Wouldn't be cool if a chat would be implemented?

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#26 by kiru
2019-09-04 at 09:55
Isn't IRC still used by twitch chat and so on? The point is: If you wanna have a chat, it needs to be "at the site". It can be IRC or whatever else under the online client. Few use desktop IRC clients nowadays, let alone ones for their phone.
#27 by yorhel
2019-09-04 at 10:00
My point is, integration and convenience are not a prerequisite to having a useful chat room (or for any feature whatsoever), if there is enough demand there will be people who don't mind the additional hurdle. Hence my conclusion: there is not enough demand.

(I mean, sure, I know it's possible to create a successful VNDB chat when done with proper convenience and advertising, but that seems more like a matter of *creating* demand)
#28 by sakurakoi
2019-09-04 at 10:25
if there is enough demand there will be people who don't mind the additional hurdle.
the point is, that there'll be less. It is not binary "demand, no demand" but in between include indeed "Nice to have" and "Don't wanna bother".

Convenience does not create demand, advertising does but I don't think anyone expects that, if not even vilifies it.

Before talking about just "use" and "success", it is important to note what one even expects, what makes it successful, useful, not a failure. But welp, like I already said... I can't find very much use in those anyway when there is another feature already which makes one able to write to each other.

In any event, I don't disagree that there is not enough "demand" (possible participation) to make it remotely used enough to justify the effort put into it even by not-my-standards. More convenience would after all also mean more effort.
#29 by lucumo
2019-09-04 at 12:15
@26 Yep, Twitch has its own, heavily hacked, IRC server. But even without that, it's still decently popular. Most are long-time users and have as such a good amount of knowledge in their respective field (whatever the channel is about). Of course, there are also new users occasionally, the majority does come from web clients though and some eventually make the jump to dedicated clients.

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