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#26 by yorhel
2019-10-12 at 19:37
Alright, username capitalization is back to normal.

You can disable other people rewards?
Uh, yes, so you don't have to see other people's skins, badges or unicode usernames. Only affects you, others will still see it.
#27 by periah250
2019-10-12 at 19:37
#24 ill assume thats what it means....but ill hold out hope this is some bizarre battle royale.
#28 by bobjr2000
2019-10-12 at 19:59
I am not on board unless we get a bloody royale

tôi kratistôi
#29 by ffthewinner
2019-10-13 at 01:22
wow! it is already up to two thirds the first goal! good job VNDB community! this site definitely deserves it :)
#30 by fuukanou
2019-10-13 at 01:33
What happens if you get the $10 reward and then you stop pledging? Reward get revoked? What if you get yourself banned?Last modified on 2019-10-13 at 01:42
#31 by lala7
2019-10-13 at 06:28
so for 11 years you were using your own money to pay the server? that's some dedication here.
#32 by yorhel
2019-10-13 at 10:22
This Patreon is going pretty well so far, many thanks for all the support!

What happens if...
I have a little script to synchronize the Patron list with the database, which I run at least once a day. So if your tier changes, your rewards will be updated accordingly. Banned users can still use their account, the rewards are unaffected.

so for 11 years you were using your own money to pay the server?
Nah, only for the first 4 years or so. Earnings from affiliate links fluctuate a *lot*, but on average have been paying the server bill just fine. t1368

EDIT: I have to say, my announcements from back then were a lot funnier than my more recent announcement style. I'll work on that the next time.Last modified on 2019-10-13 at 10:32
#33 by goldelysium
2019-10-13 at 14:54
Wait a sec. You're dutch? Or belgium? Didn't know that. The rest of the message is expecting you to be from the Netherlands and will not be fully translated. #19 is correct, but if you read the article it looks like you don't have to do "Belastingaangifte" unless it's this:
Woont uw schenker buiten Nederland?
En is hij of zij Nederlander? Dan hoeft u alleen aangifte te doen als hij of zij minder dan 10 jaar geleden buiten Nederland is gaan wonen.

Heeft de schenker een andere nationaliteit? En ging hij of zij minder dan 1 jaar geleden buiten Nederland wonen? Dan moet u ook aangifte doen.
So if someone isn't from the Netherlands the tax agency shouldn't get angry at you.
#34 by vdz
2019-10-13 at 17:09
The € 2.173 thing applies to donations from both Dutch people and people outside The Netherlands. The difference is that donations from non-Dutch people must always be registered in your yearly tax report (belastingaangifte), while donations from Dutch people don't need to be reported unless they're significant enough to be taxed (e.g. if I give someone IRL 100 bucks I don't need to tell the tax agency about that because that would be dumb, but they do want to know you're receiving 20 bucks a month from 10 Americans so they can double-check you're not just selling stuff without charging/paying the appropriate taxes or even sketchier stuff).
#35 by yorhel
2019-10-14 at 10:37
Yup, I'm Dutch. Been looking into it a bit more, the rules you point to regarding donations are very much in our favour, but, in looking for whether I could provide the rewards to donators, I can't for the life of me find their definition of a "schenking", so I can't even be certain whether "accept money to keep the site running" counts as a donation or commercial activity. There's a fairly good article regarding income from Patreon and that's what I've used as a guideline - as in, I included income tax in calculating that ultimate goal of $1600. The article has this scary line, though, and I can't find a thing to dispute it:
[..] voor zover belastingvrij crowdfunding überhaupt mogelijk is onder het huidige recht

And figuring out how to do the Stichting thing properly, as in #19, is unlikely to be worth the hassle - based on others who've attempted to diversify their income, it's likely that Patreon will be by far the most significant source. Doesn't mean I won't provide alternatives, but I won't be spending days to figure out how to do that administratively. And these things can get messy (unlikely to get that bad with the more modest VNDB activities, but still).
#36 by goldelysium
2019-10-14 at 12:38
True enough. I also already was looking into "schenking", but there isn't anything on their site about the definition. Hmm, ok #34.Last modified on 2019-10-14 at 12:38


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