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#51 by cross
2014-06-04 at 16:07
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I think most people here don't even know what 'weeaboo' actually describes

It is used to describe a western person who loves jap media so much that he longs to be as Japanese as possible himself out of a misguided admiration. They usually end up as sad caricatures. Common features are: bits of (wrongly used) Japanese in their writing/speech, an uncritical and overzealous love for everything as long as it's Jap, extreme fanboyism for Japanese actors, authors, singers etc., usually a profound dislike for mainstream fans, who occassionally watch an english subbed anime and having no problems with it, ambitious participation in cosplay and related conventions and a deviantart account full of bad fanart/fanfiction.

The term is also used as a general stab at fans of JP media regardless of intensity, sometimes (self-)ironically. A synonym is "Wapanese" (white + japanese).

Therefore: if you are a "hardcore fan" and even want to learn JP because of it, you CAN be called a weaboo within the definition of the term.Last modified on 2014-06-04 at 16:15
#52 by tyr
2014-06-04 at 16:42
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Therefore: if you are a "hardcore fan" and even want to learn JP because of it, you CAN be called a weaboo within the definition of the term.
No, you can't.
There is a difference between "I want to learn Japanese!!!11 That would be soo awesome!! >w<" and someone who is serious about his hobby and will even learn a whole language for it.

Weeabooism is superficial. Don't confuse it with someone who is taking his hobby seriously.Last modified on 2014-06-04 at 16:43
#53 by moyang
2014-06-04 at 16:48
< report >Another translation thread necro and this? lol.
#54 by overmage
2014-06-04 at 16:57
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There is a difference between "I want to learn Japanese!!!11 That would be soo awesome!! >w<" and someone who is serious about his hobby and will even learn a whole language for it.

if you keep telling yourself that, it might come true some day!

Weeabooism is superficial. Don't confuse it with someone who is taking his hobby seriously.

weebs are always serious, that's the pointLast modified on 2014-06-04 at 16:58
#55 by cross
2014-06-04 at 17:03
< report >@52

That's up to who you ask. For a COD player you are a weaboo if you play a Tales or Final Fantasy game. The western societies are very derogatory, especially in the anonymous internet. A guy with serious in-depth knowledge of Japanese eroge authors will be called a freak, even if his admiration is not different from a musician or ambitious soccer player.

Weaboo is sometimes used strictly in the sense you think of (superficial wannabe Jap) and sometimes as a general jab against fans of Jap media. You can see that here: link : there are examples for strict and loose definitions, so it's up to the individual to decide how far the term Weeaboo reaches.

If it's appliable in this case is also subjective. I would say "hardcore fan" and "learning Jap" allow the use of the loose Weeaboo definition, if it's not meant too seriously and you are aware what the term originally described.Last modified on 2014-06-04 at 17:13
#56 by pendelhaven
2014-06-04 at 18:23
< report >then I suppose we can already pinpoint where all this weeaboo-ism name started. westerners hate everything that's not violence. the reason why GTA 4/5 and COD sales are high. they hate JP in particular, maybe because of the events of Pearl Harbor.

I... really don't know anymore. I see America as a violent country. Obama isn't really helping either. Their mainstream songs are full of violence, sex, police and drugs.
#57 by moyang
2014-06-04 at 18:29
< report >Not really. Otaku culture is looked down in Japan too.
#58 by veronin
2014-06-04 at 21:22
< report >I don't quite see the harm in being called "weeaboo" by some random low-IQ teenager. Actually, there is no situation where you would even be called one if you keep the hobby to yourself like you should. I guess your close friends might find out?

And yeah, there's a clear difference between somebody who has loli posters and half-naked anime body pillows all over his room, and somebody who is into Japanese entertainment for its critical value. Most of us are the latter (I would hope). Most of MAL and the anime fandom is the former. I think when you're reading untranslated eroge, you have long passed the childish obsession phase.
#59 by moyang
2014-06-04 at 22:58
< report >^ What we call this, a hipster weeaboo?
#60 by ffthewinner
2014-06-04 at 23:10
< report >...excuse me. do you people even know what weeaboo means?it doesnt mean"hardcore anime/VN fan". it means"hardcore japan fan who believes that japan is the best place in the world,dismisses his own identity and tries to act like a japanese,refuses to hear any criticism towards japan,and believes everything japanese is infenitiely superior to everything westerner". i am far from that. i have hold long conversations about the extreme problems of japan,my fav genre is WRPG,etc etc.i am interested in learning about japan as a respectful and great culture,but i aint a blind fanboy.
#61 by PabloC
2014-06-05 at 09:14
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And yeah, there's a clear difference between somebody who has loli posters and half-naked anime body pillows all over his room, and somebody who is into Japanese entertainment for its critical value.
Oh, I don't have a single loli poster in my room, so I guess I'm not a weeeboo. :P

Jokes aside, I wanted to ask if some of you guys know what the term "weeaboo" actually means, but #60 already did it, so I have nothing to add.
#62 by overmage
2014-06-05 at 09:24
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I don't quite see the harm in being called "weeaboo" by some random low-IQ teenager. Actually, there is no situation where you would even be called one if you keep the hobby to yourself like you should.

>posts on a internet forum thread for porn chinese cartoon games telling everyone how b0ss he is at playing them and how he learned a language just to play these chinese cartoon games

>says anyone who doesn't follow that hobby is either lazy, a football-watching fratboy or someone who is incredibly busy

if you keep the hobby to yourself like you should.

>does this repeatedly in multiple threads to shove it in everyone's face

if you keep the hobby to yourself

whatever makes you happy my high-iq 30-year old br0. マジ思い上がるんだぞ、あんちゃん。

@51: exactly

@57: it's not quite as bad as the west, but you still wouldn't want to tell an average person here you just met that you really like 2d (unless you know for sure the other party is the same way). so you're mostly right

@59: yes. hipster weeb sounds about right. "I r not weeb because I r havings interest of critical value I r only watching/reading HIGH CLASS animu not the garbage naruto the plebeians watch"

@60: the more defensive you appear the more like a weeb you look. if you find yourself having to defend a fervent love for Japanese 2d culture and paint it as having some sort of morally and intellectually superior cause behind it that elevates you above weeabooism or extenuating circumstances I have some good news for you. after all, we all know that in the Year of Our Lord 2014 it was decreed that ffthewinner of the Visual Novel Database would henceforth seal the definition of internet lingo for ages to come.Last modified on 2014-06-05 at 10:03
#63 by tyr
2014-06-05 at 09:41
< report >Well, the funny thing about weeaboo is, that the term originally should only be used ironically, to make light fun of his own fandom. As a result, most anime fans use it nowadays as a derogative to describe those superficial people, who #60 defined, because every "true" anime/japan fan hates them. (I also use the term frequently to dissociate myself from those weeaboos, because I'm an elitist lol)

I think people who use the term to describe fans of Japanese media in general like #55 said, don't get the nuance of the word. It illustrates their arrogance, because in their ignorant eyes, all fans of Japanes media are the same and look like link lol

Well, all prejudices aside... I still don't think someone who seriously studies Japanese should be called a weeaboo (except ironically of course).
#64 by overmage
2014-06-05 at 09:44
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because I'm an elitist lol

yes, keep telling yourself you're better
at least you admit this much

Well, the funny thing about weeaboo is, that the term originally should only be used ironically, to make light fun of his own fandom.

lel

As a result, most anime fans use it nowadays as a derogative to describe those superficial people

lelLast modified on 2014-06-05 at 09:47
#65 by tyr
2014-06-05 at 09:48
< report >I think you should learn to read between lines. I really tried to make it easy for you.
#66 by overmage
2014-06-05 at 09:49
< report >do you also look up definitions of may mays on knowyourmeme.com? :^) and if you read between my lines you get the letter e :o)Last modified on 2014-06-05 at 09:54
#67 by tyr
2014-06-05 at 09:57
< report >Thanks for proving my point.
#68 by overmage
2014-06-05 at 09:59
< report >||||||||||| based tyr tells it like it is :^) |||||||||||Last modified on 2014-06-05 at 10:02
#69 by ffthewinner
2014-06-05 at 10:03
< report >@62:ok. your argument is officially stupid. it is like insulting someone,then when this one gets annoyed that he is insulted,you try to make it like he is confirming the insult. it just doesnt work that way. the word has a definition,and is a mocking word. i dont fit that definition at all. it is as simple as that.

EDIT:alright. now you are officially trolling lol. i am done arguing XDLast modified on 2014-06-05 at 11:04
#70 by overmage
2014-06-05 at 10:05
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we all know that in the Year of Our Lord 2014 it was decreed that ffthewinner of the Visual Novel Database would henceforth seal the definition of internet lingo for ages to come.

things mean what you want them to because you are the master of may mays. congratulations!

For a less blatantly insulting and more informative response to your drivel, see posts #51 and #55.

@67: I'll be nice to you and give one small hint as to why I did not seriously reply to your claptrap earlier. Name one instance in this thread where I ever said I was a fan of Japan/anime (does not even need to be "true fan"), or even that I was not a weeaboo :^)Last modified on 2014-06-05 at 10:50
#71 by gerardlonewolf
2014-06-05 at 10:17
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we all know that in the Year of Our Lord 2014 it was decreed that ffthewinner of the Visual Novel Database would henceforth seal the definition of internet lingo for ages to come.

-clapclapclap-
#72 by gabezhul
2014-06-05 at 11:29
< report >*sigh* I am not able to properly participate on VNDB for a few days because of work and I have to come back to this...?
Seriously guys, are we in kindergarten?

Anyways, the thread is pretty much derailed into pointlessness at this point, so I will just lock it and try to forget this clusterfuck ever happened.

Also, Overmage: For your behavior in this thread, I give you your second warning (at least it's your second warning according to my list). Behave yourself or I will be forced to take drastic measures (which means either painting your room pink while you are sleeping or temp-banning you, whichever I will be in the mood for at the time).

So yeah, lock and have a nice day.

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