Clarification Pretty Please?

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#1 by jueloanz
2021-10-10 at 16:26
< report >I really need some explanation for my weak heart. I did enjoy every single bit of it and was wholesome until I reach the half(?) of the gameplay and then it kills my hype, whoosee.

I made this account just to ask some question for people who have played the game. Let's just straight off the bat, I hope this is only because the bad translation and my lack of interpreting the meaning behind the words.

I was confused, uneasy, annoy, sad, and betrayed of Ryoko's response to mc's question regarding did she had been slept with someone else than mc, no? But based on her settings, chances she's blatantly lying is still there, but I can't think of any reason why she lied, is it due to Tsundere tempered? It'll be much appreciated if anyone can clarifying this thing for me ASAP.

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Here some dialogues and machine translation about the matters:

Mc: 「いや……変なことを聞くが…… お前って、俺と付き合ってると思ってた時期……あったりするか?」​
Mc: "No ... I hear something strange ... When you thought you were dating me ... Is there any?"

Ryoko:「はあ?」​
Ryoko: "Huh?"

涼子が目を丸くして驚く。​
Ryoko is surprised with her eyes rounded.

この反応なら大丈夫っぽいな。​
This reaction seems to be okay.

Ryoko:「そういう関係にはならないって、あなたのほうから言ってきたんじゃない」​
Ryoko: "I didn't tell you that it wouldn't be that kind of relationship."

Mc:「そう、だっけ?」​
Mc: "Yes, right?"

Ryoko:「誰かに縛られるのは嫌だし、面倒な責任も持ちたくないって」​
Ryoko: "I don't want to be tied up by someone and I don't want to take on the hassle."

Ryoko: 「アタシは、それでも良かったからOKしたんだけど」​
Ryoko: "I was OK because it was still good."

Mc: 「今更だけどなんでOKしたんだ?  そのとき、他のセフレもいたんだろう?」​
Mc: "It's just now, but why was it OK? At that time, was there another saffle?"

Ryoko: 「複数の女の人と関係を持ってるあなたが聞く?」​
Ryoko: "Do you hear that you have relationships with multiple women?"

Mc: 「いや……まあ……」​
Mc: "No ... well ..."

Ryoko: 「セックスが好きだから……この理由以外にないでしょう」​
Ryoko: "Because I like sex ... there's no other reason than this."


Mc: 「そうか」​
Mc: "Really"​

Ryoko: 「その中でも、あなたとのセックスが一番好きよ」​
Ryoko: "Among them, I like sex with you the most."


Mc: 「……そりゃどうも」​
Mc: "... Thank you."

涼子の言葉にちょっと照れてしまう。​
I'm a little shy about Ryoko's words.

こういうストレートな言われ方に慣れてないんだよな。​
I'm not used to this kind of straightforward way of saying things.

もっとも……涼子はそれも理解した上で言ってる気がするけど。​
But ... I think Ryoko understands that as well.

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I've marked the her critical statement. Please tell me what's the conclusion of above conversation, and what is it does mc thinks that Ryoko also "understand"?

And also any clarification or explanation about the girls' innocent really had been taken by mc alone?


I played the game together with third-party apps for translation since my Japanese is very minimum. So, if the story goes heavy I can't be sure who referring to who about what sometimes but that just rarely cases and in overall I did still enjoy the story.

If I interpret Ryoko's right, then I hope I can reverse time to keep myself for misunderstand things by read Ryoko synopsis page ("She knew that Arahama just see her as a sex friend, but she loves him in secret.- what do you mean by love here, user? if she still mechakucha with bois) then accidentally skip their conversation... And please leave my double standards for another time discussion. Anyway, mc's the one who've been messing around and enjoying his life, not me, here alone, but to getting hurt and suffer by the reality of mc's (my) heroine(s) enjoying herself with another(s).

I thought this game is any differ... and to think by just one question, or aspect, can make the quality and fun of the gameplay this burden/tiresome.Last modified on 2021-10-10 at 17:53
#2 by mutsuki
2021-10-10 at 18:23
< report >the mtl is getting everything backwards at the start lmao i don't understand how anyone can say they "understand" mtl

the understands is more like "knowing that the mc isn't used to very direct way of just coming out with 'i like having sex with you the most', she said it anyway on purpose"
#3 by jueloanz
2021-10-10 at 19:24
< report >Well, some people don't have luxury read the light nor visual novels directly by raw, so people develop habit to reorganizing the translation after reading the MTL. Sounds fun, no, tho can't be help. The worst case was [Raw - MTL to Eng - MTL to my mother language]...

Anyway, in case of Ryoko, later confirmed after she drunk for some reason, she admitted herself that she lost her first time early in her student days. Here's the details:

水を一気飲みした涼子は、テーブルに突っ伏したまま愚痴りだしてきた。​
Ryoko, who drank water all at once, began to complain while lying down on the table.

Ryoko: 「それにしても……ほんっとあの男は……どれだけ失礼なのよ」​
Ryoko: "Anyway ... how rude that guy is ..."

Mc: 「……俺?」​
Mc: "……me?"

Ryoko: 「アタシのほうには何人セフレがいるのかとか……」​
Ryoko: "How many saffles do I have ..."

Ryoko: 「いるか、そんなもーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーんっっ!!!!」​
"Ryoko: Well, that kind of thing !!!!"

「……………………」​
“……………………”​

いなかったのか。​
Wasn't there?

それは、失礼しました……と、今は心の中でしか言えない。​
Excuse me ... I can only say it in my heart now.

Ryoko: 「あいつ、絶対アタシが男の経験豊富だと思ってるし……」​
Ryoko: "He definitely thinks I'm a man with a lot of experience ..."

Ryoko: 「そりゃあ初体験はちょっと早かったわよ。 学生時代、付き合った人に捧げたわよ」​
Ryoko: "Well, my first experience was a little early. I dedicated it to the people I met when I was a student."

Ryoko: 「そのあとも、何人か付き合ったけど、アタシなりに真剣だったのよ。 する前に別れた人だっているわよ」​
Ryoko: "After that, I went out with some people, but I was serious about it. I'm the one who broke up before I did."

Ryoko: 「それに今は忙しくて彼氏なんか作れないっつーのっ!!!!」​
Ryoko: "And now I'm too busy to make a boyfriend !!!!"

Ryoko: 「あの……そういうの喋っちゃっていいんすか?」​
Ryoko: "That ... is it okay to talk like that?"

Ryoko: 「他にしてる人がいるとは思ってたけど……他に4人?  会社の同僚とか学生さんとか社長さんとか……」​
Ryoko: "I thought there were other people doing it ... 4 other people? A colleague, a student, a president, etc. of the company ..."

Ryoko: 「アタシはセフレその1か2か3か4か5か6の どれなのよおぉぉぉーーーーーーーーーーーー ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーッッ!!!!!」​
Ryoko: "I'm saffle part 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6" !!!!!! "

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I have no idea to why someone decided to add "Pre-Story Virginity Loss to Protagonist" tag on her, is he just mistaken it or Ryoko actually pretend to be drunk?Last modified on 2021-10-10 at 19:26
#4 by bobjr2000
2021-10-12 at 16:45
< report >if confident on information and played game free to change it yourself.
#5 by mrkew
2021-10-12 at 18:17
< report >OP, open up, here's your answer: link
#6 by mutsuki
2021-10-12 at 19:48
< report >what the actual fuck is that website ahahahahaha
#7 by luckydaikon
2021-10-13 at 20:58
< report >Here's my interpretation of that scene, I'm missing some of the context though:

Mc: 「いや……変なことを聞くが…… お前って、俺と付き合ってると思ってた時期……あったりするか?」​
Mc: "It's just... this might be a weird thing to ask, but... did you... do anything while you thought we were dating?"

Ryoko:「はあ?」​
Ryoko: "Huh?"

涼子が目を丸くして驚く。​
Ryoko's eyes widened in surprise.

この反応なら大丈夫っぽいな。​
From her reaction, it seemed like things were ok.

Ryoko:「そういう関係にはならないって、あなたのほうから言ってきたんじゃない」​
Ryoko: "Aren't you the one who said 'It's not going to become that kind of relationship'?"

Mc:「そう、だっけ?」​
Mc: "Did I?"

Ryoko:「誰かに縛られるのは嫌だし、面倒な責任も持ちたくないって」​
Ryoko: "You said 'I don't like being tied to any one person, and I don't want to take on that kind of troublesome responsibility."

Ryoko: 「アタシは、それでも良かったからOKしたんだけど」​
Ryoko: "I said OK because I was fine with that, though."

Mc: 「今更だけどなんでOKしたんだ?  そのとき、他のセフレもいたんだろう?」​
Mc: "It's kind of late to be asking this, but why did you agree to it? At the time, you had other sex friends didn't you?"

Ryoko: 「複数の女の人と関係を持ってるあなたが聞く?」​
Ryoko: "The guy having relations with multiple women is asking that?"

Mc: 「いや……まあ……」​
Mc: "Well... yeah..."

Ryoko: 「セックスが好きだから……この理由以外にないでしょう」​
Ryoko: "Because I like sex... why else would I?"

Mc: 「そうか」​
Mc: "I see."​

Ryoko: 「その中でも、あなたとのセックスが一番好きよ」​
Ryoko: "Out of all of them, I like sex with you the most!"

Mc: 「……そりゃどうも」​
Mc: "...well thanks."

涼子の言葉にちょっと照れてしまう。​
Ryoko's words made me feel a little bashful.

こういうストレートな言われ方に慣れてないんだよな。​
I'm not used to being told that sort of thing so directly.

もっとも……涼子はそれも理解した上で言ってる気がするけど。​
Of course... I get the feeling that Ryoko knew that when she said what she did.

(She doesn't directly answer the question, but she seems a little insulted by it, so the MC concludes that she probably didn't have other partners at the time. The next part seems to back that up:)

水を一気飲みした涼子は、テーブルに突っ伏したまま愚痴りだしてきた。​
Ryoko drank the water in one gulp and started complaining with her head against the table.

Ryoko: 「それにしても……ほんっとあの男は……どれだけ失礼なのよ」​
Ryoko: "Anyway... this guy... just how rude can you get?!"

Mc: 「……俺?」​
Mc: "……me?"

Ryoko: 「アタシのほうには何人セフレがいるのかとか……」​
Ryoko: "Asking me how many sex friends I have and stuff..."

Ryoko: 「いるか、そんなもーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーーんっっ!!!!」​
"Ryoko: Like hell I have any!!!!"

「……………………」​
“……………………”​

いなかったのか。​
So she didn't have any?

それは、失礼しました……と、今は心の中でしか言えない。​
(That was... awfully rude of me)...at the moment I could only say that to myself.

Ryoko: 「あいつ、絶対アタシが男の経験豊富だと思ってるし……」​
Ryoko: "This guy, he definitely thinks I have tons of experience with men..."

Ryoko: 「そりゃあ初体験はちょっと早かったわよ。 学生時代、付き合った人に捧げたわよ」​
Ryoko: "Well, my first experience was a little young. I gave it up to the guy I was dating when I was in school."

Ryoko: 「そのあとも、何人か付き合ったけど、アタシなりに真剣だったのよ。 する前に別れた人だっているわよ」​
Ryoko: "And after that I went out with a few people, but I was serious about it in my own way. There were even some people I didn't sleep with at all before we broke up."

Ryoko: 「それに今は忙しくて彼氏なんか作れないっつーのっ!!!!」​
Ryoko: "And now I'm too busy to get a boyfriend!!!!"

Ryoko: 「あの……そういうの喋っちゃっていいんすか?」​
Ryoko: "Umm... is it ok to tell you all this?"

Ryoko: 「他にしてる人がいるとは思ってたけど……他に4人?  会社の同僚とか学生さんとか社長さんとか……」​
Ryoko: "I thought there were other people doing it... 4 other people? Like a colleague, a student, or the company president."

Ryoko: 「アタシはセフレその1か2か3か4か5か6の どれなのよおぉぉぉーーーーーーーーーーーー ーーーーーーーーーーーーーーッッ!!!!!」​
Ryoko: "Am I sex friend number 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 or what??!!!!!!"

(I am assuming that "I thought there were other people doing it" means she assumes the MC has other sex friends, but she doesn't know just how many. I'm not sure out of context but the next line seems to suggest that's what she's talking about.)
#8 by jueloanz
2021-10-14 at 09:43
< report >You are the king! Thank you very much for helping to ease my mind after such reveals.

My bad, though it was mc who said "Umm... is it ok to tell you all this?", not Ryoko. And Ryoko have met with other heroines due to FMC told mc to call all his sefure. That being said, she just ranting out as to not really expect mc to have "that" much of girls.

Besides Ryoko, I also suspect that Makiko, the company president, was not virgin before meeting mc as well. Because during their first meeting, mc "revive" back his bag which was snatched by the thief. After that he was invited to eat in a luxury apartment, later the president casually invited him to have an affair. But after doing it several times already, mc found out that it seems like she's into hardcore, aka S&M. Another reason is that almost in every scene, she would say that only he (mc) can satisfy her due to distress of the job. I'm assuming her previous partner(s) can't satisfy her. If there was none, then do you think she compare mc's skill with the way she "torture" herself? orz

The rest of heroines, except Misako, are still vague in case of did they ever slept with others after becoming one of mc's sefure.


I really looking forward to play the game since it was said all heroines first time has been taken by mc alone, yet I left a little disappointed due to some misadd tags. orzLast modified on 2021-10-14 at 10:01

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