|#1 by ᔕᕼᖇOOᗰᒪOᖇᗪ⭐|
2019-05-14 at 10:04
|< report >I just finished it and realized some of the questions went unanswered. Took to google and found this post link which brings up all the stuff I was interested in. So based on that:|
1. What was it they saw in the hidden room?
You wouldn't believe how frustrated I got when they cut the scene and left it unanswered. But anyway, Sayuri's remains sounds about right. I'm satisfied with that theory. It was clearly something fairly shocking.
2. Who the hell hit Yuzuriha? And why?
This is the one I really wanted a clear answer to but it may be hardest one to answer of them all. So it arguably stands between Mayuri and Iberis (not sure about the romajization here). And I'm leaning towards Mayuri, seeing as Yuzuriha told -Souh- to tell the perp that she hadn't forgotten about it. But that still doesn't answer WHY she did it. Did I miss or forget something?
3. Why did Yuzuriha and Nerine help trying to stop Suoh from finding out the truth?
Well they left the school without telling anyone including Dahlia so it must've been part of some deal to set them "free" so to speak. I'm fine with leaving it at that, though I'd still be interested in the specifics.
Given all this, does anyone have any further insights or ideas? Maybe there are even official explanations around that I'm not aware of?
I'm gonna end with saying that I found the reason for Mayuri's disappearance weak af and I absolutely hated it. There are so many ways to punch a hole in it. Sigh.
Anyway, thanks for your time. 😉
|#2 by minar-kyun|
2019-08-22 at 02:09
|< report >Can you fully spoil it for me? I just want to know the reason why Mayuri disappeared. |
Also does the fourth game have a good ending where Mayuri and Suoh ends up together? Or is the ending bittersweet again?
|#3 by danteas|
2019-08-22 at 04:03
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|#4 by ᔕᕼᖇOOᗰᒪOᖇᗪ⭐|
2019-08-31 at 10:32
|< report >I can give you the gist of it. Mayuri is playing the part of a long-since dead girl to the benefit of a demented old lady on Dahlia's behalf. She's not far away from the school. Letting your lover cruelly suffer to do something like that sounds totally legit, right?|
There's an ending where they end up together and there's a bittersweet ending as well.
|#5 by Mutsuki|
2019-11-06 at 01:49
|< report >#1 is completely right about the true ending. It's a weak ending to a series which has great cliffhanger endings (including the Mayuri end in this game) that really make you want to read the next game. I think that's all they could do, they can only hype things up, but when it comes to solving all the shit they've piled up, they're no good at it.|
also unrelated note: i literally only realised there were videos in this series when the game ended sharply and unnaturally during the grand ending. had to extract the video files from all four games from their archives and watch them in windows media player fml. does anyone know what codec you need to watch them (the help files included with the game are the most useless things i've read- they just tell you to use windows update wtf)Last modified on 2019-11-06 at 01:59
|#6 by bwerafdgsdgh|
2020-01-19 at 09:34
|< report >>1. What was it they saw in the hidden room?|
the corpse theory is confirmed in the interview
>2. Who the hell hit Yuzuriha? And why?
refer to extra ep 07 of the artbook Couleur, the theory in the blog you linked is correct.
>I found the reason for Mayuri's disappearance weak af
ya her motivation is only very weakly explored, a few vague lines here and there from her pov. extremely unsatisfying
|#7 by ᔕᕼᖇOOᗰᒪOᖇᗪ⭐|
2020-01-19 at 22:33
|< report >#6|
Thank you! That's the kind of stuff I was hoping someone would provide.
|#9 by vorathiel|
2022-06-23 at 01:02
|< report >Excuse me - Sayuris' corpse? Can somebody explain why the hell was it there?|
That whole room plot was more or less pointless, wasn't it? It did not bring them closer to finding Mayuri.
|#10 by ichigo69|
2022-06-23 at 23:55
|< report >The Niconico douga link that #1 posted is 404'd. Are all the contents covered in this topic?|
|#11 by ᔕᕼᖇOOᗰᒪOᖇᗪ⭐|
2022-06-24 at 06:53
|< report >It's been 3 years but IIRC: no. It was fairly extensive and full of theories, even diving into motivations of characters never actually seen in-game. I think they relied on official outside-game sources for some things but in the end (and again, IIRC) they were almost all just theories. Fun read though.|
Unrelated. I see now I may seem negative in my previous comments so just wanna say that I obviously very much enjoyed the series as a whole.
|#12 by florete|
2022-06-24 at 11:01
|< report >1. My guess was also Sayuri's remains, or some confirmation of her suicide. But then, why would a corpse just be left there in the room? They decide to just leave that room as her tomb?|
2. At the end of Hiver Yuzuriha tells Suoh it was a Basquiat who konked her back in Spring (at least that's what the English version says), so I assumed it was Dalia. I guess, technically, she could have been referring to Mayuri (since Mayuri had been posing as Sion Basquiat), but that would be weird. And no idea why, of course. What's this theory?
3. Yeah I kind of figured this wasn't going to be explained. I think the truest answer is, "So they can be involved somehow, because they were in the previous volumes."
4. Who konked Dalia in Summer? Mayuri? Why?
5. The #1 most important question of all: What did the Valentine's letter Suoh received say?
All-in-all, after Automne I had a feeling Hiver wouldn't manage to live up to all the suspense they were putting on it. Perhaps because of those tempered expectations I wasn't too bothered by...well, all the weird and unexplained stuff.
That said, I still love the series as a whole. Ete remains my favorite, but it's bittersweet knowing it's all over.
|#13 by hebwig|
2022-06-26 at 02:56
|< report >1. i think the vn didn't do too great of a job of clarifying that it was sayuri and that it was her remains along with the suicide (as suoh mentions that she takes "the worst path/means of death" (or something along the lines of that)) but yeah...it didn't make too much sense why she was down there. for #9, i think she was there to build reasoning on why yuzuriha and nerine didn't want suoh to find out anything more, not for advancing into the search for mayuri|
2. i'm sure you probably figured this out by now but it was a basquiat, as for a response to #12: it probably wasn't mayuri who did it as the feast of assumption hadn't taken place yet (if i'm not wrong...it's been a while since i've read printemps). my theory on this is that dalia probably did do it (which is maybe the real reason why dalia was guilty after suoh had proven mayuri innocent?) & that yuzuriha didn't want to confirm this in front of dalia. obviously the extra episode in couleur might say something different but idk as i dont have it translated/can't read jp :-(
3. this ties back to the first question...i probably think it was because yuzuriha & nerine had found sayuri's remains before and they didn't want suoh seeing a dead body. that's probably about the darkest thing that happens in all of flowers so it's not all too shocking that they would try to stop suoh from seeing something like that (especially since they still do care about her at this point).
as for #12:
4. no clue lol, flowers did a good job wrapping up most of the main mystery but things like that were really out of the blue & forever unexplained. i wish i could give a better answer...
5. LOL probably something akin to a confession considering suoh is called "the most popular girl in school" at this point in the story
i read this discussion before the english version was released & was a little nervous for how hiver would wrap things up with the mention of mayuri's motivation being weak, but i think it actually makes sense (at least it does in the eng version...). mayuri didn't have the best situation outside of the academy with her mother and with the caregiver she fell in love with and she probably sought mother elder because it was the closest thing she could get to having a real mother. it's really depressing & i think the motivation isn't too weak as i can understand how a desire for that could take priority over love (which would be being with suoh at the academy). of course this whole thing is speculation & maybe just a better way of seeing it (as mayuri only mentions mother elder's motherly care once toward the monologue at the ending). i didn't think it was too unsatisfying as giving it a little thought outside of mayuri's few lines was enough of an explanation / sensical
but yeah i'm not really disappointed at all with this volume...i really adore flowers & looked forward to seeing each character as the seasons progressed. #12, ete is also my favorite & i can sympathize with the series ending feeling very bittersweet. really really nice story
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