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#3553 by kammymagica
2021-01-14 at 06:37
< report >Just admit you were wrong for using a slur, stop being such a coward
#3554 by falseshepherd
2021-01-14 at 07:11
< report >retard ain't a slur. stop tryna shame a mod that's just frustrated about a bunch of people trolling and adding shit to the database that's clearly not VNs.
#3555 by falseshepherd
2021-01-14 at 07:12
< report >btw, i'd like to once again raise my concern about the Persona 4 fighting and dancing games still being in the database. really don't think they belong on VNDB.
#3556 by mondblut
2021-01-14 at 09:31
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btw, i'd like to once again raise my concern about the Persona 4 fighting and dancing games still being in the database. really don't think they belong on VNDB.

I haven't played the fighting games, but since when is P4 Dancing All Night a controversial entry? I've played it few years ago and it clearly has lengthy uninterrupted VN segments between the rhythm portions which use a classic ADV mode for dialogue, 2D character sprites in front of 2D backgrounds and even CGs. It is as much a VN as Utawarerumono.Last modified on 2021-01-14 at 09:32
#3557 by bcirno
2021-01-14 at 13:41
< report >since when patches added to releases?
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#3558 by beliar
2021-01-14 at 16:18
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since when patches added to releases?
Since never, and *poof* it's gone.

but since when is P4 Dancing All Night a controversial entry
I also cannot understand why people keep bringing that game up. From what I have seen on Youtube, it fulfills every criteria for a hybrid VN, with plenty of narration, large uninterrupted plot sequences and short dance sequences.
#3559 by npzmzfg
2021-01-14 at 18:34
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Since never, and *poof* it's gone.

This got a bit longer than I intended, so allow me to apologize in advance.

How different versions should be represented in VNDB is something I've been wondering about, since VNDB contains quite a few cases like this.

Based on your answer, I'm guessing that the patches r61495, r63144, and r63868 should all be deleted, and changes such as additional languages should be folded back into the original release (r61113)? Presumably that also applies to r61730, r61729, which are marked as complete releases but are just subsequent numbered versions of the oldest release (r61731).

But what about fan patches that are released in increments, such as for Akatsuki no Goei and Hatsukoi 1/1? Should each new patch get a new release or should they be folded into one release? Similarly, does a "polished version of previous patch" deserve its own release (r59868) or should it be folded into the original release (r73535)?

The guidelines for adding/editing releases (d3) do not touch on versions like the above, so perhaps that could be clarified to help reduce the number of spurious additions.

There are also a lot of cases where one release has been noted to have been superseded by another, some of which should perhaps be removed (see e.g. r50302):
SELECT * FROM releases WHERE notes ILIKE '%superseded%';
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#3560 by beliar
2021-01-14 at 19:03
< report >Okay, here we go:

Based on your answer, I'm guessing that the patches r61495, r63144, and r63868 should all be deleted, and changes such as additional languages should be folded back into the original release (r61113)?
r61495, r63144 should be deleted, as they seem to only be bugfixes. r63868 adds JP translation, hence it deserves a separate release entry. However, that VN entry is a bit of a mess. Itchio does not distribute separate patches, but rather full builds. That means r63868 should be turned into a standalone entry with both JP and EN options.

The addition of a new language, especially on platforms like Steam or Itchio, where a full build is distributed, calls for the creation of a new release entry with all the available languages. In that case, the superseded entries are not removed.

Presumably that also applies to r61730, r61729, which are marked as complete releases but are just subsequent numbered versions of the oldest release (r61731).
Will have to investigate that. Majorly improved demos sometimes are given a new release, but in this case that might not be necessarily. The guidelines in relation to demos are much less strict, or rather nonexistent... :-(

But what about fan patches that are released in increments, such as for Akatsuki no Goei and Hatsukoi 1/1? Should each new patch get a new release or should they be folded into one release?
If the same group is releasing the patch in increments, then only a single release entry is maintained.

For example, for Akatsuki no Goei, only a single patch by Daybreak Translations will remain when it's completed. The current partial will be removed upon completion. For Hatsukoi the situation is more complicated. the first patch translated the full game but not the append disc, the second patch also translated the append, and the third patch had major retranslations. Thus all three entries are maintained. Re-translations also deserve a new entry.

Similarly, does a "polished version of previous patch" deserve its own release (r59868) or should it be folded into the original release (r73535)?
Hoshi Ori Yume Mirai is a borderline case and could be done either way, Not sure how extensive the script revisions are. I don't have a strong case for one or two releases.

There are also a lot of cases where one release has been noted to have been superseded by another, some of which should perhaps be removed (see e.g. r50302)
This case I have already addressed above. This is a release that has been superseded by the addition of a new language. In that case the superseded release is not removed.Last modified on 2021-01-14 at 19:04
#3561 by npzmzfg
2021-01-14 at 19:40
< report >Thank you for the explanation!
#3562 by mutsuki
2021-01-14 at 22:49
< report >I'd just like to confirm that Persona 5 Dancing In Starlight is a real game, and no it isn't a VN unlike the Persona 4 version as it doesn't have the story mode VN sections like P4DAN, so the deletion was justified. I didn't know where to say that so I just put it here.Last modified on 2021-01-14 at 22:52
#3563 by beliar
2021-01-14 at 23:04
< report >Good to know.
That said, it's totally weird seeing you with a new name. Your old one was so recognizable...
#3564 by mutsuki
2021-01-14 at 23:40
< report >#3563, on another site that I go on, someone who hadn't changed their user name for 10 years changed it and it was (and still is) trippy af. half the time i type the wrong name and have to retype it...
#3565 by jazz957
2021-01-15 at 01:20
< report >Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3: The Trial It's happening again.

Nevermind, apparently it's actually real and a VN?Last modified on 2021-01-15 at 01:23
#3566 by eacil
2021-01-15 at 03:00
< report >The trial is a VN. Edit: it has mini games and barely any narration though. Beliar could probably remove it... I won't because I am too afraid of the twiter crowd.
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#3568 by ninius
2021-01-18 at 04:41
< report >Arata Daisaku is a duplicate of Arata Daisaku
#3569 by trickzzter
2021-01-19 at 06:49
< report >Rainbow Flute Studio is a dupe of Hong Zhi Di Youxi TuanduiLast modified on 2021-01-19 at 07:06
#3570 by trickzzter
2021-01-19 at 07:06
< report >Xue Zhong Hua is a dupe of You Ling Lan -Lily of the Hollow-

They released it on Steam for the 3rd time under a different name.

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