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#1 by anonymous
2011-09-09 at 22:27
< report >Here is an excerpt from the editing history of v7878:

eyeless: Reverted to revision v7878.2 CGs are not screenshots

me: Correction to the previous release: No, they were actual screenshots, only with the company logo present. The game is a training simulation, and unless you don't do something, you often don't see a dialogue box.

(I replaced all the images with the ones lacking the logo)

yorhel: I couldn't care less, it's still not allowed per d2#6. Next change to the screenshots either follow the guidelines or can expect scary punishment(tm).

And god please read this: link

Either you're abused, aggressive high school kids, or you're just an ass.
It hasn't been even a day since I registered, and I feel offended again again and again. I'm done with this site.

This site is more or less a wiki, which means users work for this site. Just what you think this kind of attitude towards your users will bring to you?

Please delete my account.
#2 by azathoth
2011-09-09 at 22:30
< report >"It is highly recommended to follow our instructions on creating good screenshots if you don't want your efforts to go to waste."

Well, I don't really consider a screenshot with a logo stamped across it as a "good screenshot". Just take a few screenshots ingame and you will have no problems.
#3 by anonymous
2011-09-09 at 22:38
< report >Just because you forewarn someone does not justify an offensive attitude. (and I would like to emphasize that I feel greatly offended by "instructions on creating good screenshots"). And yes, the replacements were actual screenshots, taken by me.

Yes, and it is not where I had a problem. I replaced them with actual pictures.
#4 by azathoth
2011-09-09 at 22:47
< report >The offensive attitude you're talking about is because they deal with stuff like this almost on a daily basis I'd assume.

At least half of the images should be actual screenshots of the game. That is, they should include character sprites or some form of dialog or user interface. Plain event CG images without any text or interfaces are allowed to demonstrate the drawing style, but should not dominate over the other screenshots.
All those screenshots were of CG. I think you wrote something like that the game isn't much text at all, but if it isn't, is it still enough to be classified as a visual novel? And if it is, then you should have included some of those. Because screenshots are there to introduce the game to you, not being a CG gallery.

But then again, if you want to make edits it'd be a good idea to wait a while and see how other people do it and then mimic that. It won't go wrong at least.
#5 by gabezhul
2011-09-09 at 22:54
< report >... Hey there drama queen. Have you even read the screenshot-instructions? I presume you did, otherwise you would not have linked it in your op post... But in that case I have to assume you has some serious trouble understanding them, especially these two points:
At least half of the images should be actual screenshots of the game. That is, they should include character sprites or some form of dialog or user interface. Plain event CG images without any text or interfaces are allowed to demonstrate the drawing style, but should not dominate over the other screenshots.

Uploading screenshots with erotic content is allowed, as long as the ratio of erotic/non-erotic screenshots is somewhat in line with the actual erotic/non-erotic ratio of the VN itself. For example, if a 10 hour VN has only 2 H-scenes of 10 minutes, it wouldn't be appropriate to upload more than 2 or 3 erotic images. On the other hand, if a VN is mostly about sex, it wouldn't make sense to upload only one erotic screenshot. It is advised - even for the sex-only games - to have at least one non-erotic screenshot.

Out of the 10 screenshots you uploaded 9 were HCGs without any text or whatsoever and no interface at all. Rage and play the victim as much as you want but if you do not adhere to the guidelines, don't be surprised when you get reprimanded.
#6 by anonymous
2011-09-09 at 23:00
< report >Apparently, you don't know the game interface. All of those images are screenshots (of the main frame) from the game. The remaining region of the game (which, by default, included the dialogue box that appears *only* when there is some event) depends on options, and cover the whole screen normally, which makes the screenshoot size very big. In fact, apparently, even your ten-commandments-style rule list, brought upon by the almighty, all-superior site owner, says it's "not allowed":

"All images must be in the highest native resolution of the VN. The native resolution is the resolution for which the bitmap images are made, this is 640x480 or 800x600 for most entries. Any upscaling or downscaling, whether done by the game engine itself or by manually using an image editor, is not allowed!"

I also explained that in my first comment. That's because the game is *not* a visual novel.
See this page: link

You may argue that "then it should not be posted to this site", and I would have understand it. But that was not the point of the editor of this site.

And here comes another one:
"... Hey there drama queen. "
Way to speak to your users, that add content to your site for free. In Japan, nobody would use such a website with such rude, undisciplined owners.

Do you know the game? 99% percent of the game is ecchi-scenes.
See the above explanation for the lack of the dialogue window.


Anyway, it's pointless to argue. I feel offended by the attitude overall, I retracted every contribution I have done so far, and I don't want to contribute any more.

Please, delete my account.Last modified on 2011-09-09 at 23:07
#7 by atlas
2011-09-09 at 23:06
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I also explained that in my first comment. That's because the game is *not* a visual novel.
See this page: link

You may argue that "then it should not be posted to this site", and I would have understand it. But that was not the point of the editor of this site.

Um, if it's not a visual novel, then why did you start this whole mess the first place?

As for deleting your account why should yorhel or anyone else do any extra work on your account. Perhaps you could just stop posting and go away. After that you can delete your browser history and forget about vndb. Then the rest of us can laugh at what a whiny little bitch you are after you leave.
#8 by izmosmolnar
2011-09-09 at 23:10
< report >If you agree yourself that it's not a VN then why did you added it?
#9 by gabezhul
2011-09-09 at 23:11
< report >Wow... congratulation, you successfully made all your points moot with this. Yorhel reprimanded you because of the screenshots and not because of this is not a VN? No shit Sherlock! So you added a game that is admittedly not a visual novel to a visual novel database, and YOU are the one who is offended by the mods complaining about the nonconform screenshots of a game they probably never heard about before and that they only let into the database because they gave you the benefit of the doubt, thinking you probably knew what you were doing when you added it? And you have the nerve to openly insult them and call them immature asses? Have you no shame?! D:<

P.S.: You also got the order wrong: It's not yorhel and us mods who should be thankful for your contributions, but you should be garteful that there is a site dedicated to collecting data on VNs on the first place. But I digress, between your mountain-sized false feeling of entitlement and your whining I think you have no time for such useless things as introspection anyways...
#10 by anonymous
2011-09-09 at 23:12
< report >> Um, if it's not a visual novel, then why did you start this whole mess the first place?

I didn't start a "mess". I just added a game. The source of the mess is your undisciplined attitude.
If I was told "sorry, but this game is not a visual novel, so we have to delete it", I wouldn't feel offended to that degree. Please follow the discussion.

Why I added it? That's because there were other training simulations in this site (such as 花と蛇), and I thought they are included.

> Perhaps you could just stop posting and go away.
That's what I want, eventually. I don't think leaving a conversation in the middle and turning your back to the other person is a good behaviour.

I did not insult anyone. That attitude is very undisciplined and immature. It was a statement of fact, as I comprhended.
Not conforming a rule is one thing. The way of speech and choice of words is something else.Last modified on 2011-09-09 at 23:19
#11 by atlas
2011-09-09 at 23:17
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I didn't start a "mess". I just added a game. The source of the mess is your undisciplined attitude.

Actually, I'm not a staff member here, so it has nothing to do with my attitude. As far as I see, as gabe pointed out, you were given the benefit of the doubt by yorhel that the game you adding was a proper for this data base. You were simply told to follow established rules about screenshots.Last modified on 2011-09-09 at 23:17
#12 by gabezhul
2011-09-09 at 23:19
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Not conforming a rule is one thing. The way of speech and choice of words is something else.
Says the guy who called the staff "Either you're abused, aggressive high school kids, or you're just an ass."...

Whatever, I refuse to tolerate this any longer. The thread is locked, and you can go away or do whatever you want, but I guess I speak in the name of the community when I say that we won't really miss you...

<Edit: Damn, I was called away before I could lock this... well, I guess better later than never... -.-'>Last modified on 2011-09-09 at 23:27
#13 by anonymous
2011-09-09 at 23:20
< report >> Not conforming a rule is one thing. The way of speech and choice of words is something else.
> You were simply told to follow established rules about screenshots.

Could you please read carefully?
#14 by azathoth
2011-09-09 at 23:27
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The thread is locked
Gabe, I think you forgot to actually lock the thread.
#15 by yorhel
2011-09-10 at 06:53
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Please delete my account.
Request honored.
#16 by eyeless
2011-10-14 at 13:47
< report >See t2114.7.

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