VNDB 2.19: Building Character

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#26 by sazabi
2011-03-31 at 08:59
< report >cool , more characters, there was only one character when the update was made
#27 by shakarr
2011-03-31 at 09:21
< report >Well i hope that users will be able to add characters themselves sometime soon.Also I think it would be nice if characters were categorized by vn when they start to grow in numbers. Anyway I'm happy that this site is serving something new from time to time. Good job
#28 by nachtwandler
2011-03-31 at 21:44
< report >So. For now only moderators could add characters? No suggestions from users?

Now we only thing needed - private tops odf VN's and chars ). Hope sometime in future it would be madeLast modified on 2011-03-31 at 21:46
#29 by mateka
2011-03-31 at 23:24
< report >good job as alwaysLast modified on 2011-03-31 at 23:24
#30 by adhinferno
2011-04-01 at 01:56
< report >Finally, VN Character database is implemented.... Good Job, Yorhel~! Hehehehe!
Btw, someone! Please add Yuko Amamiya (v88) & Hayami Kohinata (v473)! They are the two who I loves! Pretty Please~Last modified on 2011-04-01 at 02:13
#31 by kiseki-yamihana
2011-04-01 at 02:23
< report >Humph (-' . '-) ~! I hope we can add the character we want as soon as posssible. Nice work, Yorhel~! <giggle>
#32 by argilium
2011-04-01 at 04:07
< report >I wish we could add characters or edit them as soon as possible.. I have the sprite rips of the games I played.. also, why not add a voice actor field in the entries.. we don't have to make another database about that now but seeing them in entries helps especially when you can refer to other databases..
#33 by yorhel
2011-04-01 at 06:20
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why not add a voice actor field in the entries.. we don't have to make another database about that now but seeing them in entries helps especially when you can refer to other databases..
I'd rather do something right the first time than add all kinds of temporary fields and try to convert them to a new system afterwards. I'm taking my sweet time on this. :-)

And I'm planning to keep the character database in the current mod-only beta for a while. There are still several things that need to be improved before I can confidently say it won't bring down VNDB or won't become a total mess.
#34 by saberger
2011-04-01 at 19:56
< report >I am just curious.... How can we know the 3 sizes of female characters?
#35 by yorhel
2011-04-01 at 19:58
< report >Measure them?
#36 by echomateria
2011-04-01 at 20:27
< report >Yorhel experimented with it on VNDB beta while designing it, and now we mods are experimenting with it on the VNDB actual while taking notes about the bugs and features that needs improving at the first opportunity.

Also we are making the first set of character entries, so later users can use them as examples, templates if you prefer.

As a part of the initial preparations this week I created 440+ traits and made entries of the Fate/stay night characters (beware spoilers).

Later I'll post some guides on how to easily grab the character images, it's way easier that you imagine, really. And also a guideline for making traits as well.

I hope everyone enjoys using this feature as much as I do.
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#38 by mellorinesan
2011-04-02 at 00:31
< report >Awesome! I love to help My Anime List, so I hope you guys let us add characters soon! Ty so much, great idea!
#39 by saberger
2011-04-02 at 00:40
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keep the character database in the current mod-only beta for a while

A late comment, but yeah, better to keep them as mod-only feature (though I imagine that the mods will have more things to do :P)
#40 by argilium
2011-04-02 at 02:16
< report >after you have allowed the users to add, will there be a feature that makes the information to be displayed only when a mod allows it? because we wouldn't want erroneous, vague, or spoilerful information, right?
#41 by echomateria
2011-04-02 at 08:01
< report >You'll notice that our current characters database does not have character relations at this stage. But have no fear! We have one in the works. Our current plan will involve using Role traits to name the kinds of connection between characters, so if you notice some traits in the Role trait group that sound a bit off, or useless, they are there for this future use.

argilium wrote:
after you have allowed the users to add, will there be a feature that makes the information to be displayed only when a mod allows it? because we wouldn't want erroneous, vague, or spoilerful information, right?
3.7. Site-wide changes
4. Moderated edit system (rather than open, as it is now)
Changes made by relatively new users will be moderated, when a user has made enough good changes, (s)he will be able to do so without needing moderation.
This willl come some time later I'm afraid...

EDIT by yorhel: [quote], not [code]. :-)Last modified on 2011-04-02 at 09:29
#42 by serialies
2011-04-03 at 01:23
< report >sexcellent

althought, would it be possible to allow for more than one picture for a particular character? if it's distinct enough i mean

eg c39
IMO, would be good to have a picture of rider from F/HA given that it's quite different from F/SN.

and for in the future, eg when sumika from muv-luv gets added, you got school sumika, and armored sumika.

side note:
"Rider. Engages in: Riding"
thought it was funny
#43 by pioneer
2011-04-03 at 03:23
< report >Whoa, look at the number of Cokes you've drunk... it'll be bad for your body, but /meh like the idea of self-intoxication thought :P
#44 by subaru
2011-04-03 at 07:22
< report >Hmm.. I would put "Sexual" for characters into spoiler...
#45 by echomateria
2011-04-03 at 20:23
< report >serialies wrote:
IMO, would be good to have a picture of rider from F/HA given that it's quite different from F/SN.

and for in the future, eg when sumika from muv-luv gets added, you got school sumika, and armored sumika.
side note:
"Rider. Engages in: Riding"
thought it was funny
Both of those would qualify for new instances of the characters.
Not just because they are dressed in a different fashion but because they are (F/sn and Muv-luv spoiler:) considerably different characters as well. Those that have finished F/sn and wondering "what an instance of a character is?" can check the Matou Sakura entry.

side note: yea, I had a laugh while adding that. :)

subaru wrote:
Hmm.. I would put "Sexual" for characters into spoiler...
Our traits have a "Indicates sexual content" checkbox for the ability to hide them if a user wishes so. Though this function doesn't work at the moment, it is going to... sometime soon.

Database spoiler: Yorhel made a mini-update this weekend. On the Development roadmap 2. Next version (2.20), the stuff marked with (done) are already online. You didn't hear this from me.
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#47 by adhinferno
2011-04-05 at 01:51
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I am just curious.... How can we know the 3 sizes of female characters?
You know, some people in this world has a very excellent level of imagination. They can imagine the female characters standing in front of them, and then.... All they need is take a measure tape and measure their bodies. Hehehehe~!Last modified on 2011-04-05 at 01:53
#48 by rintohsaka
2011-04-05 at 05:24
< report >So... in other news, when are we adding Android to the platform list?

*cough*link*cough*Last modified on 2011-04-05 at 05:25
#49 by saberger
2011-04-05 at 13:26
< report >I see that echomateria added Saya in the database, shouldn't we also have the image of Slime Saya

About the instance, should we added the "spolier" function to character's images or the characters themselves, not just the description?

Like if you know that Dark Sakura is one of the character in F/SN, then you also know that she will appear and become twisted. Isn't the whole thing a spoiler itself? The same can be applied for, maybe Sumika in MLALast modified on 2011-04-05 at 13:32
#50 by yorhel
2011-04-05 at 13:37
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I see that echomateria added Saya in the database, shouldn't we also have the image of Slime Saya
Dunno, we can make it an instance, but I'm not sure it's all that important.

About the instance, should we added the "spolier" function to character's images or the characters themselves, not just the description?
Spoilers can be added with the char<->vn link (to avoid showing a char on the related VN page). I think that should be enough when combined with the instances system.