Candidates for deletion
|#3251 by beliar|
2020-06-30 at 09:48
|Awww, Eacil, you're such a lazy bones.|
|#3252 by eacil|
2020-06-30 at 10:08
|My first sentence comes as a little~ rude as she came for a confirmation and I am sorry for that. I agree with her and ask her to merge the entries like she knows the games better than me. It will be faster than if I have to recheck everything.|
|#3253 by savagetiger|
2020-06-30 at 14:13
|I think Hoshi no Oujo: Hikari no Tsubasa ~Koi no Patissier~ and Yume o Mou Ichido: Koufuku no Kaze should stay as separate entries, even if they require the original game, they're still separate stories and it helps keep the info about routes and votes neat.|
|#3254 by beliar|
2020-06-30 at 14:26
they're still separate storiesAre they separate stories, though? If they are fandiscs that add a self-contained side-story to the main release, then there is a value to keep them separate, even if the fandisc basically acts as a patch.
However, if these append discs only add additional character routes, then the entries should get merged. The English description of Hoshi no Oujo: Hikari no Tsubasa ~Koi no Patissier~ is ambiguous, as it can be interpreted either way. The description of Yume o Mou Ichido: Koufuku no Kaze seems to imply it's a separate story. Could someone clarify?Last modified on 2020-06-30 at 14:27
|#3255 by wildberry|
2020-06-30 at 16:06
|@eacil: Sorry, I didn't know where else to post my question/suggestion. I don't mind merging things on my own, just didn't want to do something that is wrong and would cause trouble by having to get someone to reverse things later.|
From memory Yume o Mou Ichido: Koufuku no Kaze adds 5 new character routes and to facilitate a story with those 5 new characters, the main plot diverges once you make specific choices. In the new added overarching plot, you can't have endings with the original cast. So basically, it's kinda like having two games set in the same universe but with two different casts (except for the protagonist), there are even two different story summaries for each.
As for Hoshi no Oujo: Hikari no Tsubasa ~Koi no Patissier~, I haven't played it through yet but reading official website material, it seems like the same story but with two new characters, extra CGs and new scenes/endings for the original cast from the main game. Unlike Koufuku no Kaze though, Koi no Patissier doesn't have an alternate story summary because I believe it's pretty much just adding on fandisc content.
|#3256 by beliar|
2020-06-30 at 16:23
you can't have endings with the original castSo I assume you start the fandisc from a different executable, or alternatively choose to play the fandisc content from the main screen? The game doesn't just integrate the fandisc content into the main game, right?
In that case I'm leaning to agree with Savagetiger that we probably treat those as separate games. Reminds me of J.B. Harold no Jikenbo #2 - Manhattan Requiem - Yami ni Tobu Tenshi-tachi and J.B. Harold no Jikenbo - Kiss of Murder - Satsui no Kuchizuke. The latter is a patch that reuses all the same characters and graphical assets, but crafts a different story. As you can see, they are separate entries. What you described sounds pretty similar to me...
|#3257 by wildberry|
2020-06-30 at 19:22
|@beliar: I can't speak for the physical edition as I got the download edition (which bundles both as one executable) but... yes and no. The after stories/alternate stories with the original cast you just click on and read from the main menu. As for the new character content, to a point it's integrated with the main game but you have to make specific choices during the game to read their content.|
This is just my view... Now I know the rules, I would say Koufuku no Kaze should stay separate as the "meat" of it is the new characters and the side story it delivers. It's like another game when there is 5 new characters' worth of additional common route, individual routes, endings, CGs, etc.
As for Koi no Patissier, that seems like a good idea to just "merge" with the main game's page as far as I know, it's just adding more content (incidentally, the download edition has the two on one executable too) on to the main game and doesn't seem self-contained.
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