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#1 by pramit
2020-02-04 at 13:58
Hey, just went through your list, you have good taste :)
did you perhaps play ikusa megami zero with machine translation?

And, cool thread on the differences between real life and fictional relationships in vn's. I wonder if this cultural phenomenon of dating sims and how they evolved into the visual novels we play today, if it occured in the past as well (i.e. not japan)? There is obviously very japanese influences in how the characters are brought to us, but those influences have undoubtably evolved on their own as well. Its not a one way relationship - people don't just influence the market. The market influences people too - and the decisions to do this and that with a certain character influences future decisions of the same nature. In my experience, a lot of vn's are simply following the formula with just enough variation to get you started. They are easy to digest visual novels that are meant to target people who are lonely(for whatever reasons).Last modified on 2020-02-04 at 14:05
#2 by behappyeveryday
2020-02-06 at 09:54
Hi. I completed Megami Zero using VNR and some basic knowledge of Japanese. Before it actually got full machine translation. Though I hear that it is edited well enough.

As about the difference in relationships - I would say that in VN you could see idealized relationships. Being with a girl in the real world is different. So, even if you aren't "lonely" and have a gf you still would be likely to enjoy visual novels. First - there a lot of girls, it means variety. It is hard for most guys to get sexual or romantic variety with multiple girls. Second - girls, in reality, are just humans, the same as us. It means they are far from being perfect. Most girls you find are probably dated other guys before, have had some kinky sex with them and cried for them. It isn't even necessarily what you would be the number one guy in her life. And there is no guarantee that she wouldn't cheat on you. She also can have significant personality flaws. Some of them would be revealed much later in the relationship.

Anyway, any fictions follows certain formula, it is wrong in itself. The thing is - the representatives of genre can break the formula or using it in a very unique way.
#3 by pramit
2020-02-08 at 10:28
What visual novels are you currently reading?
#4 by behappyeveryday
2020-02-09 at 06:34
I'm currently writing my own novel in the LitRPG genre. The last VN I've read was Muramasa, but I postponed completing it because of how much I was annoyed with the Ichijou route, you can find my rant if you want, lol.
#5 by pramit
2020-02-09 at 20:08
Oh cool, did you read it using VNR too?
#6 by behappyeveryday
2020-02-13 at 05:07
Yeah, but without some basic knowledge of Japanese it would be not possible to read comfortably as the language used in the game isn't simple.
#7 by pramit
2020-02-14 at 02:23
what knowledge constitutes basic knowledge? or, how muchLast modified on 2020-02-14 at 02:23
#8 by behappyeveryday
2020-02-14 at 07:02
Basic grammar you could learn online. IDK how much, a lot of my knowledge just from reading a lot.


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