Best place to start in the Rance series?

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#1 by scrungus
2020-08-02 at 17:57
< report >I'm interested in playing Rance but I really don't know where to start. I have a feeling that this series is one where release order isn't the best way to go about playing it. Does anyone have any suggestions or advice. Translation status doesn't matter, I'll be reading in Japanese either way.
#2 by surferdude
2020-08-02 at 18:00
< report >How about starting with the first in the series and/or its remake?
#3 by scrungus
2020-08-02 at 18:01
< report >You think that's a good place to start? Is it like essential to the narrative to start at the beginning?
#4 by surferdude
2020-08-02 at 18:06
< report >It usually is, yeah...
#5 by mutsuki
2020-08-02 at 18:16
< report >start with the last one for shits and giggles
#6 by behappyeveryday
2020-08-03 at 08:53
< report >You can just ignore the old versions or read their summary, they aren't very good. You can read remakes if you want, though only 03 is considered a decent game. You can enjoy the Rance series by just playing 6-10 in chronological order and ignoring anything else. If you enjoyed Sengoku's gameplay then Kichikuou would be nice, it also has a similar plot to Rance 10 and characters from old 1-4 games. You can start from Sengoku without missing anything and enjoy the best gameplay in series by many people's opinion (some consider 10 to be better though).

I would say that 1-5 aren't important to the narrative of the story, the overarching plot starts from Sengoku's True End.Last modified on 2020-08-03 at 08:55
#7 by surferdude
2020-08-03 at 22:41
< report >Why do I even bother...
#8 by lucumo
2020-08-04 at 02:46
< report >Ideally, you read the VNs in release order. First one isn't exactly good (it's an adventure game, released by just a few people in a short amount of time), second is better (ok), third is better (decent) and then the fourth one is already good. 4.1 and 4.2 go back to 2nd/3rd levels, as they tried something different with releasing shorter episodes. Kichikuou Rance is excellent. 5D is messy because of complications and with that you are already in the new age. Just continue like that from there.
#9 by catasplurge
2020-09-25 at 14:39
< report >Don't understand this mindset with big rpg series with continuing plots and not starting from the beginning. Especially with the remakes all of them are pretty fun so there's no benefit to skipping. The early games especially will introduce characters that show up in nearly every game and whats the point of series like this if you're not gonna be invested with the characters from the beginning tbh.
#10 by mikiru
2020-09-25 at 19:27
< report >I have no idea what problems other people have with this series. But in my case, this is a lack of desire to start series from beginning due to technical part of old games, as well as the design. Also, some people leave pretty decent reviews about 1-3 parts. Even though they have remakes, I don't want to interrupt story after 3 parts, and start from 7-8 parts to 10. Waiting for 10 years of remakes of remaining parts is not a very wise idea, in my case.
#11 by mrkew
2020-09-25 at 20:37
< report >The only remaining remake is 04, and it is not really needed in my opinion. IV is really solid.
And just reading #6's post makes me incredibly mad.Last modified on 2020-09-25 at 20:38
#12 by lemonov
2020-10-22 at 07:39
< report >Just for everyone reading now, 01 and 02kaikai are releasing in English soon so now it's way better to start with them. All Rance games are connected so it's best to play in them all chronologically.Last modified on 2020-10-22 at 07:39
#13 by irx
2020-10-30 at 07:24
< report >So, which version is better, 02 or kai, any ideas on which one to play?
#14 by conquestmaster
2020-10-30 at 08:01
< report >I was also wondering the same as #13
#15 by vario
2020-10-30 at 08:07
< report >I'm not entirely sure but Kai should be more faithful to the plot of the series? Since they changed stuff in 01 and 03 to make them fit better in the timeline.
#16 by lemonov
2020-10-31 at 09:36
< report >#13 #14 #15 Kai. It's twice as long as the old 02 and is an updated version which is considered canon to the modern Rance timeline. Have fun fellas
#17 by thereservoir
2020-10-31 at 17:34
< report >One of them is free right? Probably a good place to test the series out.
#18 by surferdude
2020-11-05 at 02:20
< report >About the English Rance 02 Kai script, for anyone who cares:

After comparing some of MangaGamer's translation with the Japanese text, I can confirm that the script MG translated is the original Kai that came with the Alice 2010 disc.

It is NOT the later revision that AliceSoft released on their site, also known as Rance 02 Kai Kai, or version 1.20.

What's the difference, you ask? About 40KB of text.
#19 by lemonov
2020-11-05 at 13:54
< report >#18 Is it possible fot you to wite a list of all sigificant story changes in kaikai? And why would MG even do this? Why not TL the latest version right away?Last modified on 2020-11-05 at 13:55
#20 by surferdude
2020-11-05 at 20:12
< report >^ Sorry, no can do. I only compared the scripts in a few places, enough to confirm this. I haven't read KaiKai yet.
#21 by behappyeveryday
2020-11-06 at 02:10
< report >@20 Why you assumed then that the script between the original Kai and Kai Kai is different if you didn't read the latter? Most likely they have the same script overall, but with some additions.Last modified on 2020-11-08 at 08:50
#22 by surferdude
2020-11-06 at 16:37
< report >^ I didn't ASSUME anything. I compared MG's translation with both the Kai and KaiKai JP scripts and it is very clear that MG translated Kai, NOT KaiKai. You don't have to read the whole thing to figure that out, duh.
#23 by delusionparadox
2020-11-13 at 08:17
< report >The script differences between Kai and KaiKai are not significant, KaiKai is basically just typo fixes and reverting Earthy's events to those in 02. Main feature is the gameplay tweaks, but you can live without those.

Anyhow, as for the actual thread:

Rance 01+02 is a fine place to start. Though they aren't as beloved as later titles, they're still quite entertaining.
Rance VI+5D (official name order) is fine if you don't mind TADA making an RNG beast for 5D or skip to VI instead.
Sengoku Rance is one of the most beloved games in the series and doesn't require previous titles either, so you can start there as well.

It's up to whether you want to play the whole series in release order (01+02), and if you don't care, whether you want to keep a more ambitious title for later (go for 01+02 or VI+5D) or would rather start with a stronger hook into the series (Sengoku).Last modified on 2020-11-13 at 09:08
#24 by mikiru
2020-11-25 at 18:21
< report >I would like to ask if I will not miss anything important if I exclude Rance 4 (1993) and Rance 5D from my list?

I plan to go in this order:
Rance 01(Re) → Rance02(Kai) → Rance 03(Re) → Rance 6 → Sengoku → Quest → Rance 9 → Rance 10.
#25 by surferdude
2020-11-25 at 21:21
< report >^ Rance 4 is important for understanding Rance 9.
And don't forget about Slash Thrust Burn after Sengoku. ^__^