|#1 by periah250|
2021-12-17 at 01:16
|< report >I hear theres censorship and now i dont want to touch it until a restoration patch is out.|
|#2 by Draconyan|
2021-12-17 at 01:21
|< report >There's a total of 3 CGs in the base Rewrite that got a slightly more risqué version in Rewrite+. As far as I know, the only change Sekai Project is making is to revert back to the less-risqué base Rewrite CGs.|
|#3 by hansfranz77|
2021-12-17 at 01:35
|< report >This is how it looks like and as expected the first apologist for this crap is already in the thread.|
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|#4 by periah250|
2021-12-17 at 01:50
|< report >i got aan 1011, either way restoring 3 cg should be easy.|
|#5 by Draconyan|
2021-12-17 at 02:11
|< report >I'm guessing #3 meant to link this article. I can confirm the CGs they say are in the Steam version are the same ones that were used in the original Rewrite release.|
Now I wonder what they'll do for Harvest Festa: there's at least one CG that's much riskier than all the ones in Rewrite, and I don't think there's precedents for safer versions of them this time, unless the PSV version already altered them.
|#6 by periah250|
2021-12-17 at 05:48
|< report >even riskier eh? well either way im waiting for a possible restoration patch.|
|#7 by kiru|
2021-12-17 at 07:48
|< report >@5: You are implying they will release that. Given how they already call this release Rewrite+ (which is supposed to be including it, but doesn't) I wouldn't be surprised if that FD isn't going to get released. Even if it does, it'd be many years from now.|
|#8 by satsuki|
2021-12-17 at 08:54
|< report >I mean, they "restored" the game back to its original state. What more do you want, eh?|
|#9 by nishsin|
2021-12-17 at 11:00
|< report >Everyone is so quick to blame the publishers or developers when these changes are needed when the real problem lies with Valve but so many people refuse to even acknowledge that. |
As that is the platform which will generate the most sales they are kinda forced into these situations, sure they could release on other platforms but would likely not even come close sales wise as being able to release on Steam.
Wouldn't care if Valve actually had any consistency for what is / is not allowed but that will not ever happen.
|#10 by Tremmy|
2021-12-17 at 11:30
|< report >It's easy to blame Steam but publishers really need to reassess their business strategy if their success is decided on whether or not some dickhead at Steam is feeling nice that day. Because at the end of the day it's the fans that made it possible in the first place that suffer for it. |
Publishers need to quit chasing the next Nekopara/Evenicle Steam dream because that crap isn't going to happen anymore. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the next Nekopara volume gets rejected on Steam.
|#11 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 11:42
|< report >It's 3 CGs which were made lewder for the sake of corporate greed. This isn't an eroge. Neither is it censorship, given these were the CGs in the original release.|
Almost every Rewrite+ decision was made to appease corporate, the entire rerelease was made to bank off of the anime. Frankly, your eyes are just getting red at the word "censorship" without looking at the context.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 11:42
|#12 by flvbycjctnheheh|
2021-12-17 at 12:12
|< report >It's funny to read shit like this "Some visual changes have been made to the release to satisfy Steam." when nowadays Steam allows actual nukiges to be released without any problem, hell, there's even sex in actual screenshots of some games. I.e. you can see actual sex—naked people, dicks, and pussies—on Steam itself, lol. |
@5 It took me a while to notice the difference in the first CG, lol. The second one is sexier in its "censored" form (male shirt on a girl>>>lingerie). The third one is more seducing censored as well.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 12:13
|#13 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 12:34
|< report >#12|
Those would be marked as adult games, which don't think they would fall into the regular algorithm. Rewrite isn't an adult game by any stretch of the imagination.
Also, not necessarily true. Even under adult games, there are some things that are disallowed that don't have to do with nudity. It depends on the content...and whoever is reviewing the case. It's still highly subjective. VN publishers don't like Steam as a platform because of that, it's like tossing a die every time you want to put a game on there.
|#14 by flvbycjctnheheh|
2021-12-17 at 12:46
|< report >@13 Yeah, I know. It gets even more ridiculous than that—some games without any actual porn (or where it only can be accessed with a patch) are banned because they have high schoolers as main characters. While games with blatant lolicon get a pass.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 12:46|
|#15 by mozsca|
2021-12-17 at 14:06
|< report >Why can't they both release on steam with the necessary censoring and in another storefront with the original one?|
|#16 by beliar|
2021-12-17 at 14:09
|< report >Even funnier is that it doesn't appear to be the Steam decision after all. SP arbitrarily decided that the unaltered version might not pass the Steam scrutiny, and gave the altered version for approval: link|
|#17 by kiru|
2021-12-17 at 14:44
|< report >^It's more an exception than a rule that companies censor because they have to. At least when it comes to localizing ones. Often it's because they don't like things as they are or by not knowing better. The latter however only really applies to new companies or self publishing devs from Japan and the like. Sometimes not getting any trouble is more important than preserving elements you may not even care yourself about, and may be only included because it sells in Japan.|
Still though. I feel like a publisher should never decide these things. If you can't stand behind a product as is, don't license it. Unfortunately the world doesn't work like this, and publishers are known for interfering with game development just as much as with how to sell something somewhere. Who cares about the dev intentions, really. It's a business, and when the marketing expert says "this sells better" then so be it.
For that reason I always appreciate when publishers dare things or devs actually being able to do what they really want. Even if it turns out badly.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 14:51
|#18 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 15:16
|< report >#16|
Pretty normal. Like they said, you only get one chance with Steam. I don't blame them.
Regardless, again, throwing up a huge stinker over 3 CGs which were reverted back to their original forms is just further proving the VN fandom is filled with coomers who don't care about the story and are obsessed with 18+ patches and content. If they're refunding over something like this, it's for the better. The game wasn't meant for them, they would have been sorrowly disappointed at the lack of high schooler titties anyway.
Visual Arts is clearly behind the decision too, since they did the exact same thing for the PS4 version, and it's even stated in the blogpost that they received their help.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 15:17
|#19 by hansfranz77|
2021-12-17 at 17:33
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Regardless, again, throwing up a huge stinker over 3 CGs which were reverted back to their original forms is just further proving the VN fandom is filled with coomers who don't care about the story and are obsessed with 18+ patches and content.
First of all stop using cringy memes. And second of all this proves there will be censorship happening to any vn as long as devs try and comply with valve's arbitrary bullshit , so no this is not an "overreaction" this is the only sane reaction you should have. The shitty mindset folks like you have got us into this situation in the first place, btw. And i hate everything about it!
I already took my consequences and won't be buying any vn on steam ever again. That is the only thing you should do to not feed this rotten platform more incentive to do this even more in the future.
The game wasn't meant for them, they would have been sorrowly disappointed at the lack of high schooler titties anywayAre you seriously "argueing" like a fucking games journo?! Oh.. boy i wish i could have a block option right about now. I'm incredibly fed up with this "reasoning" do yourself a favor and get the fuck out of this community, that will be for the better as well.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 18:18
|#20 by periah250|
2021-12-17 at 18:06
|< report >#18 i read the entirety of rewrite and loved it, its not the fact 'ma boobs' were covered up, its the fact some corporate douchebags get to decide what i do and dont get to see. i hate censorship because if we give it a pass then they start to censor more and more. if you give them an inch they'll take a mile. so yes i will raise a stink over 3 cgs, because if i dont theen they'll just keep doing it more and more.|
|#21 by hanamidorikawa|
2021-12-17 at 18:45
|< report >#18 might be a clown that doesn't understand why people get angry when there is censoring.|
He might learn some things reading #19 & #20 posts, should he reflect on them.
|#22 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 18:54
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there will be censorship happening to any vn as long as devs try and comply with valve's arbitrary bullshitYup. Steam is the biggest platform. They'll keep putting it on Steam since it's what makes money. You can keep getting mad over it, but it isn't going to change anything. The game will sell without your money. And from your comments, you're probably better spending it elsewhere anyway.
The shitty mindset folks like you have got us into this situation in the first place, btw.I don't look for porn in VNs. So, yes. Converting the CGs back to their original form and not the shit that got added in Rewrite+ is a win in my book. Good situation.
its the fact some corporate douchebags get to decide what i do and dont get to seeYeah, and the corporate douchebags decided you should get lewder CGs with Rewrite+. The original release didn't have those. Be honest with yourself.
if you give them an inch they'll take a mileHistorically untrue. Censorship has gotten far better in recent years. The fact that the adult section on Steam exists is proof of it, and JAST has literally made it their mission statement to deliver their games without censorship. They literally voided the option of Steam from the get-go for Muramasa in favor of putting on their own stores.
That said, Muramasa is not the kind of game that would be sold on any storefront except their own.
Again, I must insist that the lewd CGs weren't present in the original release, and were added to the game because Visual Arts wanted to make money. If Steam had rejected Rewrite+ on Steam based on those CGs, the one who would be mad here would be I. You can raise censorship debates over games that actually have porn, but this isn't one of them. Get a refund, and go buy your favorite nukige again or something.
|#23 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 18:59
|< report >#18|
I'll get mad at censorship when it affects story content. You're getting mad at the creator's vision being restored. I'm not the clown here.
|#24 by Marc402|
2021-12-17 at 19:21
|< report >#23 The creator's vision was not being restored here. They literally said it here (link) that they had to censor it to "make it acceptable for this release" aka to satisfy Valve. I believe that people should have the choice of which version they want and Sekai should release the unedited version on their own website.|
They say so directly in Update 29 as well
That post only reinforces the fact that Sekai did it because they were afraid of Steam policies and not because the writer of Rewrite had a change of heart and asked them to do it.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 19:47
|#25 by 4digitmen|
2021-12-17 at 19:25
|< report >#24|
The original game is Rewrite. The "censored" CGs are from Rewrite. Rewrite is the original vision, and the creator's.
Rewrite+ is a cashgrab made to bank off of the anime and Key fans who got mad at the thematics of the game.
They restored the CGs to the original. This is the creator's vision.
They say so directly in Update 29 as well (link)
We made a little mistake stating it was from the PS4/console version of Rewrite+ when it was from the original release of Rewrite.Last modified on 2021-12-17 at 19:27