[SPOILER] VERY CAREFUL

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#1 by thanhdogau
2019-10-03 at 07:14
< report >Careful, this is a Horror game.
Don't let the cute characters fool you.Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 05:39
#2 by ramaladni
2019-10-03 at 07:53
< report >Thanks, couldn't tell from the description nor the tags.
#3 by sakurakoi
2019-10-03 at 08:03
< report >So... why is there no one using the Horror tag then?

Probably because it actually does not "frighten, scare, disgust, or startle its readers" (in the traditional sense, the disgust) but it is simply suspense&mystery like stated~Last modified on 2019-10-03 at 08:03
#4 by warfoki
2019-10-03 at 08:23
< report >Ehh, to be fair the tag not being there doesn't necessary means that it shouldn't be there, it's entirely possible that people just never bothered to tag it, especially with titles as new as this one.
#5 by sakurakoi
2019-10-03 at 08:37
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to be fair the tag
the genre, and like said, probably and the probability is basically based on the following:

Genre tend to be thought of first and foremost while there is more reason to doubt this thread than trust it. I.e for credibility the OP would actually use the tag system (to actually also indicate the degree of horror), would actually give verifiable examples or at least could be more active to built credibility otherwise. "Don't let the cute characters [but me with nothing but a statement~] fool you."

Especially one would consider a standard genre like Horror over the genre element Suspense (which can be part of the Horror, Thriller and Mystery genre but does not make them).

Just saying that a 3.0 Horror tag would be more credible, and actually also more visible (not to mention useful), than this thread~
#6 by kurosakijin
2019-10-18 at 01:00
< report >The OP is cute yes it is horror but not that much
#7 by mutsuki
2019-10-18 at 02:10
< report >sounds like a nice fat spoiler to me

nice job
#8 by eacil
2019-10-18 at 02:31
< report >Yeah, that pisses me off so much that there is no moderation for such threads where the spoiler is directly in the fucking title. Mor... People who do that because they feel they are doing us a favor pisses me off even more, tremendously.
That's why I stick to the Recent Posts box because you don't see what VN the thread is linked to and so, even if one of those "Netorare?" thread pops up in front of you, you can avoid to know what is the VN it is talking about.
#9 by tomtheerogeman
2019-10-18 at 03:46
< report >What if it's like Madoka Magica, where it looked like another moe anime at first but by now everyone knows it's something totally different? I don't think revealing the "real genre," is a spoiler in and of itself, because that'll ruin it for the people who only wanted a cute VN.
#10 by eacil
2019-10-18 at 04:01
< report >Oh my god I hate people like you who think "genre switch" is not a spoiler and is bad because it's deception! The hell! What about you ruin the intention of the author (like the whole purpose of it is to surprise you and take you out of you COCOON!) and ruin it for everyone who is not a fucking snowflake!??

There is no such thing like "everybody knows" (especially with VN), even if it's Star Wars or Harry Potter. At least, thanks to people like you, I will never ever read DDLC because there is no reason anymore (not that there was even one but now I am sure).

/triggered
#11 by vario
2019-10-18 at 04:42
< report >It's the same old Silky's Plus Wasabi's game. Nanairo Reincarnation and Akeiro Kaikitan are a bit spooky too. And there is even a description about gruesome murder.
#12 by sakurakoi
2019-10-18 at 12:04
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(like the whole purpose of it is to surprise you and take you out of you COCOON!)
oh, how noble, except, well... it is not

after all, you basically claim that many can't decide themselves and deliberately so which genre they prefer and avoid, for actual reasons, all while sacrificing the few who might be able to do that

if all a work has going for it is the "surprise" then it sure is shitty in more ways than one

"I hate people that don't want me to be smarter than them"
#13 by mutsuki
2019-10-18 at 12:20
< report >My problem is it just ruins potential plot twist and expectations. I don't even see how anyone could justify that it's not a spoiler. Unlike #9 suggests, if some of the first people to play it (like when the game is under a month old) aren't allowed to fall for it then just who will. Unlike #12, a work doesn't only JUST have to have the surprise going for it, it's just that it ruins the reading when you're going "ah yes this is how the later plot twist is going to affect this" right from the get-go and it just has you waiting for it. It just makes you feel jaded when you're savvy to their tricks.

I can name a good few games that I was going to read, and now I don't really feel like it because people have ruined plot twists for me, just on this site. Is it a crime to ask people to not ruin the experience of reading it?Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 12:21
#14 by sakurakoi
2019-10-18 at 16:11
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a work doesn't only JUST have to have the surprise going for it
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I can name a good few games that I was going to read, and now I don't really feel like it because people have ruined plot twists for me
huh? "Yeah, good works but since they are spoiled goods, I can't enjoy the supposedly splendid journey. I still claim they are good despite actually not really knowing anything besides the twist!"

I seriously love this quote
ruin it for everyone who is not a fucking snowflake
since it is the best example for a pot searching for a kettle ever~

just to underline it:
Is it a crime to ask people to not ruin the experience of reading it?

FYI: People prefer not to be trolled especially after spending money on it. You are not asking for plot points to be obscured but actual genre. And for what? To have those who think they are special to spread their trolling, through trolls. DDLC sure must be making a killing with merchandise now~

all because many ones were like "Hey, give this standard VN a try, it's free and looks good!" and I don't think I have to tell you how it did not improve the image of VNs but will need another try in a few years or so to have an "accessible" (free) work for potential newcomers. KFC sure ain't doing the trick either.
#15 by mutsuki
2019-10-18 at 16:33
< report >#14, I meant (good few) games not good (few games). While your point is still fair, I'm saying that I'm put off from reading it, not that they'd be bad games if I were to play them anyway.

For the people don't like being trolled, I guess each to their own, and I can't really see a way around this problem without one side or the other getting annoyed. I'd still personally say that even if you don't get what you thought you did, all's well that ends well if you enjoyed it. If you didn't enjoy it, though, I can understand why you'd be bitter if you didn't know about it.

I think it'd be reasonable for those who do want the plot/genre twist spoilt to just read the spoiler tags, and those who don't to not. Like sure it sucks that it wasn't there to begin with but someone's gotta get fooled before we know about the twist. If you're playing a new game, then you have to prepare yourself for whatever may come. If you don't want to do that then wait till someone has and has spoiler tagged anything you don't want to see.Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 16:37
#16 by warfoki
2019-10-18 at 16:59
< report >@Eacil: I don't know if the title was changed but it literally says SPOILER in all caps and the title itself is super generic and tells you nothing. Hovering over the title will tell you which game is this thread about. If you got spoiled after clicking it that is solely your fault at this point.

Personally I really, REALLY hate genre switches. I consider it a bait and switch tactic. If I start to watch / read a romance comedy, that's because I want to have some funny, lighthearted entertainment maybe with a pinch of drama, not a fucking Lovecraftian existential horror. One of the main reasons why I don't watch / read stuff as they air but instead I binge them after they are out, because by then the notion of genre switch will be widely known, so I won't get a rude awakening mid-season.Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 16:59
#17 by mutsuki
2019-10-18 at 17:19
< report >#16, I think it was [ SPOILER] HORROR VERY CAREFUL originally, which was more than enough to spoil it without opening the thread. That's why we're salty.Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 17:19
#18 by yorhel
2019-10-18 at 17:28
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I don't know if the title was changed
It was "[HORROR] VERY CAREFUL", I sealthily changed it after eacil's concerns. (Transparent moderation? Not on VNDB! >.> I maybe need to fix my lazyness)

EDIT: If you've a problem with how VNDB is moderated, bring it up elsewhere; No need to derail this thread any further than I just did...Last modified on 2019-10-18 at 17:31
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