A good eroge-RPG?

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#1 by norwegianboyee
2019-05-17 at 20:16
I haven't played many games that mix romance with gameplay elements. So i want to know if you guys got any recommendations for the best titles in this genre.
I have played only Yumina the Ethereal. What i noticed with this title is that the story, slice of life and rpg elements are quite good, yet the romance and erotic scenes are kinda underwhelming. So i'm wondering if anyone knows of a game that has RPG elements but also some good romantic development and not bad in the lewdness department either. (Not nukige-RPG without romantic development)
#2 by bobjr2000
2019-05-17 at 20:53
Only titles come to mind are these.

Eiyuu*Senki/GOLD- Its lacking in romance but both have long story and rpg building of characters with small armies. Its not bad for what it is and closest thing comes to mind.

Hibiki Works the lovely series is mostly romance good amount of sex with a small building aspect of stats of MC. Lesser on the rpg element but does it have stat building.
#3 by sanahtlig
2019-05-17 at 21:01
Try Venus Blood -Hypno-. It has a good combo of story, gameplay, romance, and ero. You could probably substitute just about any of Ninetail's major releases in there. You could also check out my Review of Venus Blood Gaia.Last modified on 2019-05-17 at 21:04
#4 by matty123
2019-05-17 at 21:20
You could try Eien no Aselia through the only translated version is all ages but the sequel Seinarukana is 18+ and translated the game play felt really similar to Yumina the Ethereal.

Kamidori Alchemy Meister is pretty good for a playthrough or two as well and the game play is pretty fun.

Daibanchou Big Bang Age has pretty good gameplay as well and is really similar to Sengoku Rance's gameplay {also worth playing}

Also Rance games and Evinicle are probably also worth checking out.Last modified on 2019-05-17 at 22:31
#5 by norwegianboyee
2019-05-17 at 21:37
Oh, thanks for the quick replies!
I looked at the VNDB page for most of these. And i think i might give Kamidori Alchemy Meister a try. That one feels like what i'm looking for.

I also might try some of the other games eventually. And i want to comment to sanahtlig that the games you suggested look pretty good in tags and story... But the cover art is a little deceiving. Makes you think it's just a boring nukige or something. If you didn't tell me to check it out i probably wouldn't even bother looking past the cover art, yet it seems to actually be interesting storywise... Idk, just something that bothered me a bit.Last modified on 2019-05-17 at 21:37
#6 by jikorde
2019-05-17 at 23:48
Brave Soul is still something I consider a classic of the genre. The romance is completely optional, but there's a decent amount of it. H isn't that great though.Last modified on 2019-05-17 at 23:49
#7 by sanahtlig
2019-05-18 at 00:37
The VB games devote most of their CG to H-scenes. Even so, most of the H-scenes are optional scenes related to corruption. The corruption is a series selling point, so I suppose that's why the covers emphasize it. For the English Kickstarter they were obligated to make a cover with a different focus.
#8 by kiru
2019-05-18 at 07:27
The problem is, that this site only really lists VNs. If you don't mind to go with something that's actually a good dungeon crawler with an interesting enough story, though I don't think there's much romance: Evening Starter
I haven't beaten it yet but it looks like you only need to sell your body if you really want it, so a virgin run for MC may be possible.

The gameplay really shines here, even though it's made with rpg-maker. What I like especially is how affordable and useful items generally are. Even TP healing items, that most rpgs don't even sell you or if they do maybe late or super expensively. Here you are limited by amount you can carry per dungeon visit. You are also given good reason to invest into that stuff, as you do have a debt to pay and every week some money is taken away from you. Not a lot, but enough to justify staying longer in the dungeon per day thanks to items.
Characters have skill-trees and behave fairly uniquely, plenty of elements for spells/items, you got guns with bullets (again, bullets aren't free) and get several ways to shoot. (i.e. A Shotgun may utilize one bullet to hit all enemies. I equipped a supplement to it, to also allow it to target a single target for burst fire damage. An SMG can shoot up to 10 bullets at a single target, but aim might be a problem. And so on) It's nice. You can also punch, which some characters are actually good at. Status ailments, protection against that, buffs, debuffs and all that also exists.

The story borrows a lot of occult stuff and includes Yakuza groups and more. In fact, MC kinda belongs to one. She is generally fun enough and gives a good opposite to the otherwise rather serious story. The English translation is also surprisingly good. It's definitely a little more on the deeper end, when it comes to this stuff. (hardboiled of sorts) But as far as I've played so far, it's actually GOOD. REALLY good, actually. I only played it for one session though. (2 major dungeons) Seems not too long either, from that.

It's kinda sad, but most of the stuff on this site won't be able to compete in terms of gameplay. Especially stuff like Aselia is just plain bad. You play it for the story. That's it. Eushully stuff is generally very... complicated. Usually there are good ideas and then it's badly executed with a WHOLE LOT of silly grind. Kamidori is exactly that. It's not really a good game, but I guess it's playable enough. The best I know is stuff from Alice Soft really, but stuff like Rance isn't really romance either. Blade Briders is a very good s-rpg, and could fit, but JP only. So yeah, it's a little hard.Last modified on 2019-05-18 at 07:32
#9 by surferdude
2019-05-18 at 23:51
Try Farland Symphony. No ero though, but quite good otherwise. And it's in English.
#10 by enuofh
2019-05-19 at 04:06
Utawarerumono and tears to tiara arent a bad choice i think, but i feel kinda mad at aquaplus for becoming a heretic and now their new tears to tiara and Utawarerumono being only for console and without the ero stuff

There isnt much eroge-RPG that really shines out there at least that i know, but you can hope just like me that one day they will realize that they can actually a full rpg-eroge with an overall good content of gameplay,plot,romance and cgs if they want to but sadly i dont see it happening
#11 by ramaladni
2019-05-19 at 06:36
Unironically a difficult recommendation to make, as evidenced by how people have mostly failed to fulfill your request. There aren't that many games that are successful on all four fronts (gameplay, story, romance and ero content). This isn't an H-RPG database either, but dlsite H-RPGs are mostly nukige either way...This is because sex itself ends up becoming a gameplay element.

Many of it also depends on your ability to read Japanese, but it seems not to be a problem for you. Companies like Eushully and Alicesoft tend to make the best RPG/VN hybrids, but all the heroines end up being complete sluts.

My judgement on the recommendations above:

Eiyuu Senki - beautiful art wasted on a boring game, both in terms of gameplay and story.

Eien no Aselia - no H content (translated, the scenes suck anyway) and gameplay hasn't aged well, romance isn't the focus either but it has a decent story. I'd recommend doing one or two playthroughs at most.

Kamidori Alchemy Meister - simple but addictive gameplay that resembles Fire Emblem games, there's also character routes with romance development that work since they conveniently ignore the fact that you're sleeping with ten other women. Overall plain story and protagonist.

Evenicle - crappy gameplay, overly edgy and fails completely when it comes to romance. Good comedy, pretty good banter between characters and beautiful art.

Brave Soul - great game especially because of how it lets you pick a difficulty mode right off the bat, but it has low H. I'd say it's worth checking out.

Utawarerumono - known for having some of the worst erotic content and the gameplay is quite better on the PS2. Pretty good story though.

Tears to Tiara - terrible characters, terrible gameplay and terrible ero. Story gets somewhat interesting in the later chapters, but it's not worth the journey.

Venus Blood games - these are pretty good if you're up to the challenge, but I guess that's what Normal mode is for. This is probably the closest to what you're looking for, if you enjoy this type of H content I guess.

For my own recommendations:

Soukoku no Arterial - fun gameplay you probably won't find anywhere else, awesome characters and cool story as long as you skip around the slice of life events. Not a fan of the H content, but if you do like it, there's plenty of it. More of a story/gameplay focused game than romance though.

I am Your Guignol - for one of the most atmospheric NTRge on the market, with simple but challenging gameplay. Lovable heroine and also heartbreaking. I recommend naming the protagonist after your real life name like I did.

And uh...that's it. Most H-RPGs are nukige or pay very little attention to romance. Most good games have little or no H-content at all. That's just how things are.Last modified on 2019-05-19 at 09:13
#12 by surferdude
2019-05-19 at 20:51
How about Castle Fantasia ~Seima Taisen~ and Men at Work! 2 ~Hunter Academy e Youkoso~?

What do you guys think about those?
#13 by sanahtlig
2019-05-19 at 21:07
Studio Ego / Debonosu's games are generally pretty vapid story-wise, while the gameplay is decent but unremarkable. Having played both of those games, I'd recommend Kamidori Alchemy Meister over them. I'd recommend them only to existing fans, people who are infatuated with the art-style / HCG, and those who don't mind empty trope-based character banter.Last modified on 2019-05-19 at 21:09
#14 by ramaladni
2019-05-19 at 21:18
I liked Castle Fantasia since it referenced real military tactics and strategies, and most likely real life events as well. It's a sort of charming medieval fantasy tale in a way and I like Howie, the intelligent tactician type of protagonist. There's two main paths, but expect burnout if you try to aim for every single heroine (which is definitely not necessary, very low implication story-wise). It has an old-school (invisible) affection points system.

It's interesting, but pretty much decent at best - like sanah said, I only played it since I was trying to check out every translated JRPG/VN hybrid out there. The gameplay is simple and the H scenes are short, pretty low in number and come quite late in the game. In the other hand, there are no useless H scenes or the typical harem antics.

Definitely not a standout, since Utawarerumono is pretty much this game but three times better. Hard to recommend with better games out there, but it's worth knowing it at least exists I guess.

I assume Men at Work is similar in feeling, but I haven't played it yet.Last modified on 2019-05-19 at 21:21
#15 by artumis
2019-05-20 at 03:10
#11 Covered the situation fairly well. It's nearly impossible to think of a title that hits all of those points by by default. However, you might have some decent luck if you scale things back to Gameplay and Story, and factor in if the game allows you to do 'Pure' playthroughs. That's something that can make the more Nukige RPGs more enjoyable compared to the ones where sex game mechanics are always in your face. Even if you don't do a pure playthrough, the scenes are optional enough that you can pursue the sub-stories/quests that interest you. Some of them even have difficulty options which can make the gameplay a bit more meaningful.

In general, I'd say that the more Romance mechanics a title has the less H rewards it will give you, so the real key is figuring out how much RPG and Romance is important to you. Substitute Romance with Relationship Building and there's a decent selection of solid games but with only ecchi content at best as opposed to being full hentai. Stuff like the Nosurge/Tonelico series of RPGs or perhaps Sakura Wars. Those are more VN oriented RPGs but you're only really going to find suggestive themes.
#16 by ramaladni
2019-05-28 at 12:55
I'm going to hijack this thread to talk about the game shilled by #8, Evening Starter. For once, I actually decided to try out a random recommendation and it turned out that the game is...quite decent. I had quite some fun with it.

What really keeps me immersed in the setting is the atmosphere. The author is pretty thorough when it comes to describing the different C'thulu mythos creatures and lore, also the music is awesome.

I've played several dungeon crawlers (Megami Tensei series, Etrian Odyssey), so I'm pretty spoiled in that regard. I'd say Evening Starter is pretty decent. I did feel that once I found an optimal strategy, it didn't make much sense to deviate from it, even on Hard mode.

If I had to point out any flaws, it'd be that Normal mode eventually feels too easy, and Hard mode while giving an added challenge, feels like quite the drag, since the enemies essentially have their HP doubled. I would recommend starting out on Normal mode and changing to Hard mode later on, because it's not that fun when you can literally two-shot bosses with certain setups. While initially fun, the gameplay gets a bit stale later on. There'd be some more variety if I opted to use the mage character, but her spells were simply too weak.

I'm not a fan of the H-scenes either, and you could say the writing is downright atrocious at times. At least they're pretty short, 2-3 minutes long at most. I also like that you can skip 70% of the games H-scenes by not whoring yourself out, but...

It's nearly or completely impossible to do a virgin run. This is because paying your 2M debt is extremely difficult without prostituting yourself. While I did waste money on upgrading equipment for every character, including special weapons (50K x 4 =200K), I was nowhere even close. I fully explored every single dungeon and still had about 800K debt remaining by the end of the game. You can avoid prostituting yourself/making videos, but on the ending it's implied that Ren is making videos to pay off her debt, even if you don't get to see a H-scene. Maybe it's meant for a second playthrough? Eh.

The translation isn't without fault, however it's a free fan translation, made by a single individual. It could've used some editing or QC here and there, but it's quite decent overall, and quite good for a H-RPG.

Overall I do recommend this game if the hardboiled/yakuza/c'thulu mythos setting seems to be appealing for you, and if you're into dungeon crawlers. My favorite part was probably the ending sequence, even though the final boss battle was kinda meh by itself.

#15 I was going to recommend the Galaxy Angel trilogy despite there being no sexual or suggestive content. Wouldn't recommend trying to clear all the routes though, unless you have save datas so you can skip around the battles.Last modified on 2019-05-28 at 13:10
#17 by ffthewinner
2019-05-28 at 15:54
Big Bang Age is extremely good. it is an SRPG though.
#18 by roadi
2019-05-29 at 18:53
Dual Tail / Ninetail games are likely to be closest to what you are looking for, especially Venus Blood -Hypno-.

Shikigami is not exactly an RPG, but otherwise it has most of the required elements.
I'd say its popularity is somewhat less than it deserves.
#19 by eltonan
2019-06-02 at 03:11
Surprised no-one mentioned any Seiha titles. Their games are decent, if not super complex when compared to other companies.Last modified on 2019-06-02 at 03:11
#20 by ramaladni
2019-06-02 at 03:37
Who are Seiha?
#21 by roadi
2019-06-02 at 04:28
You mean SofthouseChara?
Seiha is just a translator group.
#22 by kiru
2019-06-02 at 07:25
@16: I didn't like the endgame of the game that much either. That said, you can get rid of another massive load of the debt, if you go back from the final dungeon, once you found a certain thing and show it to the yakuza. Takes a few days till you get paid. It wasn't close to enough for me, even though I did only buy one of the special weapons, but I might've missed something as I always cleared dungeons in one go.

That said if you REALLY wanted it, you could do a virgin run. NG blind virgin run is badly done in that game though. The ending you get, with debt still remaining, is completely nonsensical. But alas, strong first showing, but in the end it's all a little meh. Gameplay-wise as well, unfortunately. (rather lame last dungeon, last boss and so on) It definitely tried though, and isn't a bad way to spend 10-15 hours.Last modified on 2019-06-02 at 07:26
#23 by ramaladni
2019-06-02 at 07:36
I actually checked out the Good Ending with a save file because I sure as hell wasn't play it all over again. It wasn't anything special, so I don't feel bad for cheating.

That's kind of deceiving. It's impossible to get the good ending on your first try while keeping your virginity and even on NG+...it'll be difficult. Funny story, I restarted the game on Very Hard and couldn't get past the first fight. I literally couldn't do anything - the enemies couldn't kill me, and I couldn't kill them because they kept outhealing my damage. My only choice was to...close the game. Never again.

The way you handle the last boss fight is completely anti-climatic. I was actually trying my hardest to kill him until I realized that...yeah.

Wouldn't have minded it were a few hours shorter either, since it was starting to overstay its welcome. It's still a quite decent H-RPG and I'd sort of recommend it to those who can stomach dungeon crawling.Last modified on 2019-06-02 at 07:45
#24 by eltonan
2019-06-02 at 11:46
@21 Oh yeah I meant SofthouseChara. My bad. Was remembering off the top of my head and got it wrong.Last modified on 2019-06-02 at 11:47
#25 by kiru
2019-06-02 at 12:11
@23: You can beat it, it's better to run away first and get the bombs. Keep in mind it's made for ng+ with your old level though and you have a lot of skill point you need to set again. MC can act twice and rip them apart rather fast, especially with the help of the bombs and her ultimate poison skill + poison amp. If you don't mind slow.. you do get a Shotgun. Two shots per turn outdamage their heal as well, it just takes a while.

It's not particularly hard. That said, it's kinda cute that you can also kill them without the bombs and the scene being a little different. In the end nothing changes though.Last modified on 2019-06-02 at 12:14


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