So... the Wakatsuki sisters? (endgame spoilers)

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#1 by uberzaki
2021-10-11 at 18:57
< report >(Unmarked spoilers!!!)

Uh, this is me unloading after getting the three endings from Jabberwocky II, but anyway:

Having read the 1999 Tsui no Sora and then reading this one but in English, the Wakatsuki sisters were the main thing keeping me reading and so I was disappointed that it didn't really go anywhere for them as characters and the explanation for the rabbit was overly simplistic. So here are my questions:

My memory is hazy, but didn't Tomosane says it is weird that the older sister is the tsundere one, hinting at some larger underlying reason for this?

He also mentions that he has the phone strap with two bunnies, hinting that this is why they can appear wherever, but this is never fully explained, although in Jabberwocky II Hasaki gives him one rabbit and says she she will give him the other one after he knits her the stuffed toy. If the phone with the two bunnies means anything, then the scene where Yuki saw the apparition (actually Hasaki without the rabbit toy) should have just shown the two sisters, surely?

Also, does the fact Zakuro has a black bear keychain have any connection to this, symbolic or otherwise?

What does it mean when Kagami states she is "an existence before existence" in His Own Invention?

And Finally: In the prologue to Looking Glass Insects, 'kagami' meaning 'mirror' in Japanese is said a lot, is this just a coincidence?
#2 by kdx0r
2021-10-12 at 16:04
< report >The Wakatsuki sisters are based on the Hiiragi sisters from Lucky Star. The tsundere thing is probably just a nodge to how Konata teases Kagami for acting 'tsundere' despite being the older sister. Kagami definitely is "an existence before existence" since she is pretty much a character from another work that is older than Subahibi. The mirror thing shouldn't be a concidence and probably has to do with Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.
#3 by masturbator
2021-10-12 at 21:56
< report >#2 (kdx0r)

The mirror thing shouldn't be a concidence and probably has to do with Wittgenstein's Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus

or through the looking glass (link)
#4 by uberzaki
2021-10-14 at 12:44
< report >For Kagami to refer to herself in this way in a serious scene makes that hypothesis seem unlikely, I feel. I've thought about it some more and have realised that since she is an illusion, or possibly a vessel with a soul, it might mean she has not obtained a complete existence of some sort.

Anyway, I appreciate your input kdx0r.

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