Being a VN Fan or in Industry is Suffering

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#1 by NowItsAngeTime
2019-11-18 at 09:49
* Its the most niche set of media among weebs not guaranteed to sell well or most people have even heard of most of them (outside DDLC)

* Being a Japanese company/writer sucks because if you want to write a story you care about, you basically have to insert porn just to make sure you game sells to the people willing to spend big yen

* Being a fantranslator gets you no pay, and if a localization company happens to get the license you're likely screwed unless you get lucky.

* Being a head localization company means you're at the mercy of deadlines, incredibly unhappy fans who hate kickstarters and (lack of) updates, and basically whatever demands JP company wants to throw at you. And you can't talk about anything publicly and risk PR despite the constant demand of updates.

* Being a worker in a localization company gets you very poor pay (varies depending on company apparently), so you're either stuck going full passion project, getting a secondary job, or just finding a better way to support yourself.

* If you're an (original) English Visual Novel Developer, unless you're in the 1% that makes if big (and even then...) you will get shunned/insulted for basically not being developed by a Japanese company.

* English only readers... waits between releases or even TL/Kickstarter/Backerkit updates can be frustrating with little to communication. Learning Japanese for certain releases you really want takes time and effort you may not actually have.

* Japanese only readers...having a much smaller pool of people to get people to read the stuff you like is hard when only a minority of readers can actually read visual novels in Japanese, let alone want to.Last modified on 2019-11-18 at 09:49
#2 by harleyquin
2019-11-18 at 09:53
Don't give a damn of what other people read in Japanese. Japanese players don't frequent English language databases as they have their own channels for discussion. Industry is in recession, but it won't disappear overnight. If the pros won't make the games I'd like to read or play, the doujin scene will cover the gaps.
#3 by altonan
2019-11-18 at 10:07
As bad as all of this is at least we can take solace in the fact that, unlike the videogame industry, VN franchises can't get butchered by greed driven publishers like EA or Blizzard who only care about milking them to make a quick buck by inserting lootboxes and other forms of microtransactions, if only because that sort of business model is impossible to implement in VN's. Unless of course you're the Fate series or that one Taimanin Asagi gatcha spin-off, which then in that case, yes, it is just as bad.
#4 by surferdude
2019-11-18 at 15:00
^ Some VNs still get butchered by having their H content removed for the oh-so-innocent western audience.
#5 by risus
2019-11-18 at 15:11
I like VNs, it is not in recession, there are always doujin groups if some companies will become defunct. Agree with #4.
#6 by kiru
2019-11-18 at 15:12
@3: You do know what Gacha came from, right? VNs where they sell you lootboxes for character with crappy gameplay you have to do, to read the story. The only reason we don't call them part of this DB is, because most of the time spent is with the lootboxes and gameplay grind.

So I am sorry. But VNs are getting killed by that shit, just like other games. Nothing different. Arguably, it hits VNs more than normal games.Last modified on 2019-11-18 at 15:14
#7 by ember
2019-11-18 at 22:54
I still have PTSD from the fact that the writer of Crescendo abandoned VNs and is now selling e-cigarettes (?).
#8 by sakurakoi
2019-11-19 at 04:49
of course, never blame yourself, only others
#9 by fuukanou
2019-11-19 at 04:55
"Japanese only readers...having a much smaller pool of people to get people to read the stuff you like is hard when only a minority of readers can actually read visual novels in Japanese, let alone want to."

I don't see how this is a problem. Just read what you want, who needs other people to talk to when you got more visual novels to read.
#10 by lala7
2019-11-19 at 06:10
#3 how about Eiyuu senki & Himegari? There are several Eroges exist that turned into gacha games. I remembered browsing panda and wondered why there are duplicates of CG VNs, only to realize they were from dmm and turned into gacha games. I have mixed feelings about this, while I loathe almost all gacha games, Eroge companies need money to stay alive.Last modified on 2019-11-19 at 06:10
#11 by lala7
2019-11-19 at 06:47
Being a Japanese company/writer sucks because if you want to write a story you care about, you basically have to insert porn just to make sure you game sells to the people willing to spend big yen
Why if the writers love writing porn? Are you going to ignore female writers who love writing porn scenes in eroges? and it's not like porn will sell well if your story sucks.
Its the most niche set of media among weebs not guaranteed to sell well or most people have even heard of most of them (outside DDLC)
No, check this one. Eroges sell well in western market, if they put faith in translation and uncensoring their products. This is why steam has to censors some of eroges because they actually hate having Japanese eroges to sell well.
Being a fantranslator gets you no pay, and if a localization company happens to get the license you're likely screwed unless you get lucky.
or you could just communicate with them and they will pay you if you put faith on them.Last modified on 2019-11-19 at 06:47
#12 by mcmullengage
2019-11-19 at 19:16
I like how you went and posted this here after you got downvoted on Reddit.
#13 by echozulu
2019-11-19 at 20:46
#12 If you'd have looked at the time stamps on Reddit and here you'd have noticed that OP posted it within 8 minutes of his post on Reddit (For reference, VNDB time somehow is always 1h behind where you're from, at least it's like that for me).

I think it's nice that Ange posts these things from time to time, some of it is new information and some of it is an entry into the genre for new members even if most of it is baltantly obvious to a seasoned/veteran VN reader.Last modified on 2019-11-19 at 20:48
#14 by alexlung
2019-11-19 at 23:42
VN will grow in popularity, just like in anime

but its gonna take a very long time

most ppl who reads Light Novels will end up reading VNs at some point
#15 by diabloryuzaki
2019-11-20 at 01:21
#14 vn is limited to people who can read it in japanese or for people who wait fan translation that mostly need 1-3 years to finished unless majority of fan translation know "how to extract and archive the scenario"
#16 by veshurik
2019-11-20 at 06:15
Well, he also posted it on Fuwanovel and on Reddit...
#17 by bunny1ov3r
2019-11-20 at 08:52
OP has made a lot of legit points.

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