MG Survey 2020

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#26 by artumis
2020-02-29 at 21:21
Well, this got derailed. The survey could have been better, such as the suggested "How much do you spend on VNs in a year?" being paired with the number purchased. I imported a few bundles, netting a decent chunk of games for less then $20 per title. It's also incredibly easy to pick up smaller nukige titles like the stuff released by Cherry Kiss Games for like $10 each. It's still a decent gauge as asked but it isn't like Mangagamer can verify any of the numbers. I'm sure there will be a decent chunk of people who select the number of VNs they played rather than how many they actually paid for.

Regardless though, as pointed out earlier in the thread, you can generally expect the bulk of customers to make relatively few purchases, particularly since VNs are probably only a small fraction of the entertainment they consume. Going by those general market trends, I highly doubt that the percentage of respondents who bought 10+ games is in the double digits, so different options would just decrease the accuracy of the question. They could have done something besides multiple choice but realistically it wouldn't make much difference since they'd probably just categorize responses into a similar number of tiers from 0 to 10+.
#27 by altonan
2020-02-29 at 21:32
@26 The issue with those bundles are that they're all selling games which are at least a few years old and that people interested in those titles have probably obtained them already when they were released at full price. That's not to say it's impossible for people who missed out on certain titles to purchase them in bulk, but it's far more realistic to expect people to pay for a title they want full price on launch day, rather than waiting months or even years for the title to be discounted just so they can save money. There's a reason why a large percentage of a VN's total sales occur within the first week of launch day.
#28 by kiru
2020-02-29 at 21:38
^Those times are long since over, unless maybe if you ONLY play JP games that got translated. There's just too much getting released, so people choose, especially with other games getting released as well and whatnot. And at some point you can buy something a bit cheaper, which might make the previously skipped games a little bit more attractive.

Backlogs are a thing. Also I actually think that nowadays you really don't have to go with new games anymore, if you don't want to. Within a year you get good sales, and you don't have to worry about catching them or the game ever to be sold out either. Everyone has a backlog. Just get stuff from that. You can get so much for so little money. The videogame industry didn't do itself only favors by focusing so much on digital sales. It makes things easier for them, but it also removes a very important factor for people to get new games: They won't sell out anymore. Especially niche games wouldn't even necessarily get cheaper during the physical times. It might just be the opposite.Last modified on 2020-02-29 at 21:43
#29 by shinytentacool
2020-03-01 at 05:09
I feel like these surveys are much more about figuring out the analytics for them to do better advertising. The "pick 3 games" is just to to hook you into filling the survey
#30 by finalfantasy7
2020-03-13 at 07:30
I voted Oyako Rankan, Tsumamigui 3, and Demonion + suggested to partnership Astronauts.
#31 by usagi
2020-03-13 at 10:49
I feel like these surveys are much more about figuring out the analytics for them to do better advertising. The "pick 3 games" is just to to hook you into filling the survey
This. Nowadays it's not even matters what vn they are going to do. If they fail to deliver good enough ones - that will do their rivals instead (Jast, Sol Press, Nekonyan, Sekai Project etc.). There are enough good localization companies in the market already - while good vns are not that many. Sooner or later majority of best titles will be localized anyway - with surveys or without them.
#32 by altonan
2020-03-13 at 11:31
@32 Jast and Sekai Project localisations apparently take the lifespan of the universe to complete though. Sol and Nekonyan only seem interested in localising moege, nothing too risque. For all the various gripes people have with MangaGamer sometimes it does seem like they are the only localization company which seems to be pushing the envelope on forming partnerships with producers. So if you want a fairly obscure title to be translated in a reasonable time frame I'd say MangaGamer is still your best bet.

I do remember a while back Nexton did their own survey asking which of their titles people would like to see get an English translation. I'm still wondering if they are planning on entering the translation scene or if they'll do their translations through MangaGamer (due to past company relations).
#33 by altonan
2020-03-13 at 11:36
@28 When's the last time people went through a backlog though. People say they have backlogs but no one actually visits their backlog. It's the same issue with humble bundles. Also steam just announce their first ever VN sale a few weeks ago (as in it's the first one they've ever had) so I seriously doubt people are buying VN's in bulk via Steam.
#34 by kiru
2020-03-14 at 10:13
^But I did. Both buying multiple things, as well as going at my backlog. Of all the VNs I've bought this year, only 2 were new, and one of those I didn't even play yet. Mostly to support that one. (Utawa PC)

I'm sure some people only play new games. But I doubt it's the majority. It's expensive and usually only for people who only want AAA stuff or don't want to ever research a bit, so they only check new games coming out. VNs and Rpgs are long. If you like one of these two, it's pretty much impossible to only jump at new stuff.

That said, clearing your backlog is impossible. But that's another story. Also I'm pretty sure I've seen VN sales before. Maybe they were called a bit differently or whatever, but they were there.Last modified on 2020-03-14 at 10:14
#35 by butterflygrrl
2020-03-14 at 12:30
yeah that's nowhere near steam's first VN sale, they usually called them Anime Sales or something.


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