The Steam Deck.

Posted in

#1 by historyeraser
2021-07-17 at 14:44
< report >link

What do you guys think of this? Do you think this can replace the Switch as the go-to way to play VNs on the go? I bet it probably will because it's confirm to basically be a portable gaming PC, so you can probably use R18 patches, which means you can finally nut to your favorite H scene on the go.
#2 by thereservoir
2021-07-17 at 14:48
< report >Sounds like you'll be able to replace SteamOS with Windows easy enough and then you can install any of your DLSite, DMM, or Itch.io purchases. That's what I intend to do.
#3 by vninfohata
2021-07-17 at 19:48
< report >Yeah it's going to be good. Maybe this will actually make publishers invest in linux compatibility. Recently the Do you like horny bunnies remaster released and it is Linux compatible.
Also you can probably run emulation and virtual machines.
#4 by mutsuki
2021-07-17 at 19:52
< report >who is going to lug that giant heavy thing around
#5 by periah250
2021-07-18 at 01:08
< report >You mean like a laptop? Or a switch? Or maybe event a tablet?
#6 by encrypted12345
2021-07-18 at 01:57
< report >I'll doubt it'll last. Based on the specs, it's seems like Steam is taking a loss with each unit sold, hoping to compensate using Steam store sales. I don't think this machine will introduce new people to Steam; it's only going to be bought by avid steam user or the odd emulation fan (who aren't going to be using it to actually buy Steam games).
#7 by sevenbar
2021-07-18 at 01:57
< report >For VNs I still think Android is the future, because of lower power consumption.
#8 by shinytentacool
2021-07-18 at 03:43
< report >playing nukige with this sounds bad. from a comfort standpoint.
for all ages maybe
#9 by erogenie
2021-07-18 at 18:35
< report >Looks like a mess to me,that thing is way out of its league on ergonomy,its arch enemy is less like that,except comparing it to lite.
#4 someone who has the biggest audacity to think this can replace the little guy permanently and loudly shamed those who owned the latter.
#10 by oysterkeeper
2021-07-20 at 21:08
< report >I normally just stream VNs from my PC to my android with nvidia moonlight. The Steam Deck could be useful for this purpose but I'd likely find it too clunky and a bit heavy-weight for relaxing and reading VNs. It's a good option to have though.
#11 by thuongtran1100
2021-07-21 at 07:50
< report >I don't think hold the Steam deck with one hand to F*p is a good idea. Hope whoever came up with that idea have a capable arm to do that.
#12 by vninfohata
2021-07-21 at 11:00
< report >@11 Thing needs a stand to be useful for that purpose.
#13 by sanahtlig
2021-07-21 at 14:06
< report >
Maybe this will actually make publishers invest in linux compatibility.
Maybe if the engine already supports it. I can't see publishers porting to a new engine just for this though.

Also: Would significant numbers of VN fans buy this just to play VNs? Where would you use it? Public transportation is probably the best scenario for sustained/heavy mobile usage, but would people feel comfortable playing VNs in public? My guess is no.Last modified on 2021-07-21 at 14:22
#14 by loki1
2021-07-21 at 18:26
< report >Really hope it isn't as uncomfortable as it looks since I plan on playing vns with gameplay in it like baldr sky and dohna dohna on it.
#15 by forever-here
2021-07-21 at 18:49
< report >1. I'm pretty sure you can install windows on a tablet.
2. are the controller buttons even needed when playing VNs?
3. but I think I'll stick to a laptop if I want an all-rounder aka VNs, browsing, youtubing and some light gaming.
4. the biggest problem I'm seeing with handheld (switch, tablet, phone and even this) is when you're lying in bed and trying to get some sleep. you either tend to raise it above your head aka your arms are stressing. or you go sideways and have a very awkward positioning. with laptop you can just place it at your torso. maybe its just me.
#16 by asgryffynn
2021-07-23 at 06:40
< report >I like it, mostly because we finally get a mainstream mobile Wintel machine (there are Surface Tablets, but they have very weak graphics) and ARM just isn't getting the kind of community support we've seen with Windows. If you want VNs that are not otomes (AND hate Android), you either Stream (which SUCKS when you don't have an internet connection) or buy something similar like the Aya Neo or a Windows tablet... and you can't game on those or they are just as cludgy and janky.

The sad and really depressing truth is that if you want to game and play any visual novel you want, you are mostly confined to hardy Windows and the system doesn't take low power nicely. Android is alright, but it threatens to become an extraordinarily catastrophic monopoly unless the courts brute force Apple to open the iOS ecosystem and the likes of DMM and Mangagamer start bringing age unrestricted VNs to the system.

Ideally, the machine would be less beefy and rather allow for VNs, light Windows tasking and games like some of Square Enix's Dragon Quest titles, Rocket League, mobile games and stuff with rather low system requirements like Koikatsu, Senran Kagura and DoAXVV and Soul Calibur, and some titles like TESVSE and F4.

The thing is that Steam seems to have gone way too high in terms of power, and it's going to be limited to extremely niche demographic samples because of it.

Eventually we will get a better version. Knowing Dell, they are regretting shelving their idea for the same system now and once they see Valve overran the runway, they will probably recreate a smaller version with some enhanced components that will be able to do mostly the same and will probably have aerials so you can rely on that instead of a phone.
#17 by forever-here
2021-07-23 at 08:51
< report >one more thing to note, imo, is the fuckery that is win11. if that doesn't steamroll (pun intended?) the development of linux I don't know what will. on the other hand if valve somehow makes this work on linux that will be VERY interesting to watch.
#18 by encrypted12345
2021-07-23 at 09:01
< report >
Ideally, the machine would be less beefy and rather allow for VNs, light Windows tasking and games like some of Square Enix's Dragon Quest titles, Rocket League, mobile games and stuff with rather low system requirements like Koikatsu, Senran Kagura and DoAXVV and Soul Calibur, and some titles like TESVSE and F4.
Now, that would be dandy for someone like me who does tend to gravitate towards anime, indie, and otherwise non-AAA titles, but the Steam Deck was clearly marketed towards AAA players; hence the trackpads that make FPS's more playable on the device. It's clear that Valve wanted to be seen as a high spec option to the Switch. That said, when all is said and done, history has shown that the cheaper videogame handheld tends to have the advantage (much more if they have had a several year head start). There are reasons other than price that Nintendo has consistently won the handheld wars, but price was always a factor. The only decent competition that Nintendo has had when it came to handheld gaming was Sony and the PSP line, but we all know what happened to that in the end. The cheaper price along with the dual screen gimmick that lead to a greater variety of games won over the sheer graphical power of the PSP and Vita. Well, it's kind of irrelevant now that smartphones kind of took over the niche that purely handheld systems had (short bursts of affordable gameplay), but I think history will rhyme when it comes to Switch vs Valve. In Valve's case, I doubt a Steam Deck 2 will even be profitable since 99% of new games would likely still be playable on the original Steam Deck by the time that comes out.
#19 by asgryffynn
2021-07-23 at 11:23
< report >^ That's why I think someone is going to make a less powerful, but still Windows x64 console at some point. The reason Windows Mobile died was because the stunted operating system was more Android than full on Windows and most people's aversion to S Mode on Windows 10 comes from the confined nature of the OS.

People want "a cheap, small box that can do anything within reason" and despite this demographic being humongous, no one has really serviced it. With Windows 11 having access to Android apps, they may at some point decide going mobile might be worth a shot now that their catalog is essentially Android together with recent Windows software.
#20 by forever-here
2021-07-23 at 12:25
< report >
With Windows 11 having access to Android apps

wait, what?

People want "a cheap, small box that can do anything within reason" and despite this demographic being humongous, no one has really serviced it.

it is available. problem is normies are easily scared of things like emulation. otherwise link would be flying off the shelves long ago.Last modified on 2021-07-23 at 12:27
#21 by historyeraser
2021-07-23 at 12:30
< report >Emulation is kinda lame to begin with TBH, ever since I bought an RetroUSB AVS, I've converted to the church of FPGA.
#22 by asgryffynn
2021-07-26 at 11:32
< report >
it is available. problem is normies are easily scared of things like emulation. otherwise link would be flying off the shelves long ago.

Dude, I follow LTT religiously and that won't cut it unless you're limited to console. I'm talking Windows Visual Novels and some Windows games. No amount of emulation can allow you to run Senran Kagura off a phone offline and I'd know! I made a thread on running Windows VNs on UTM and am working on a way for any VN that GarBRO can read to work on iOS without needing to emulate it.

Also, yes... Android apps are coming to Windows 11.

Reply

You must be logged in to reply to this thread.