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#51 by echomateria
2012-10-18 at 01:58
< report >I did an overhaul on these today. Hope it helps.

Cross being related to the religion in a particular game or not isn't an issue for us. 'Religious Clothing and Accessories' just signifies the clothing and accessories category/or origin, nothing more.

We now have an item cross that characters can carry in their hands.

And a meta-trait Cross that houses cross-related clothing and accessories.
#52 by takata
2012-10-18 at 18:29
< report >I'm not sure we need the "bands" meta trait, but... -shrug- it's not doing any damage.

Cross being related to the religion in a particular game or not isn't an issue for us. 'Religious Clothing and Accessories' just signifies the clothing and accessories category/or origin, nothing more.
Thanks for the clarification that the clothing need not be religiously significant in-game. Something to that effect in the description would be nice though.

But, overall, I think the traits are better organised now, thanks. ^^

Wonder if we should have a "sticky" topic for trait maintenance. i.e. A "topic" on a new "board", in which starting topics is restricted, but replying to topics is not. Similar to the "Announcement" board. O.o?Last modified on 2012-10-18 at 18:29
#53 by silence
2012-10-21 at 07:33
< report >There is two issues on the edit character page, that are bothers me.
At first, it's a spoiler combo-box which is always resets to "no spoiler". Please, fix it already. I'm tired of recollecting every time, which spoiler level this character had in the previous revision.
Second thing is a misprint in the sentence:
"Image must be in JPEG or PNG format and at most 1MiB".
M-i-B, you see? So image must be at most 1 Man in Black xDDDDDDD
#54 by yorhel
2012-10-21 at 07:38
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At first, it's a spoiler combo-box which is always resets to "no spoiler". Please, fix it already. I'm tired of recollecting every time, which spoiler level this character had in the previous revision.
Huh? If I edit a character, the spoiler box always indicates the spoiler level that was set in the previous revision. Is that not working for you? (If so, what browser do you use?)

"Image must be in JPEG or PNG format and at most 1MiB".
Mebibyte.
#55 by silence
2012-10-21 at 08:03
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Is that not working for you? (If so, what browser do you use?)
It's never working for me. My browser is Opera (v12.02).

UPD: Lol, it's linked :-)

Mebibyte
OK, but why not Megabytes? I think that not so many people know about MiB.Last modified on 2012-10-21 at 08:05
#56 by yorhel
2012-10-21 at 08:11
< report >Works fine for me with the exact same version of Opera. Do you have any userscripts or extensions or similar that may break it?

OK, but why not Megabytes? I think that not so many people know about MiB.
Because "MB" is technically incorrect. And you understood the intention of the "at most 1 MiB" without knowing that the Mebibyte existed, so the message working just fine. :P
#57 by silence
2012-10-21 at 08:26
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Do you have any userscripts or extensions or similar that may break it?
No. Just skin, which remained since the 9 or 10 version. I've tried it on IE8, and the problem is still here...

And you understood the intention of the "at most 1 MiB" without knowing that the Mebibyte existed, so the message working just fine. :P
:DLast modified on 2012-10-21 at 08:33
#58 by silence
2012-10-27 at 03:38
< report >[Engages in > Singing] is a duplication of [Role > Singer], don't you think? Well, singing person is not necessarily a singer, but if he/she sings rarely enough not to be a singer, then this 'Singing' trait is not worth to be specified, right?
Besides, everyone will start to add both these traits to the character profile. I think it leads us to nowhere.Last modified on 2012-10-27 at 03:43
#59 by takata
2012-10-27 at 06:32
< report >@58:
Hm... I think we can compare this case to the Cooking and Cook traits. Maybe the Singing and Singer traits could have better descriptions of their scope.

You can get characters who engage in "singing" (say, karaoke), but singing isn't their career, or even a major hobby.

You could also get characters who are professional singers, but they aren't seen singing anywhere in the VN. (However, I think it's unlikely that a professional singer would not sing at all in the VN.)

I wonder what the "thresholds" should be for the Singer and Singing traits.
How much does someone have to sing to justify using i1037?
Do they have to be professional (like Michael Jackson) to use i346, or can they be amateur, but organised, like Mio and Yui from the K-ON!! anime?
#60 by echomateria
2012-10-27 at 17:34
< report >I first created those traits on Engages in, then moved them to Roles, so their descriptions may need some fixing.

Role traits are what characters professionally or semi-professionally (part-time?) do. On the other hand Engages in traits require at least one scene in the game for a character to be engaging in that act.

On a VN where a character is revealed to be a singer, the Role>Singer should be used. If that game has a scene where he/she sings (with or without voice acting) than that character should get Engages in > Singing.

One easy example for situations like this are for the support characters like parents. Their professions are often mentioned, but they rarely get a scene where they are seen performing their job, if ever.
#61 by silence
2012-10-28 at 02:49
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Role traits are what characters professionally or semi-professionally (part-time?) do.
How do you suggest to treat a singer from the school music band and/or music club? They all were singers so far.
#62 by echomateria
2012-10-28 at 23:37
< report >You wouldn't call a student at a regular school who is in a music club as a singer. You'd call that a member of the school's music club. and that's how it should be tagged/traited.
#63 by takata
2012-10-28 at 23:47
< report >How about c344 ?
I haven't read the VN, but it seems they're a bit more than just a school club, but a bit less than professional.
#64 by silence
2012-10-29 at 11:52
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You wouldn't call a student at a regular school who is in a music club as a singer. You'd call that a member of the school's music club.
I don't see the difference between these sentences =)
But if you are trying to say that all the music club singers shouldn't be treated as the singers, then we have to edit almost all the club singers profiles just because of several professional singers. That's crazy, you know?
#65 by echomateria
2012-10-30 at 19:16
< report >You got a point there. To get past this I exchanged the two traits. I guess this will fix this issue.
#66 by silence
2012-10-31 at 13:08
< report >Thank you. But I would like to ask you to supplement a description of the "Singer" trait. We should indicate that non-professional singers like music club members must be equiped with "Singing" trait instead. Just to make it completely clear.
#67 by echomateria
2012-10-31 at 14:49
< report >Done.
#68 by smelvertising
2012-11-04 at 22:37
< report >v1423 has a RightStuf link.
However, that's not the correct Graduation; the RightStuf link is for v6030
#69 by yorhel
2012-11-05 at 06:47
< report >Fixed, thanks.
#70 by warfoki
2012-11-13 at 08:26
< report >g1446 should go under Technical, and not Content.Last modified on 2012-11-13 at 08:27
#71 by barfboy
2012-11-13 at 20:10
< report >I think moths are cool but I think it should be 'mouths'.

g1563
#72 by yorhel
2012-11-13 at 20:18
< report >Both fixed.
#73 by atlantima
2012-11-13 at 22:32
< report >g1563 - wait, but this was proposed before as g977 and denied, since it's covered by "simple animations" in releases.Last modified on 2012-11-13 at 22:32
#74 by echomateria
2012-11-14 at 14:08
< report >You got a point, lets keep Lip synch and delete that one.
#75 by atlantima
2012-11-17 at 02:33
< report >g1565 - currently a child tag of Trap Heroine, but male pregnancy has nothing to do with traps. For example there could be some fantasy yaoi game where males get pregnant, without anyone crossdressing. I can see how that would still fit under genderbending, but trap, no.

It's also twice in "other elements":
Tags > Theme > Other Elements > Male Pregnancy
Tags > Theme > Other Elements > Pregnancy > Male Pregnancy