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#1 by diabloryuzaki
2021-04-15 at 16:05
< report >Sequel, FD or remake with 18+ content?

*btw i still didn't understand why the minimum OS for it is 8.1 too, did there is something that make it look special at windows 8.1 maybe? I still can see windows 8.1 patch still best solution rather than increase minimum OS condition
#2 by mikuxdrift
2021-04-15 at 17:01
< report >Im leaning towards a ̶R̶E̶A̶L̶ sequel. because of the huge amount of hints.

but still... lets see that on the 30th when more details are revealed.

About the minimum OS support: I guess its more like a placebo effect of some sort. (forgot the right word for it so...) but it may also support windows 7. Like DC4FD which was only mentioned as win 10 supported only link but in reality it can run happily on win 7 and 8.1 even without emulating JP locale.

also being Circus ditched their old game engine to a Kiri-Kiri or Kiri-Kiri Z engine now.Last modified on 2021-04-16 at 00:52
#3 by vario
2021-04-16 at 04:21
< report >Plus Harmony clearly implies Plus H so it's probably just the original game with h-scenes (and new VAs) like it was with Da Capo 3 before.

And Windows 7 simply isn't supported by Microsoft anymore so they just list new ones.Last modified on 2021-04-16 at 04:22
#4 by kiru
2021-04-16 at 08:19
< report >It's obvious that they'd need new voice actors for an adult version, but who the fuck would want that? DC3 could largely retain the voice actors, as far as I can see. And DC4's value comes from the voice actor cast if you ask me. (it made even me consider trying it, even though I never played a Da Capo.. though I didn't)

Is the 18+ confirmed? If not, I call doubt on that.Last modified on 2021-04-16 at 08:19
#5 by mrkew
2021-04-16 at 08:52
< report >#4 It's not hard to go to the page link and see for yourself.
#6 by kitsune-chan
2021-04-16 at 14:06
< report >I'm a bit surprised to see this getting 18+ release. That makes me wonder why they didn't just go with different cast right from the beginning, instead of having to replace most of them now.

I do love how first fandisc was called literally DC4 FD, and now the 18+ versions is basically called plus H xD Wonder if I'll even live long enough to catch up with this series lol.
#7 by jiharo
2021-04-16 at 15:59
< report >#4 The HUGE difference between DC3 and DC4 and why DC3 could largely retain their VAs is because of the huge disparity in difference between DC3 and DC4's VAs. There's no way majority of the DC4's cast would take on 18+ roles ever. This is something I can say with confidence unless the industry changed and rid themselves of the stigmatism it carries. I daresay that's one of the reasons why we're seeing less Kiritani Hana in the industry itself.

They are gonna have to replace majority of the VAs they had in the all age version. I only hope they would be good replacements.
#8 by kiru
2021-04-16 at 16:33
< report >^Like I said, it's obvious why. I was asking who would ever want that.
#9 by bookshelf
2021-04-16 at 16:44
< report >^I'm sure a large portion of their audience lost interest when they saw the all-ages tag. If all they need to do is change some VAs and throw in a few h-scenes to recapture that audience. I imagine they'll do it in a heartbeat.Last modified on 2021-04-16 at 16:45
#10 by diabloryuzaki
2021-04-16 at 17:16
< report >#9
No, at first their audience can try to read DC4 because it is something new in DC world until some of them realize

1. Without 18+ content, it is still good enough to read and by adding 18+ it will be perfect
2. DC without 18+ content? No, I don't want to read it. At least I want to see h scene for my favorite girls in DC4

Trust me, read DC4 is really challenging and "maybe" this is the real reason why FD come first than 18+ content
#11 by lordstarfish
2021-04-19 at 19:56
< report >Over in the thread about no H-scenes on the page for the base game I saw someone speculate that it was a sequel because apparently the key art and/or logo was a spoiler for the twist in the canon route... Speaking as someone who is still working his way through the game (Though I only have Hiyori and Arisu left now and at the pace I'm going I should be done within a week or so) I did not really gleam anything from that though so I feel like it's less a "spoiler" and more just... foreshadowing that only becomes apparent after you know what it means.

I'm leaning towards this being the base game with H-scenes though. Granted most routes WOULD require some adjustments to the story in order to accommodate that because most of them have the romance being very slow-burn with the characters only getting together right at the end. But to me it seems more probable that they would do that, than that they would bring out a sequel (to the sequel, at that) that's suddenly 18+ when the base game AND the first sequel to it weren't.

And yeah, recasts are inevitable. As much as I love Touyama Nao as Arisu, Minase Inori as Shiina and Asumi Kana as Hiyori, there is just no way they will appear in an eroge. So all I can hope for is that their replacements will also be solid.
#12 by mikuxdrift
2021-04-20 at 03:00
< report >Sequel, FD or remake it doesn't matter to me anymore... dissatisfaction has been littered everywhere.
Ill just wait and see... Even if that means "nope, i am not reading it" in the end.

about that "spoiler" mentioned, its not that really of a spoiler to be honest. but to explain the whole details behind it does. (you may or may not find this out when you get on that route.)

Anyways... im gonna leave this here. link the 4th Alice theory somehow resurfaces again.
(although that theory has been long dead since early DC4.)
#13 by vario
2021-04-20 at 06:49
< report >Imagine making a sequel but with entirely new VAs.
#14 by lordstarfish
2021-04-28 at 17:00
< report >Well, they just posted the opening video for the game on YouTube and... yeah, confirmed: This is definitely a remake of D.C.4 with added H-scenes. It's literally the exact same opening as the base game only with the logo and VA credits changed. (Which, yes, also confirms recasts. Which is sad but also entirely expected.)
#15 by n8marezero
2021-04-29 at 00:55
< report >The all-ages versions of Da Capo games and their anime adaptations always had completely different seiyuu. Fans have been used to this for ~18 years and likely most don't really care about the change. I doubt anyone expects all the big name anime seiyuu to voice ero. It's amusing to think about who the canon cast even is. Like is Sakura's voice Tamura Yukari or Hokuto Minami? I say both.

Looking at the replacement cast it looks like a "fair" exchange with Haruka Sora, Kusuhara Yui, Ayumi Sarah etc. Sorane is voiced by the same seiyuu that did Himari in Dal Segno, I'm hyped for her.

but who the fuck would want that?
Anyone who doesn't want the new cast and ero can just play the original all-ages release? I don't see your problem. As I said above the series has always had two casts (some characters have 3+ seiyuu). Maybe the idea is foreign to you as someone who hasn't played a single Da Capo?
I for one am happy that after 2 years they finally release the proper DC4. Now to wait another 2 years for FD X-rated...

The other DC4 thread kind of derailed into "Circus is scummy for milking the fans" and while I agree with that statement I'm still a DC fanboy happy about these news. And I don't think it's a "remake" or sequel. The series has always used "Plus" for the extended base games so this should be the same case: Base game with H and maybe some new heroines/upgrading non-heroines to heroine status, some rewritten or added scenes, maybe some extended scenario to link better into FD but I doubt that because Circus is lazier than they used to be. If anything they'll set it up in a way that they can re-release yet another version in a few years. I like Circus, but yeah they'd drain a dead cow's bone marrow and after processing sell it as fresh milk because they can. At least for now. The fact that they didn't bother with a DC4 anime after the DC3 trainwreck tells stories. Who knows, maybe Plus Harmony is their last attempt to get some bucks out of the few remaining fans.
#16 by lordstarfish
2021-04-29 at 08:32
< report >I think the thing with the voice change is though... 1 and 2 *started* as H-games and 3 mostly kept the same voice cast. That, and the cast in 4 is just kind of ridiculously star-studded as-is. Though, from what I'm seeing on Twitter, reactions to the new cast members seem to be rather positive. But before they announced who was in it, what I saw was mostly just "But I don't want anyone but Touyama Nao to be Arisu! :( " ...which is a viewpoint I can certainly understand because it's hard to adequately describe just how incredibly adorable her performance is. But, people seem to be quite happy with her replacement actor as well so I guess there is reason to believe it could work.


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