Separating love route and NTR route

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#1 by Ezezin
2022-04-28 at 07:10
< report >From link and link :
In the Pure Love Route, you will win the heart of a sexy, married woman by saving her from a terrible fate.
In the NTR route, you will witness the main heroine being defiled by many different men.
Shouldn't those two releases have their own VN entries? It looks like the story will be different depending on what version we play. And it looks like there will be different protagonists too (Shion, Souya).
On the other hand, doing so will "break" the Trial, since there is only one, although we could relate it to both versions if it has both stories.

Edit: I think we should separate the releases by languages, since (at least in DLsite) buying the Japanese won't give the English or Chinese versions (all of them they have their own store page).
Edit 2: Also because there are some DLsite games where multiple languages are available in a single purchase, like in Ookami Shoujo to Issho, where the supported languages are both English and Japanese, and they are treated as a single release; but in Oku-sama no Kaifukujutsu, every DLsite page has a single language supported.Last modified on 2022-04-28 at 07:34
#2 by pstevo123
2022-04-28 at 11:24
< report >The story is not the same and unless they do a joint version I agree that these should have it's own listing.
#3 by lucumo
2022-04-28 at 11:32
< report >While separating it does make some sense, the physical release apparently comes on a single DVD which is why I would slightly lean towards keeping it together.
#4 by ravena
2022-04-28 at 16:31
< report >I think it would be a good idea to split them considering they are different stories and both of them should have very different tags.
I imagine that there is a significant number of people who blacklist NTR but wouldn't mind playing the 'pure-love' version of this game.
#5 by Ileca
2022-04-28 at 20:39
< report >I split the releases.

As for splitting the game itself, it makes sense but I am not for doing it.
First, the main argument against the split is that the game is released as one with r90221. It's too soon to know if it's a bundle or if the two routes are integrated as a single game.
Second, it appears to have a prologue in common. I played it for one minute and saw the two protags appear.
Third, since when are we splitting routes? Are we splitting VN by good and evil routes now?

It's two faces of the same piece. If it's sold this way, it's to also target NTR haters. If r90221 happens to be a bundle, I could reconsider my position but we are pretty much lacking information as of now.

Btw the trial's manual has the full staff if someone wants to add all that stuff:
》企画・監督				:風麟
》原画 :誉
》シナリオ :犬丼
》CG :タケペン
:ひさと
:天然水
:えびちり
》CG協力 :なりたよしやす
》背景CG :古介
》イベントCG背景 :れんれん
:荒尾
》背景総括・進行 :なかじー
》背景協力 :aquamary images
》ユニットCG :ミゲルふとし
》システムCG・印刷物・タイトルロゴ :有限会社ツインクル
》音楽・効果音 :水夏える(ASTLYRE)
》プログラム :番兵
》フレームワーク :こころ
:やすべ
》スクリプト :まさぶりんがー
》進行管理 :ADASA
》モザイク・倫理チェック :タケペン
》英語版ローカライズ :合同会社Dragonbaby
<CEO> :Jeremy Blaustein
<プロジェクトマネージャー> :Sam Burton
<翻訳> :Soku Johnson
:Molly Deerfield
<編集> :Oscar Wildpussy
》デバッグ :む~みん
:BISON
:生ダム
:ALL ALICESOFT STAFF
》デバッグ協力 :株式会社デジタルハーツ
》CV音声制作 :株式会社アルカディア・プロジェクト
<音声演出/収録> :Ben
<音声編集> :OKY
:Kanaco
:MURAMASA
<音声制作担当> :M.KOMIYA
<録音スタジオ> :アルカディア・プロジェクト・スタジオ
》エンディングムービー :KIZAWAstudio
》協力 :フォントワークス株式会社
》営業・宣伝・業務 :ワタナベ
:桜秀蘭
:OKAMURA
:macky
:ADASA
:Standstill
》製造・販売責任者 :しらきんぐ
:ぷりん
#6 by usagi
2022-04-28 at 21:03
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I split the releases.
Why it's partial then? Should be full, no? It's like standalone add-ons with normal games - the same logic. Or, if we to make more closer analogy - the so called alternative "what if" versions. Like Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 if. It's full version - isn't it? Despite that playing original Kyonyuu Fantasy 2 is probably recommended.Last modified on 2022-04-28 at 21:04
#7 by beliar
2022-04-28 at 21:07
< report >These are basically just two very different routes for the same game, so of course they are partial releases, as they comprise a single VN. I like Ileca's comparison to an Evil route. Basically you have a good and wholesome route and a dark and kinky route. Some releases separate them, but r90221 has them both (though we don't know if they are combined into a single game build), so I'm also against splitting the VN. It would be just weird.
#8 by Ileca
2022-04-28 at 21:09
< report >Dude, every VN with choices is a what if. What if I dated Kurumi instead of Momo. What if I took that banana sandwich instead of curry. Etc.

I said I split the releases... by language. This has nothing to do with full/partial. It is still a single game and NTR/Pure Love being half of it = partial. KF2if and KF2 are separate games.
#9 by ravena
2022-04-28 at 22:27
< report >Marking them as partial releases makes it really confusing in my opinion.
#10 by Ileca
2022-04-28 at 23:19
< report >Yeah, releases called "route/編" being marked as partial is really confusing...
#11 by wxyzaxb
2022-04-29 at 04:29
< report >So this game is basically NTR right? I mean, even in the "pure love" route you actually steal her from her husband?
#12 by pstevo123
2022-04-29 at 05:51
< report >Partial I feel makes it more confusing as these games are sold as a full version.
Both versions have a different cover and slightly different name I think it looks better seperate with each being listed as an Alternative version of each other
#13 by ravena
2022-04-29 at 15:49
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So this game is basically NTR right? I mean, even in the "pure love" route you actually steal her from her husband?

Pure Love version indeed sounds like Netori. On the other hand, the NTR version seems to have a 'Couple’s Bond' stat which increases/decreases based on your action, so the NTR version may have avoidable NTR.
#14 by ravena
2022-04-29 at 19:18
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While separating it does make some sense, the physical release apparently comes on a single DVD which is why I would slightly lean towards keeping it together.

The official Japanese site says there are 2 DVDs. One for each route.
#15 by lucumo
2022-04-29 at 22:18
< report >Yeah, they might have clarified it now. Then I guess they will have a single packaged version with two different covers for the DVD cases? Seems unnecessarily messy but we will see, I guess.
#16 by kur1su
2022-04-30 at 16:07
< report >pokemon vanilla and ntr
#17 by serzh
2022-04-30 at 19:32
< report >And also prologue. Hope it will be in one novel, believe for someone to combine all routes in one disc to play it. It will be more convenient this way, I suppose.
#18 by kratoscar2008
2022-04-30 at 22:27
< report >Nice idea.
Not in this game beacuse AS games are NTR but if any starter companies decide to fuck their games with cuckshit then they at least sell it separately.
Avoidable NTR is one of my most hated gimmicks.
#19 by wxyzaxb
2022-04-30 at 22:27
< report >#13
Thanks for answering. Honestly its kinda bugging me because they named it as "pure love" route even though it is not really pure love. They should named it as netori route or something else. That title is really misleading for people who want to experience the real pure love story.
#20 by pstevo123
2022-05-01 at 07:39
< report >So with the official Japanese version selling two separate DVDs I feel that is justification enough to make these two games separate entries, as each DVD is sold as a full game not a partial which is what is currently listed here
#21 by ravena
2022-05-01 at 08:07
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So with the official Japanese version selling two separate DVDs I feel that is justification enough to make these two games separate entries, as each DVD is sold as a full game not a partial which is what is currently listed here

On top of that, both games have very different mechanics. NTR route is a classic VN with choices and the Pure Love one is gameplay-focused. In Pure Love you send the protagonist to fight monsters which gives you points. When you collect enough points the next scene gets unlocked.

Both games sound very different and I also believe they should be separated to avoid confusion.Last modified on 2022-05-01 at 08:07
#22 by serzh
2022-05-01 at 17:23
< report >Ok, so we have to play two different novels then. Waiting for release.
#23 by zedwimer
2022-05-02 at 03:51
< report >For what it's worth (even if it does just muddy the waters), both DLsite and Johren are offering a "set" which includes both routes and the prologue for one price. I don't know if it's all in one .exe or if you end up installing two or three separate games, but it's all in a single purchase:

(DLsite) A Housewife's Healing Touch -Pure Love NTR Route Set-

(DLsite) 奥さまの回復術 純愛寝取られセット

(Johren) A Housewife's Healing Touch -Both routes-Last modified on 2022-05-02 at 03:57
#24 by Ezezin
2022-05-02 at 03:53
< report >Check r90224 and r90223.
#25 by zedwimer
2022-05-02 at 04:03
< report >#24 so physical DVD bundles are okay but download bundles are not? I'm not advocating for one way over the other, just trying to understand the reasoning.