Okay, so did DC4FD can make DC4 better? [SPOILER]

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#1 by diabloryuzaki
2020-10-23 at 14:08
< report >because i feel desperate in DC4, now i'm try to place a little hope and a little expectation to FD especially after i see

1. bad timing ntr in DC4 (arisu-arisa route)
2. wrong/weird plot twist (shiina route)
3. heroine background is just fan service (sorane route)
4. sakura is more low than mascot character

even the best heroine route is not arisu-arisa but chiyoko if you see from how little is weird part in her route. i hope FD really can fix above point especially arisa because it is feel wasteful to left her setting still undeveloped
#2 by veshurik
2021-02-28 at 08:21
< report >Ugh, to be honest, judging only by opening movie and art quality, DC4 and FD seems for me absolutely other game, I don't know why they called it DC4. Like they should just milk as much money as they can.

I see totally another atmosphere from openings and art style. Also I don't know what can be in DC4, if DC3 finished all the stories, right? With Sakura tree, I mean.
What the sense of DC4? It looks so divorced from the rest, if it was just by another name (not Da Capo), I won't even say anything. But sorry, it seems like they are milking the franchise and don't care about it at all. Also I heard that director of Circus has changed since Dal Segno release?

Of course, I can't judge fully because I didn't play the game (I also wonder if they never release adult version still after almost 2 years), but I clearly see by site, by art and characters, that it's like... Absolutely another game. Maybe, you have another opinion, but I would like to hear yours.
#3 by diabloryuzaki
2021-02-28 at 09:31
< report >#2
my opinion is one my first comment and it is about DC 4 as basic. in the past i have read DC 3 and their FD then make a conclusion that FD is needed and not important at the same time but that is occur because DC 3 try to explain DC 1 & 2 then suddenly another new setting appear in it so it can't be helped

but DC 4 work different from it. "another whole new series", yeah i can accept it after read for a while and get interested to it until like what i have explained above. then they release FD like for what? it doesn't like they can fill blank setting from DC 4 and if they can then they have done it in DC 3. moreover circus is not like moonstone where moege/charage turn into horror or extreme genre that never occur in the past vn

ex: if someone said moonstone then there is two vn that appear right away, imouto paradise or princess evangelie. these vn is popular but moonstone try to challenge another genre that they never try to touch because it is very contrast to their motto (?). go check Honoguraki Toki no Hate Yori and Sakura no Mori † Dreamers, both of them created by moonstone but different from how they usually create vn. it is just so dark, thrilling or even cruel. this is how moonstone regain enough reader to support them again so the reader didn't too bored to read imouto paradise or similar thing like this and show that they can write another vn that are contrasted from it, though it is not going well to circus like dal segno is just copy-paste vn and DC 4 is just a whole new series with same title
#4 by mikuxdrift
2021-02-28 at 09:38
< report >welp... D.C.4FD will answer some of your questions.

And sad to say that the "absurd milking" ain't stopping anytime soon. and they even consider crowd funding for future games (like minori IIRC)

@2 if you meant D-Hayashi. he is still the current director. (according from their official YT page)Last modified on 2021-02-28 at 09:42
#5 by veshurik
2021-02-28 at 09:58
< report >Really, they said that they will do crowdfunding for future games? Seems it's tough for them now...
I remember they crowdfund only for Da Capo Super Live 2, and that's all.

No, I mean previous director, who left with Da Capo 3 finishing. Then I saw various opinions that Circus are going down in terms of quality etc (for example, Tenpure, where I see clear emphasis on sexual desires, judging by opening movie).

Also, making DC4 FD for almost 2 years makes me think that they are not doing very well :(
#6 by mikuxdrift
2021-02-28 at 10:08
< report >@5 IIRC from their "twitcast" discussion and their recent awareness survey they do mention the possibility of that happening. (again that still depends on the situation.)

DC4FD's end will decide the future of the series. Last modified on 2021-02-28 at 10:24
#7 by veshurik
2021-02-28 at 12:34
< report >Oh, can you tell more please about survey? And what they said on "Twitcast" discussion?

You mean, DC4FD's impression of players will decide the future of Da Capo series?
#8 by mikuxdrift
2021-02-28 at 14:17
< report >@7 there was a survey questionnaire that ran on CIRCUS's website link

They asked like what kind of games does players want or don't want to see in the future, some about DC and many more. (the usual survey stuff like genre, setting and such)

The game crowd funding thing: It was been brought up by chat kinda as a joke on a twitcast and them jokingly agreeing to it earlier last year.
Although now i do see a slim chance of that may happen because of DCSL2 success and the recent survey question that was asked:

"If ever there was a crowd funding for a game would you consider it?"

(but i still hope they don't )

You mean,
Just read it. if you have a chance as i don't want to spoil it too much. The ending is the hint. And yeah, the readers impression too.

just don't take the crowd funding comment on #4 post seriously.

EDIT: chat mention, #4 and DCSL2.Last modified on 2021-02-28 at 15:10
#9 by veshurik
2021-03-16 at 13:20
< report >I won't plan to read DC4, because I don't have a time on this, and I would be glad if you tell me all the story under spoiler. I'm interested what Circus did with new part of series, and how it can be connected to previous parts. Thanks.
#10 by usuisorata
2021-08-02 at 10:10
< report >I find like certain parts would have been better like the relationship of Shiina and misaki would have been better done if it was in Miyamoto route and ignored in Shiina route
#11 by usuisorata
2021-08-02 at 10:10
< report >(The stupid auto typo) *Miyako


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