Cups for All Ages

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#26 by sakurakoi
2019-11-03 at 07:43
hiding the gender behind a spoiler is itself also a spoiler
Not if the spoiler is invisible just like for traits and tags (rather than description text which says "Here is spoiler")

edit: While for sex specifically (should have written so) there is again "apparent sex" still listed and when one chooses to spoiler it is revealed next to it. Not few characters have not listed a sex anyway so it is not really a spoiler and only "uncertain"

moar edit: To begin with several age, sex and measurements fields should be implemented just like in other db/wiki which consider time progression and don't see the need for more character instances when the changes or the appearance is too little. E.g link where vndb here should allow for more free typing as well yet make it still searchable.

Implementing flexibility by retaining searchability is a tough job but after all, you are paid now. As much as me actually... yet you don't work 6-10h a day, sometimes on all weekend additionally, on vndb. Yeah, I'm in a company darker than black.Last modified on 2019-11-03 at 07:53
#27 by beliar
2019-11-03 at 10:31
Also, spoilered names? Aliases, I suppose.
Yes, I meant that characters sometimes have other identities that simply cannot be added as aliases, because they are spoilers. Currently we either omit them outright, or add in the description field hidden behind spoilers. Creating a spoilered field under aliases would be an optimal solution.

Not if the spoiler is invisible just like for traits and tags
Gender being invisible is definitely a spoiler in and on itself. On the other hand, if the character entry portrays "apparent sex", which changes to the real sex, when "show spoilers" is enabled, that becomes a non-issue.

Yeah, I'm in a company darker than black.
Ain't you German? I thought you guys have high living standards...
#28 by yorhel
2019-11-03 at 10:45
On the other hand, if the character entry portrays "apparent sex", which changes to the real sex, when "show spoilers" is enabled, that becomes a non-issue.
I'm sure this UI will be a huge success.

Ain't you German?
I've wondered about this before, but how do you seem to know and remember literally everyone's nationality? >.>
#29 by warfoki
2019-11-03 at 11:11
Wait, didn't you chose Beliar based on his CIA connections? I've been misinformed... :P

And you can joke about that linked example, but I for one really think it would be an excellent way to handle surprise trap / futanari characters, because I can tell you that pretty much nobody is making instances just for that.

Like Michelle has futanari under minor spoiler and futanaris are usually treated as "Both" in the gender selection (though that's somewhat inconsistent as well). Nobody is going to make an instance with the exact same image, traits, etc. just to make a different gender. Way, WAAAAY too much effort and would clutter the database with utterly useless instances in the long run. The solution you mocked there would be pretty much perfect for cases like this.Last modified on 2019-11-03 at 11:11
#30 by beliar
2019-11-03 at 11:15
I'm sure this UI will be a huge success.
I love it! ♡♡♡

I've wondered about this before, but how do you seem to know and remember literally everyone's nationality? >.>
If they have mentioned such a thing in a discussion I followed or participated in, I tend to remember that. Though I might be wrong on some accounts. :-P
#31 by eacil
2019-11-03 at 11:58
How do you guys expect him to guide the mob to the right migrants if he doesn't know what is the nationality of who in his neighborhood?
#32 by skorpiondeath
2019-11-03 at 13:27
I'm sure this UI will be a huge success.
It will yorhel. I like it too.
Beside futanari like warfoki suggested there are also games where being female or male is a game plot twist so it becomes imperative to avoid to see the spoiler.

Spoilery example:
Check for example Fujisaki Chihiro it has been inserted correctly as a female and there is no spoiler reference to his male identity. In such cases having a real identity field could be the best option.Last modified on 2019-11-03 at 13:28
#33 by beliar
2019-11-03 at 13:45
@32: God, that particular character probably suffered more edit reversals regarding their sex, than any other trap in the database. They are a prime example why we need a spoiler field for sex.
#34 by skorpiondeath
2019-11-03 at 14:29
@beliar: LOL for "For fuck's sake, check the fucking edit history!" and " No one checks the friggin edit history. This is a spoiler - don't add visible spoilers to the db!"
#35 by barfboy
2019-11-04 at 00:46
I'm going to use 'assigned numbers' 'favorite numbers' and 'seating numbers' as age when it's obviously being used for that purpose.

Examples:
Osanai Sanae
Shimizu Erika
Shidou Riina
Suzuhara Miko

From the sources:
link
and
link
at :30

This is made obvious for characters like
Rindou Kei
who 'wishes her favorite number were 18 but it's still only 12'. That only makes sense if 'favorite number' = age

Edit: What do we do with characters who have a birthday?
Someya Shiiko

should I make her 10 where she starts in the first game or 11 after her birthday in the second?

and for those interested, the youngest characters I know of would be the cats
Chocola
Vanilla

Edit, edit. Oh crap! I read the thread and Yorhel wants 'assigned numbers' and 'favorite numbers' to not be included. Eep. I don't want to give you all more work. Can I just argue that two girls with the same assigned seating can't sit in the same chair? Or that a girl can't have her favorite number 12 when she wishes it were 18? These are obviously their ages. I just don't want to undo it without trying.

Two other questions.

What do we do with ages that are intentionally badly bleeped out?
like
Sakurai Chiharu
where she's jyu...beeb... ni-nensei
Or ages we can work out with math
Asahina Akari
who 9 years ago was in kindergarten making her 14 years old, along with her friends who are 'ni ... beep ... nensei' making them either 2nd year high school students or second year jr high school students and their classmate is 14 so ... yeah. Or
Satou Kanae
who's mother died giving birth to her and who's mother died 13 years ago. You're 13 sweetheart. That's how numbers work. I would like to include those as well.Last modified on 2019-11-04 at 19:29
#36 by saeryen
2019-11-05 at 23:02
I've got an age issue for Destiny Ninja 2's protagonist. Technically she has three canon ages. In one of the Season 1 routes she says she "almost 20," which makes her 19. The Season 1 routes always end with her birthday, which means at the end she's 20, and the Season 2 routes take place 5 years after that, so she's 25 by then.

What should I put? Are dashes allowed (so I could put 19-25)?
#37 by barfboy
2019-11-07 at 02:26
We have the same question. I'm just going with the first age given in the chronological first game they're in.

I'm going to add the ages for Sakurai Shiharu, Akari, and Satou Kanae for now and just go with 10 for Shiiko. It's the simplest solution for now.
#38 by substanceof
2019-11-08 at 13:17
I'd also like to note characters like Tsugumi from Ever17. Even if we get age ranges, setting hers would be a spoiler, and another instance seems like an overkill since even the sprite is same
#39 by zakashi
2019-11-13 at 18:54
About the age field, what if the character becomes older throughout the story? Do i leave the field in blank?

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