StarForce?

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#1 by silanda
2021-06-04 at 17:56
< report >From the system specs requiring online activation, I assume this is going to use StarForce again for DRM. Has anyone heard any different?

It's a no buy if so. Thing is, I could put up with the DRM if they allowed license deactivations, but they don't if Empress's past games are anything to go by. StarForce can consider BIOS updates to be a hardware change requiring reactivation, so do a few of them and you can't play any more. Not allowing you to deactivate the license before you do something that counts as a hardware change is a deliberately shitty, anti-consumer decision on the part of the publisher. StarForce can allow it, but Empress chooses to disable it.
#2 by mutsuki
2021-06-04 at 18:19
< report >Was that the case for the two games that were release recently? I checked the DLsite listing and it seemed like it was PlayDRM only.
#3 by silanda
2021-06-04 at 18:50
< report >Great Deceiver and Kisaku-tachi? The DVD releases yes. I own both and have to use cracks with them now.
#4 by mutsuki
2021-06-04 at 19:57
< report >get the dmm ones with the drm that even a child could crack then if you're so bothered by drm
#5 by bcirno
2021-06-05 at 05:04
< report >starforce is still alive? holy shit
#6 by ecchihieronymus
2021-06-05 at 15:13
< report >I'm with #4, DMM's Soft Denchi is such a thinly-veiled 'DRM', that it's barely no DRM at all. I gave a small guide on cracking it somewhere here on VNDB.Last modified on 2021-06-07 at 16:49
#7 by fallenguru
2021-06-06 at 01:17
< report >#6, I've come across at least one title where simply "trimming the fat" doesn't work, though. Off the top of my head, Carnival, for example. So DMM's fine for deep sales, when the game not working is a risk I'm willing to take [SD does not run on Linux], but ... pointers appreciated.Last modified on 2021-06-06 at 01:17
#8 by silanda
2021-06-07 at 11:51
< report >Thanks for the suggestions. Where I'm coming from is that I like to own physical games, but I like to own ones that work rather than only being useful as paperweights. I've got too many games that are only playable with cracks now. Getting the digital release is an option though.

#5 Amazingly, yes. Virtually no-one uses it any more due to the backlash against it some years ago, but it still exists.
#9 by mutsuki
2021-06-07 at 14:12
< report >#8, I used to do physical games but it cost too much to ship them in any decent time so I gave up. I only do physical now if DMM Game Player DRM is being used (as it's uncircumventable and requires a shit steam clone to run, and it takes ages to update and launch and needs to download something or another each time it runs). Normally I don't care about DRM because sometimes it lowers the price of the game.

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