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#101 by dacasa
2011-03-06 at 18:37
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He's totally right you bunch of nitwits

I still wuf you all though~ <3Last modified on 2011-03-06 at 19:47
#102 by kaetokiha
2011-03-06 at 20:00
< report >@arkady i totally agree with you.

I'm sure if MG won't reach the 2000 copies and the patch doesn't come, a lot of people will start to say that MG are deceiving them and this is shame and because oh this they won't buy any more game from MG. (like someone in this threat)
People has a right to think and do whatever they want, but i don't think blame MG for this is fair.Last modified on 2011-03-06 at 20:02
#103 by surferdude
2011-03-06 at 23:07
< report >Apparently, the unofficial voice patch is pretty much complete and almost bug free, so my guess is that soon nobody will give a rat's ass if MG releases a voice patch or not.

Having said that, I think it's kinda sad when paying customers STILL have to resort to piracy to get the full product.Last modified on 2011-03-06 at 23:08
#104 by justinizhere
2011-03-07 at 02:51
< report >yep, voice patch is working near flawlessly, iv been reading it for about 3 hours and the only problems iv ran into are the rare unvoiced line...no biggy

so yeah 2k sales is a pointless number now.
#105 by mstrchef117
2011-03-07 at 03:23
< report >kk, time for me to buy it since voice patch is now not buggy anymore. lol.
#106 by gabezhul
2011-03-20 at 21:57
< report >Note: Found torrent, but not downloading it. I just feel too sorry for MG, I thought people wouldn't pirate it at least until the 2000 copies limit is reached... T_T
#107 by pendelhaven
2011-03-20 at 23:03
< report >i wish i could help MG, but living in a 3rd world country means that 60euros is a big ass. Simply too much. Is this what I get from loving my own country? Should I love or despise my own country? Or the people living with it?
#108 by gabezhul
2011-03-20 at 23:18
< report >Despise the idiots on the top of the food chain. One would think after so many generations spent in leading positions, they would at least have enough brainpower and experience to realize the world's current economic structure is just unmaintainable. But I digress, this is not the thread where we should talk about such things (although I have no idea which one is that one either...)
#109 by kiru
2011-03-21 at 08:42
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i wish i could help MG, but living in a 3rd world country means that 60euros is a big ass.

That's why they sell it for 35 euro. I think it wasn't a bad idea to lower the prices so that people don't have to pay a ton more than for JAST games. (I think they sold new VN like Koihime for 50 euro in the past)
They can't really go lower than that, I mean it's already like half what the games cost in japan. (Though that's a bit of a mood point depending on where you live etc etc)Last modified on 2011-03-21 at 08:44
#110 by saberger
2011-03-21 at 11:41
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They can't really go lower than that, I mean it's already like half what the games cost in japan

Did you really mean it? The game has been out in the market for at least 4 years.

Even with the royalty + English-ed the whole thing, that 's a fair price, but saying : it's already like half what the games cost in japan is just plain stupid.Last modified on 2011-03-21 at 11:42
#111 by kelpie
2011-03-21 at 11:50
< report >@110

What do you mean? Getchu lists the game for 9240 yen, which is about 80 euros. It's very expensive (and not wholly useful to compare prices between Japan and elsewhere), but "it's already like half what the games cost in japan" is at least accurate.
#112 by kiru
2011-03-21 at 11:58
< report >If they could make more profit with lowering prices, they'd do that. Comparing it with Japanese prices like that is possible. They have "more money" (don't quote me on that..), but it's not like people in the west have a whole lot less than them, so half should really be good enough. (again, I already said that this might be a mood point depending on where you live. It simply depends on income, but MG and JAST can't do everyone justice)

If you really think "hey, the game is available since a long time in japan" then you better don't look at west-releases of any games. :| (Which cost the same or more, even though they have a whole lot of stuff without need of "localization": A lot of gameplay. And not all of them have voices to worry about.)Last modified on 2011-03-21 at 12:00
#113 by pendelhaven
2011-03-21 at 17:41
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depending on where you live

This really made me feel bad. I think my skills (a pc enthusiast, yes I'm getting paid for this, but I'll skip the details) isn't getting rewarded fully thanks to this 3rd world country that I live in. Instead of "helping" worthy people like MG, I think I'm just "helping" those unworthy people "on the top of the food chain" whatever gabe meant.
#114 by tthammy
2011-07-15 at 12:08
< report >they sell realy for an expensive price i think :O
#115 by hiei
2011-07-15 at 12:19
< report >@114
50$ / 35 € are expensive ?
In Japan the Game is more expensive (9240Yen - 80 € or 115 $)
#116 by gabezhul
2011-07-15 at 12:41
< report >Yeah, and now take a deep breath and try to imagine that, silly as it might sound, not all people live on the same income as a Japanese or any other citizen of an advanced country. Now try to imagine that those people live on salaries around 200$ at best per month. Now also try to imagine that those people have a family they have to feed, buy fuel to be able to go to work, deal with the other essentials (like, say, electricity, water, gas, silly stuff like that). Now imagine that I'm one of those people, and I tell you that 50$ IS A FUCKING LOT OF MONEY! Sometimes our family spends less on kitchen for a month, so yes, a game, good as it might be, is pretty damn expensive for 50$.
#117 by surferdude
2011-07-15 at 12:52
< report >@115
Yes, 50$ for a game IS expensive because games are not physical items, they are nothing more than digital data and they can be multiplied an infinite number of times after their initial creation. And the Japanese are idiots for paying that much for a mere game in the first place. Hell, they pay more for EVERYTHING for some reason. Also, the world is not Japan so don't act like Japanese standards should apply to everyone.
#118 by hiei
2011-07-15 at 13:32
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Also, the world is not Japan...
I'm afraid so. >_>
#119 by engix
2011-07-15 at 19:14
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I'm afraid so. >_>
If the whole world was Japan that otakus would over flood the world. ---_____________----
On topic: I would actualy buy the game if i could get it without my parents knowing, so i just downloaded it
#120 by arkady18
2011-07-15 at 22:01
< report >Gabe, you're right, but you could see the situation in another perspective: they may need you to spend more than you actually can because they need to spend more money in their everyday lives, as they have a better income and this makes the prices go up.^^

Sophistry aside, I think it's not correct to make people spend 10000 Yen for a single game. Anyways, I can't be sure, but I suppose it's not all producers' fault. Just compare the prices for the same game in the hard copy version and in the digital version. Yeah, it's normal that the hard copy will be more expensive, but you can see a difference way too exaggerated between the two prices. Look, I did a quick search within the database, searching the word "download" in releases and the first game you'll see is "1/2 Blood" (I've never heard of it, so I can't tell if it's a good game or not). Now, the hard copy (released on day 2003-06-13) costs on Amazon ¥ 8,190 (73.13€, on Amazon discounted down to ¥ 6,710, 59.91€). The same game in download version (released on day 2010-05-11) is 2,940円 (26.25€) on dlsite.
Why is there a difference of 8,190 - 2,940 = 5250 Yen (46.88€) between the older version and the new one? If the producer can survive selling the game "only" 2,940 Yen (partially shared with the download site), I think there must be a reason that makes the price of the hard copy way more expensive. I'd like to know what the reason is... I'm pretty sure that "this reason" is not related to the producer itself.
#121 by soketsu
2011-07-17 at 04:22
< report >The bottom line here is money.
If you don't have money, you won't see uncensored pu**ies... I mean, buy Koihime.
Money is the global language. When money speaks, everybody listen.
... and my words are nonsense because I have no money.
#122 by tthammy
2011-07-17 at 12:50
< report >wait !! are you telling me hmm uncensored if you buy???? *blood nose* O.O
#123 by justinizhere
2011-07-17 at 16:47
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If you don't have money, you won't see uncensored pu**ies

i was gonna say something...till i saw the last line xD

oh how i want SKM >_>Last modified on 2011-07-17 at 16:48
#124 by mateka
2011-07-17 at 22:27
< report >I wish Mangagamer would sell their VNs DRM free like GoG does with their stuff. (Though it will probably never happen)
#125 by justinizhere
2011-07-17 at 22:33
< report >iv never understood the reason behind DRM...they get cracked within a day of it finding its way to the internet....