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#76 by nekoyasha
2012-09-07 at 02:01
kinda off-topic and I don't wanna open another thread, but does anyone have the OST of the game?
Why yes, I do. (Yes, I'm being a smart-ass.)

Seriously though, it's a really good OST, one which I listen to now and then (which I don't do with a lot of VN OSTs). Not quite as good as Rondo Leaflet or Romanesque, maybe, but very good. My only quibble is that they didn't put the full version, or any version, of Call My Dears on it. I love that song, and I don't know what album it's on. I found a listenable, but relatively crappy, full version online, but if I knew what album I could find it on I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Incidentally, did anyone else find it odd having a VN OP (and insert song) with a male singer? I thought it was unusual, but then again I haven't played a huge number of VNs; but I saw a Japanese review online that commented about it too. I saw an album by the group, pigstar, when I was at AX, but I didn't pick it up because it was for some yaoi anime/game/something...

@74: Yes, it's just an anagram (which I would consider more of a spoiler if the reader wasn't hit over the head with it in the game).
#77 by usagi
2012-09-08 at 14:52
@ horseband:

Usagi I think you are missing something key here and you are arguing about something else entirely. Loli heroine is for heroines that have loli appearance. This is the tag for tagging a novel with characters that appear loli. Your whole argument is that the characters appear loli, which is fine. That's what the loli heroine tag is for and I think this is what you are confusing with the lolicon tag.

Lolicon is a sexual content tag, whether you personally believe it or not is irrelevant. It specifically says sex scenes related to lolicon themes and characters. It doesn't matter how other sites use it, or how galleries label their images, that is all irrelevant. Of course looks matter, but that's just a single part of the tag. Even if the tag is slightly vague, it specifically gives you two guidelines, appearance and themes. It doesn't say appearance or themes, it says SEXUAL content with loli appearance and themes.

Maybe it is somewhat late - but I want to continue our argument about lolicon tag since I just found some interesting new points against your statements )
You say that lolicon tag are not for sex with heroine with loli appearance but only for true lolicon-themed games whereas loli heroine tag can be used even in not lolicon games - I hope I understand it correctly?
Ok. Now what about these tags:
g668
g184
?

Why the description of shotacon is so different from description of lolicon? Why there are such gender inequality? How I can wage constructive dispute and base my judgement on current definitions if there are such double standarts?
I think the description of shotacon tag should be changed to match the lolicon tag - or vice versa. So it will be a much fairer.

IMO though - current shotacon description is much simpler - hence much more useful in practice. Let's say one want to find cg's with sex scenes with shotas. There is nothing easier now - just click on shotacon tag link. But what about lolicon tag? Now there are some dependance on plot in description - i.e. one seeking loli sex cg's tends to miss some eventually. And even using loli heroine tag do not make it an easy task - since in many even 18+ games loli heroines are without routes and h-scenes .Last modified on 2012-09-08 at 15:27
#78 by gabezhul
2012-09-08 at 15:07
Why the description of shotacon is so different from description of lolicon?
Because Shotacon is rare. With almost every eroge having a token loli, it's important to differentiate between loli-focused eroge and normal eroge that just happens to have one or two loli heroines. Shotacon, on the other hand, is rare enough so that a single tag is enough to clarify it.
#79 by usagi
2012-09-08 at 15:13
Because Shotacon is rare. With almost every eroge having a token loli, it's important to differentiate between loli-focused eroge and normal eroge that just happens to have one or two loli heroines. Shotacon, on the other hand, is rare enough so that a single tag is enough to clarify it.
Thinking logically, that difference should be shown with tag voting - not with discrepancies in definitions 0_0
And check my post above - I added there some new thoughts.
#80 by gabezhul
2012-09-08 at 15:24
The logic is that the tags in question serve completely different purpose.
When one searches for a lolicon-game, he searches for something that predominantly focuses on lolies and have h-scenes with them.
Shotacon does not work that way, since there are no "shotacon-games" that focus predominantly in shotas and their h-scenes, so when someone searches for Shotacon, they search for any and all eroges with shotas in them.
Finally, we have the Loli Heroine tag for non-lolicon VNs, which is not a search-tag but rather an informative-tag, aka you usually don't search for it (since so many eroge contain loli heroines that it would be pretty much pointless) but it is still useful as it tells about the existence of these heroines in the VNs once someone is on their page.

Also, if you want to further debate this (Protip: You don't. Trust me, you really don't... -.-), open a new thread or something instead of hijacking this thread. We have already established that you are the ONLY person in the thread who thinks this is lolicon (and you are wrong), so there is no point having this debate here.
#81 by usagi
2012-09-08 at 15:31
Shotacon does not work that way, since there are no "shotacon-games" that focus predominantly in shotas and their h-scenes, so when someone searches for Shotacon, they search for any and all eroges with shotas in them.
Actually there are. Example: v10119 or many of p181 games.
Also, if you want to further debate this (Protip: You don't. Trust me, you really don't... -.-), open a new thread or something instead of hijacking this thread. We have already established that you are the ONLY person in the thread who thinks this is lolicon (and you are wrong), so there is no point having this debate here.
Ok, I think about it )
#82 by pendelhaven
2012-09-08 at 18:49
finished Yukina Route and also Tsuzumi route

Yumina + Tsuzumi spoilers

In Tsuzumi's route there's that wild bird that they took care of, but of course it's not in Yukina's. Giving Tsuzumi more time to hunt down Yukina's dad. I guess my question(s) would be where on earth is she in Yukina's route? Moreover, in the time when the cafe is literally booming, WHERE IS SHE? WHERE IS ASAHI AND THE OTHERS? Don't tell me they don't know a thing about the whole part-time job, given how nagging they are. Given how low in drama Yukina's route is, I was WAITING for the time where Tsuzumi + Yukina + Dad encountered each other in that booming shop. And what the hell is with Rin when they broke up? I can't help but think that the authors intentionally threw Rin's plot device in the waste bin when doing Yukina's.

I just hope I get more answers / clarifications in the other routes. And that plot device at the very beginning of the game too. Hope that they're all connected some way or the other.
#83 by pendelhaven
2012-09-15 at 10:08
Finished the whole thing. I'm giving this a 6.

Reasons:
1. Art. It doesn't matter if you get "used" to it, or that it becomes forgivable after a few hours of playing it. Bad art is bad art. No excuses. Cheekbones, foreheads, the eyes, and most especially what I find jarring is the mustache. No, not the mustache itself, but that place where mustache grows; it just feels too overstretched or something.

2. Yukina's route. It was so low in drama, and to think that it's well tied with Tsuzumi's just made it even worse. I was expecting more than just that, really. Intertwining the two routes was a big gamble, and would only work if they did put a lot of drama or whatever into it. Sadly they didn't.

3. Comedy. As gabe said, they're all hit or miss -- mostly miss. I don't think the translation is at fault here. In contrast I think Neko did a great job.

4. Common route. To this point the only thing I can remember is that very long day 2 where Mitsuki helped Kohane with the astronomy club. After that I find myself alt-tabbing a lot.

5. So what happened with the alien issue in Yukina/Tsuzumi route? Was Tsuzumi actually targeting Yukina when she gave the candy to Mitsuki? The angel wing issue is explained VERY LITTLE in common route, but not really stretching itself farther than that.

6. BGM. It's mostly meh. There's just one BGM there that I think it stood the most that I'm planning to extract the music file just to add it in my soundtrack list.

7. Koto's route. 100% predictable, really. and short. And I'm glad they did because if they stretched the route longer it will only do harm.

Not bashing the VN or something since it had a lot of good times though

1. Rin's route. It's well-written. The storyboard flew in smooth sail. Everything made sense and I have no qualms at it.

2. Aoi's route. The way it turned from pure friendship into love is maybe a bit overused, but in this case it was done well. I also liked how they resolved Arisa.

3. Asahi's route. While I think the route itself is inferior compared to Rin's, I think it fits perfectly as "the closest thing to a True Route".
#84 by horseband
2012-09-16 at 03:42
@pendel

@1. Sigh.

@2. Different strokes I guess. I was quite happy to see some routes had less drama than others. Sometimes it's nice to read something that isn't full of gut wrenching drama.

@4. ...

@5 I think you read way too much into that. She was simply trying to be a "good friend". Yukina wasn't even on her radar. I'm not sure what alien issue you are referring to. Most stuff was resolved and anything that wasn't is irrelevant to the given plot at hand.

@6. Can't think of a reply for this either.

@7. It's a bonus route. It's supposed to be short. It was basically thrown in for fanservice and to give Koto some love. It's better than not having it at all..

While I think the route itself is inferior compared to Rin's

*brain implodes*

Well, different strokes for different folks. You seem to crave heavy drama and plot orientated VNs. I don't think Period really fits into either of those so it's understandable your lack of enjoyment.

On a side note, have you really only fully read 4 Vns... You've been here so long o_O.Last modified on 2012-09-16 at 04:13
#85 by pendelhaven
2012-09-16 at 05:12
Some VNs I couldn't really give a vote because... just because. It's really swaying, or something.

@alien issue:

You know... the sudden loli issue. Where did it came from? why was Mitsuki unaffected by the candy while Yukina was? And her dad!!! There's so many unfinished plotlines here.
#86 by horseband
2012-09-16 at 05:50
Because Yukina's an alien and Mitsuki is not. There's no plothole there. What about her dad specifically?

Don't you see the connection between Tsuzumi's "true form" and Yukina's loli form?
That was put there to imply she was an alien (one could already assume that from her dad being one, but this is pretty much the cherry on top). Whether the loli form is her true form (which I am leaning towards) or whether the candy just changes the age temporarily (like Tsuzumi did to become a teenager) is left open.Last modified on 2012-09-16 at 05:55
#87 by pendelhaven
2012-09-16 at 05:55
Because Yukina's an alien and Mitsuki is not.
I know that much. And it's really implied that Yukina's dad knows something about the alien issue. Was he in some sort of an org? a fugitive? from what? I never said there were plotholes. It's just unfinished plot lines / plot devices.Last modified on 2012-09-16 at 05:55
#88 by horseband
2012-09-16 at 06:08
I guess I'm mainly confused as to why you were confused about Mitsuki not being affected if you knew Yukina was an alien. The candy was alien made and obviously designed for their species. Just because Tsuzumi/Yukina may look human doesn't mean they have the exact same insides/body chemistry.

Tsuzumi is now a fugitive too. How Yukina's dad got to where he was never the focus of the route. It's more of less stated/implied that he was probably in a similar situation as Tsuzumi. She didn't want to leave everyone behind, and that seems to be exactly what happened to him. Tsuzumi had Mitsuki and Yukina's dad had Yukina's mom and subsequently Yukina. This is why Tsuzumi ultimately fails her mission she eventually realizes what he went through.

Whether he was in the same organization isn't important. Maybe if they delved more into the organization itself it would've been relevant, but it really is just an unnecessary detail. Everything that we NEED to know is presented to us.

I personally thought the author did a great job including aliens in a otherwise relatively normal slice of life novel. I can tell you like getting all the facts and little details, which is fine. But to have a 10 minute infodump in Tsuzumi's route would've contrasted the rest of the novel.


The thing I will agree on is the angel part of the novel really could've used a little more explanation. It felt kind of tacked on and it's pretty much absent from everything except common/Kohane route.Last modified on 2012-09-16 at 06:14
#89 by thedevil69sg
2016-06-16 at 10:53
Not really a fan of this game... aside from the art, which was beautiful and different. the story was quite blend and dull with your typical common moronic, sissyboy type main character...

and it also seems to encourage a lot of negative habits...

all in all I give it a 2/10
#90 by skrybe
2016-06-18 at 00:24
I like Period, and while I acknowledge the game isn't perfect, I think 2/10 is a bit harsh. In fairness, I'm a massive fan of Nocchi's art, so that does color my opinion.

The story is very solidly slice-of-life for the bulk of the game, which can be boring if that's not your thing. So your critique of the story is valid.

Calling Mitsuki a moronic sissyboy is pretty extreme. He's lazy initially, but becomes much more involved when someone lights a fire under his ass, like in the search for the observatory key in the beginning.

And, I don't know what you're getting at by saying the game encourages negative habits. I've only finished the routes for Rin, Yukina, and Tsuzumi, but I can't recall anything in those stories that fits what you're describing.

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