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#126 by Yorhel
2022-09-27 at 07:47
< report >A release itself is either official or unofficial, I don't really see how a release title by itself can be unofficial. In relation to the release it's added to that is.
#127 by NaioHoras
2022-09-27 at 07:49
< report >sorry, I meant the VN entry's alternative title list.Last modified on 2022-09-27 at 07:50
#128 by Yorhel
2022-09-27 at 07:57
< report >Huh, you're right, the unofficial flag is totally ignored on VN pages. Fixed on the main site, beta still has the bug for now.
#129 by NaioHoras
2022-09-27 at 08:47
< report >ok, tested the beta feature. so if you don't fill a language with title it will show the main title instead. makes sense, but there's no indicator for that nor the indication that filling the title is optional. these empty title looks weird as hell too. I expect some confusion from them if we don't clarify.
some ideas on top of my head link linkLast modified on 2022-09-27 at 08:47
#130 by Yorhel
2022-09-27 at 08:54
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there's no indicator for that nor the indication that filling the title is optional
Yup, updated the placeholder text.

these empty title looks weird as hell too.
I agree, but the problem with using the usual dark blue color is that that is so often abused for non-official, MTL things and such that it may add even more confusion as to its meaning. How does removing those empty lines and moving the flags to the main title sound?
#131 by NaioHoras
2022-09-27 at 08:58
< report >sounds good to me.
#132 by Yorhel
2022-09-28 at 08:37
< report >Feature is live.

How does removing those empty lines and moving the flags to the main title sound?
Turns out that wasn't going to work, since we also need a place to display the MTL flag. Ended up just copying the main title to the other languages.
#133 by trickzzter
2022-09-28 at 08:42
< report >@Yorhel Something is broken. I can't edit release entries with several VNs. Such as r93115 and r43622
#134 by Yorhel
2022-09-28 at 08:48
< report >It's hilarious how many things I broke with this update. Let's see if everything is fixed now.
(Thank $DEITY for good error logging)
#135 by trickzzter
2022-09-28 at 10:39
< report >I like how it looks right now. Mifeng Xiaoying
Good job!
#136 by Ezezin
2022-09-28 at 12:46
< report >If you are into comparisons, I made two quick images from screenshots before and after the update: Just Yuri - Beta and her tears were my light - Steam Edition.Last modified on 2022-09-28 at 12:47
#137 by lunaterra
2022-09-29 at 06:55
< report >For releases, what should be used as the "main title" if the release has multiple language titles, but none are the VN's original language? eg r59387
#138 by Ileca
2022-09-29 at 07:14
< report >The language of the publisher?
In that case, it is... Korean??
(Why is Idea Factory Co., Ltd. a publisher? It is the parent company of the developer...)Last modified on 2022-09-29 at 07:39
#139 by Ezezin
2022-09-29 at 07:15
< report >Releases have a main title? Why? I mean, it makes sense if we are talking about VN entries, but why releases too? I see little value in having main title in releases when the main VN entry already has that information. I wonder how I didn't noticed that 🤔.

For the time being, I'm thinking on using the main language the company made the translation for a certain region, so for example, if Sekai Project released something in English and Chinese in European countries, the main title should be English.
For international releases, use whichever the primary language is used by the publisher.

Of course, all this only if a release has multiple language titles, but none are the VN's original language.

Again, I don't see the value in having a main title in releases, I believe the translated titles should be enough and in VN pages (when multiple languages are available) use whatever sorting system was used before the update.Last modified on 2022-09-29 at 07:18
#140 by Ileca
2022-09-29 at 07:27
< report >The main title is used to represent the release or how do you display a release title if you have five different ones? link
#141 by Ezezin
2022-09-29 at 07:48
< report >You mean an option needed for users who only want to see the title in its main language; and also needed so things don't break if someone selected that option? Hmm... I might see it's usefulness after all.

Edit: Minor suggestion: Add an original language filter for releases, just like we have for visual novel searches.Last modified on 2022-09-29 at 07:51
#142 by Yorhel
2022-09-29 at 08:05
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You mean an option needed for users who only want to see the title in its main language
I mean, that's the default. We need to somehow select a title to display in the absense of any language preferences, so that "main title" selection has to exist in some form. I can fix an algorithm to try and arbitrarily select one, but it seemed like a useful thing to manually set.

Minor suggestion: Add an original language filter for releases, just like we have for visual novel searches.
Eh, the main title is not necessarily the "original language", so not sure how useful that would be.
#143 by Ezezin
2022-09-29 at 08:18
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so that "main title" selection has to exist in some form
I understand. No further complains from my part then.

so not sure how useful that would be
It was an idea I had while I was testing the display languages and see if how it worked with releases. It's not something I will be using, so not a big deal.
#144 by qpo
2022-09-29 at 17:44
< report >If the store title is different from the in-game title, which one should we go by?

For example, r79335.5 is titled as "ドールナイト:Dreaming On the Last Li" on both the Simplified Chinese and Japanese versions of the Google Play page, while the in-game titles are different.
#145 by beliar
2022-09-29 at 18:01
< report >I always consider in-game titles to have a superior status to various store names.
#146 by Yorhel
2022-10-01 at 15:23
< report >@Ezzy, regarding d20.23, what do you mean with this line?
If an official source (stores, official websites, etc.) consistently includes a romaji title alongside the main title (like in G-senjou no Maou and Saya no Uta), both titles should be considered as a single unit.
#147 by Ezezin
2022-10-01 at 15:28
< report >Lol, bad copy/paste from the VN guideline. I was supposed to rewrite that part so it can properly fit in the release guidelines, but I completely forgot to do that *hard facepalm*.Last modified on 2022-10-01 at 15:28

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