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#2876 by beliar
2019-08-23 at 19:54
Pure Affection is the updated version of Yuri Affection with a new title, should both vn pages be kept?
I have checked a bit of both and graphically they are identical. The text seems to have some minor rewrites in Pure Affection, but majority of it seems to be the same. I merged the entries.

CTH Translations nothing released yet.
CTH Translations seems to have some relation to GoS Ita, but I struggle to understand what. The groups share the same website and at the very least they are supposedly working on the Clannad translation, which has a previous partial by GoS Ita. Anyway, they did release a few partials, which were never added to the db, so I'll rectify this oversight.
#2877 by essword
2019-08-24 at 12:15
link is an alias of link

Source:
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#2878 by harleyquin
2019-08-29 at 13:40
r65740.1

Saintlucian

Unofficial machine translation and related staff entry.
#2879 by chipp12
2019-08-29 at 20:16
Hatsumira Z1
r47472
As I've said long time ago it's not happening, and I'm afraid that the translation of the original game is at the same stage. No news/updates about either for 2-3 years already and it looks like these days Frontwing is more focused on developing short eroge for 18+ stuff and Grisaia-related products for all ages stuff.Last modified on 2019-08-29 at 20:16
#2880 by gvbn
2019-09-01 at 06:34
edit: nevermind, I'm going to make the appropriate changesLast modified on 2019-09-01 at 06:38
#2881 by eacil
2019-09-04 at 07:07
r65467 was removed from steam.
#2882 by beliar
2019-09-04 at 14:50
^And I was not in the least surprised...
#2883 by ernovace
2019-09-04 at 19:11
I personally think r62050 shouldn't exist because the patch is not going to be made public. If it is not made public, there's no way to verify if it actually exists.

Source: link (last post)Last modified on 2019-09-04 at 19:12
#2884 by beliar
2019-09-04 at 19:55
Umm, yeah, that's ummm yeah an innovative way to spread the VN love. Translate the game and hold the patch hostage. It's not like these guys intend to sell the patch to any localization group, which would normally be the only reason not to release a translated game.

Oh, well, it doesn't matter. If the patch is not actually available to the public, then it shouldn't have a release either. Though it's entirely possible that it might be leaked one of these days.
#2885 by 707
2019-09-06 at 10:03
are the releases in Last Day of Spring necessary? they just added another language along with previously released language in every updates. i think one release is enough and every updates can be written in the note?
#2886 by hoaitrung97
2019-09-06 at 11:28
@beliar

Hello, I wonder if vndb have any ruler ban post a translation project dont allow release public?

It was weird, my team has effort to do it, but unfortunately we had to stop publicizing it for some other reason, of course it wasn't for profit or fake.

What I find annoying, you deny all our efforts, while there are still many other projects that actually died for years and even their sites too, some not even exist, but them still kept. :(

And we were removed just because we didn't make it public, isn't it weird? Does VNDB have rule about this? Or do you just do what you like?

PS: I am talking about r62050 problem.

I started to wonder, vndb only allowed to post a data project translation, when it only needed a few sceenshot and link to their site, and even if it died or didn't exist, it would still be retained and recognized, and About posts that are completed but not released publicly will be considered fake, even if them exist, they will be removed?Last modified on 2019-09-06 at 11:48
#2887 by eacil
2019-09-06 at 12:09
I feel you, I spent ten years of my life translating WA2, nothing like the hacks you who tried to tackle the job until now, and I only gave it to a few friends because I didn't want to infringe copyright. But those damn mods don't accept it here even though it exists! I mean, why can't people know they won't ever have this wonderful translation? That is so unfair!
#2888 by hoaitrung97
2019-09-06 at 12:31
@eacil

Yeah, that right. :(

Well, I alway think vndb is a great place to store data of visual novel and fan translation, but that's only if you're an ordinary person looking for a visual novel, and when you're the owner of a post, a project, I'm sure you'll get strangled to death for the Mods, just because it doesn't satisfy them.

I have no reason to be angry, but it annoys me, when you even deny the efforts of others, for a dissatisfied reason, even you don't confirm it clearly or directly ask owner of that post. :(Last modified on 2019-09-06 at 12:32
#2889 by sakurakoi
2019-09-06 at 13:55
@somebody who missed the sarcasm: lawl
#2890 by beliar
2019-09-06 at 16:45
@hoaitrung97: Do you know what a Release is? It's something that has been released to the public, either for free or behind a paywall. Now, can I download the translation patch from your site? Seemingly no. Can I send you money and receive the patch in exchange? Apparently no, as you have said so on the Fuwanovel forums.

Now, which part makes your patch released? Is that the part, where no one has seen that mysterious patch and the screens on your site might as well be photoshopped for all we know? We don't add translation patches to the DB once the translator says they have hit a 100% milestone. No, we add the releases, when the patch is packaged and given to the public.

while there are still many other projects that actually died for years and even their sites too, some not even exist, but them still kept
Show me any of those projects and they will likely be deleted. But I'm sure you won't be able to point any to me, because we don't keep vaporware on our site. Correction: see t2108.2892

Or do you just do what you like?
Is that even a real question? O_o Of course I'm just doing what I like. Nyaa...

About posts that are completed but not released publicly will be considered fake, even if them exist, they will be removed?
Whatever even gave you an idea that adding "releases" that were not released publicly is okay? We don't even have a separate rule for that, because it's just common sense.

Yeah, that right. :(
Perception fail. Hint: Eacil was trolling you.

but that's only if you're an ordinary person looking for a visual novel, and when you're the owner of a post, a project, I'm sure you'll get strangled to death for the Mods, just because it doesn't satisfy them
I won't even deign that with a serious answer, so here, have a cat video:
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#2891 by rampaa
2019-09-06 at 16:59
Show me any of those projects and they will likely be deleted. But I'm sure you won't be able to point any to me, because we don't keep vaporware on our site.
r5504, r5507, r5510
#2892 by beliar
2019-09-06 at 17:02
@707: Currently we DO add separate releases every time a new language is added to the build. It's quite cumbersome and I hope a different system is devised in the future. Anyway, the entry for Last Day of Spring is correct according the present guidelines.

@rampaa: Oh, I misunderstood what he said. If he talked about the projects that are not available ANYMORE, that's a different kind of business. They were available once, even if behind a paywall - there is a reason why I mentioned a paywall for our Vietnamese friend. If he had released his patch for purchase and, say, disappeared a year later with the website dying too, the release entry for the patch would have all the reasons to remain in the DB, even if we couldn't purchase it anymore.

The DB archives information, and the information becoming obsolete does not make it ineligible to be included. The information not even existing (like a patch no one has seen) is a different business.Last modified on 2019-09-06 at 17:07
#2893 by rampaa
2019-09-06 at 17:14
The information not even existing (like a patch no one has seen) is a different business.
I am not really arguing otherwise but did anyone from here see the aforementioned patches with their own eyes to confirm that they really did exist once? I know I've never met with anyone who did.
#2894 by beliar
2019-09-06 at 17:19
Well, Words Worth patch exists and is available online. Apparently that's the only one that people managed to salvage after the collapse of Fun Translations.

That gives the benefit of the doubt regarding the other patches. It's very unlikely the group only translated one game and scammed people about all those other patches hoping that people will only buy the Words Worth patch or something.
#2895 by sakurakoi
2019-09-06 at 17:22
By the by it is not unlikely for a lost patch/release to be still found somewhere, by someone and even shared i.e released.

So the irony is, if one were to leak their patch on whatever public platform and delete it right afterwards, one could in theory add it, however then the mods will indeed do what they deem as right and as they like for common sense beats the crap out of whatever toxic rant. Just because you find loop-holes does not mean you can use them and troll away~
#2896 by rampaa
2019-09-06 at 17:25
@beliar: They apparently claimed that they've also translated Marionette Company (link), so should we go ahead and add a release for that as well? How far does that benefit of doubt go?Last modified on 2019-09-06 at 17:25
#2897 by beliar
2019-09-06 at 17:33
My benefit of the doubt works as intended. Marionette Company can not be found on their waybacked website, hence it's not included here, as we only heard about that from a third party. If it was found that it was indeed translated some time ago, the release would be added.
#2898 by shining17
2019-09-06 at 17:53
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#2899 by butterflygrrl
2019-09-06 at 18:49
Judging from the google cache for the now-removed demo of Scrimshaw Bluff ( link )

it looks like that game was an early version of what was just released as Noonday Descent: The Path of Listlessness and Torpor

Should r52905 be removed? Should these two titles be folded together? (Sorry I didn't realise this when I added the new game)Last modified on 2019-09-06 at 18:51
#2900 by hoaitrung97
2019-09-06 at 21:51
@beliar

That confuses me, got it, I have no reason to continue this topic anymore. Btw I'm still proud that we tried our best and didn't give up to complete it like others (who was working on this game before). Even if it is not accepted to exist here, no one can deny that we have finished it. :(

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