report >You will likely go brain dead from reading all the bad vns which outnumber the good ones by a certain factor (Idk, I have read my share of bad vn's but mostly when I was bored and horny. Some are surprisingly decent or have some chapter which makes it worth it).|
|#11 by luther|
2019-12-23 at 13:47
|< report >Okay, let's ease up the conditions. You only have to play the common route and one route of your favorite girl/boy/ending. How much hours would that cut back?|
|#12 by ecchihieronymus|
2019-12-23 at 15:56
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You only have to play the common route
From what I've heard and read, it's common for common routes to be the longest part of a VN. Maybe Grisaia is just an extreme example but the common route there is 10-20h long depending on your reading speed. This is to say that 'just common route+one individual route' isn't a good measure for shortening your VN experience.
I recommend you search for VNs that fit your specific preference of tags and character traits and get all of them first, then read them. I'm at roughly 400 games on Favorites/Wishlists. When you're done with your own list, probably half that number will have been made again for you to read, or maybe you've had a change in preference and a whole plethora of new VNs has opened up to you in response.
TL;DR: No, even if just common route+one girl/char it's not possible to read all in one lifetime. Considering that new ones are made all the time.
P.S. Right now it may be possible that you could read all EVNs that are out at this very moment. If the scene becomes bigger and better that may not be the case anymore.
|#13 by behappyeveryday|
2019-12-27 at 08:53
|< report >@11 Do you understand that 95% of all visual novels are just nukige with nothing much other than sex in it? So skipping routes wouldn't do much. It is possible to read all the translated novels out there and, I assume, it is possible to read top 300 novels without too much sacrifices. Like someone said above - it would take you about 22 years to read ALL the novels, so the answer is - yes, if you didicate your whole life to reading the novels and don't worry about money - then sure. Though no one would do this kind of shit. But if you include the novels which will be created in all those 22 years which required to complete the ones that already exist... then it pretty much could be impossible.|
|#14 by ninigi|
2019-12-27 at 08:59
|< report >^ Pretty sure there is also a lot of all-ages VNs out there. Not to mention, shit ton of Moeges, Chuunige, Plotge, Nakige, Utsuge and Charage. Stating that 95% of all VNs are nukiges is a bit excessive.|
|#15 by arisato1508|
2019-12-27 at 10:05
|< report >Just to give some perspective. I'm someone who had read over 300 titles (370 tiles to be exact). |
- I have spent over 8200 hours give or take ( I do take note of the time I spend with each reading session)
- I completed 100% all the routes, bad end, CGs of almost all the tiltes. Iwould even read until the very end of the routes I didn't find enjoyable. There were some really bad routes in less than a dozen titles that I didn't complete but that is about it.
- I started reading vns at the end of 2010 so around 9 years worth of reading. I was in high school, college and have been working for 4 years.
- I also play video games, watch animes, manga, doujins,.. and my video game collection rivals my vn colletion. I would say I'd spent 40% of my recreation for vns, 30% for video games and 30% for the rest. Although I do wish I'd more time watch movies and tv series.
- Both Japanese and English are not my mother tongue. I can read quite fast in English but my Japanese skill still needs improvement for sure. My average untranslated vn reading time is two medium length titles per month.
- I have normal relationship with my family and girlfriend, and I spend considerable amount of time with them. My job require a lot of travelling so there are days when I just read 5 hours of vn in an airplanes, cars...
- And lastly I loved every bit of time I spend reading vns. I expected to pass 2000 tiltes before 65 yrs old
|#16 by behappyeveryday|
2019-12-28 at 09:19
|< report >@14 Just because there are a lot of genres doesn't mean that they are equally common, lol. Other than Moege everything else you mentioned is very rare compared to the whole quantity of visual novels. Just check the last 20-30 Japanese releases, almost all of them nukige. It is easy to make nukige and they are also can be rather short. To make a visual novel with a plot, emotional impact or memorable characters is hard and time-consuming. There a lot of more good art designers than plot writters.Last modified on 2019-12-28 at 09:19|
|#17 by setsunachan|
2020-02-27 at 00:55
|< report >@15 how do you keep track of the time you spend reading VNs?|
Answering the question, it's not possible even if you skip 99% of routes. Most stories are long and will take more than a day to complete.
I normally finish one or two routes because I make my own headcanon. If it's a game like School Days then I might be compelled to see more. That being said, I haven't read many VNs in my lifetime. The alternate endings pad out the games.
(I just have my waifus and husbandos so I don't really like to end up with anyone else).
Anyway, there are shitloads of visual novels. (This database doesn't have everything ever released.)
Even if you were to read all 25K+ that are listed here, you would spend more than 10 years doing so. And there would always be new releases. So it's an endless cycle. You can't listen to all the music in the world, read every book or watch all films made.
I wouldn't recommend reading most Western VNs. I don't hate them but they are usually inferior compared to Asian VNs. I actually started out with Western dating sims, but I didn't really know what I was reading then.
That being said, a lot of Japanese games suck too, especially low-budget nukige.
... I'll never forget Water Closet lol.Last modified on 2020-02-27 at 00:56
|#18 by eacil|
2020-02-27 at 01:34
|< report >Either you do it manually (check time, write it down), which is very error prone, or you use specialized software that will do it for you.|
|#19 by setsunachan|
2020-02-27 at 01:58
|< report >@18|
I'll search for software, thanks. Any recommendations?
Hm, getting on-topic again, if you turn off voices you will read much faster. At least, the majority of people listen to all voiced lines and this takes more time. Same thing with audiobooks, they will take a longer time to go through than if you were reading a printed book.
You can increase text speed, as well. Just a note, if you have vision problems, text going too fast can confuse your eyes.
Speedreading might affect comprehension. Sometimes I have to go back and forth just to actually understand what I read.
A plus is that visual novels have sprites and CGs which helps with imagination, so you don't have to create scenes and places from your mind most of the time.
With books, I get stuck trying to imagine how a scene plays out; I get stuck with descriptions of appearances, locations, etc. (An example: I still have trouble with picturing hobbits and dwarves, and I can't fully imagine how Middle-Earth is like).
EDIT: It might be doable if you play Very short (less than 2 hours) and Short games (5-10 hours).Last modified on 2020-02-27 at 02:12
|#20 by eacil|
2020-02-27 at 02:17
|< report >Gameplay Time Tracker but I dumped it because it doesn't detect all games (meaning a period of setup each time you install a new game, had rare cases of VN really not wanting to be detected). Like I am on Win7 and it requires admin rights, I can't start it on boot, and like I have something else on my mind than remember if I started a damn tracker, I had the habit of forgetting and my times were all screwed at the end of the day.|
I switched to ManicTime Tracker + sheet but if I ever get hacked, the hacker will know how many times I take a leak or eat my bogeys per day.
|#21 by setsunachan|
2020-02-28 at 01:04
|< report >@20 I tried Gameplay Time Tracker and it wasn't working for me. Also using Windows 7. I'll try ManicTime.|
It is useful though to know how long you've spent reading a VN. I'm trying to read 2 long novels at the same time and paused my progress with another one, VA11 HALL-A (trying to finish it this time). I wouldn't recommend doing that kind of thing. You'll get lost. I often restart everything because I forget what I was reading.
Again, on-topic... I feel like if you read a shit ton of VNs in a short period of time you wouldn't be able to recall them very well. I have to "digest" information after reading/watching something, and I usually discuss it afterwards (especially with films). Discussing helps with recalling. And you should sleep too, so you create memories. It's good if you use your mind whilst reading and afterwards. Analyse the work.
Again, VNs are longer than books. Quantity doesn't really matter. There are people who will read 50 books in a month but I doubt they actually absorb information and they must have a lot of free time. Sadly, this year I won't have much free time at all. Most people don't. There doesn't seem to be many people who have read more than 100 VNs because life happens and you need to do other things.
If you're a NEET/hikikomori like I was, you will be able to do whatever you want whenever you want, but I suggest changing up hobbies after a while to avoid burn out. I was watching several movies per week. I stopped because I lost patience and now I'm in a VN mood. I am watching tokusatsu as well, it's a good change of pace, lots of action, etc. I had been watching slow movies and sometimes they bore you to death or make you sleepy. Same with VNs. I never got too far into YMK because it makes me drowsy.
I hear that it's better to maximise reading time rather than speed. And read what you like. I am not afraid of giving up on something if I dislike it. Although due to hype, I will probably revisit certain works like SubaHibi and Kara no Shoujo (my biggest gripe with it is that it's very reliant on trial and error and you will require a walkthrough).Last modified on 2020-02-28 at 01:06
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