|#76 by silence|
2012-11-22 at 13:40
|< report >Somebody, explain me please why do we need the Talking Patterns, such as "Boku" and "Ore"? This is not the languages or dialects. I can't see any sense in them. If you believe these is such psychological types, then please answer to these three questions:|
1) Why didn't you found time to give a detailed description of these traits? Which character likes to say "Boku", and who prefers "Watashi"? No one doesn't know what is the hidden meaning of these words, and nobody in their right mind would add them to the character profile.
2) What prevents you from using other traits that will cover these "Boku", etc.?
3) Are you seriously think that someone needs this crap? Someone will look for a vn using this kind of traits? Perhaps only idiots and fanatics of Japanese.
Actually, I would like to express my bewilderment about the fact that some users are too much addicted to the creation of completely stupid traits just to add them to the thousands of characters, and thus they are trying to increase the size of their virtual penis. This also relates to the ribbons that we recently discussed. Ribbon doesn't affect either the nature of the character, nor his appearance or even a style. Most of these ribbons are just part of the school uniform or other clothing that a character is forced to wear against his will. I didn't say anything until the ribbon was one. But now there are hell of a lot of them! I always thought that we describe the characters so that everyone can find a suitable one. But in fact it turns out that we look into his pants to count the amount of pubic hair. Soon we will specify the number of buttons on the shirt and color of the belts on the sandals.
Guys, are you crazy? Wake up!
And there is something I want to say to those who approve such traits.
Do not succumb to hypnosis of lost souls! You should be able to send them to hell in a most rude manner.
|#77 by mazyrian|
2012-11-22 at 16:19
|< report >Maybe you won't search by personal pronouns, but as they're usually used in VNs they can make an image of the character personality, together with other traits. There's usually a difference between MCs who use Ore (more impulsive/rough) and those who use Boku (more calm). Bokukkos tend to fall into a pattern, also. And so on.|
Also, I'd totally search for heroines who use Warawa.
EDIT: And while we are talking about pronouns, some of the aliases are wrong. Atashi has Atai and Atakushi, which are different pronouns with different connotations: Atai is very childish, and Atakushi is a... variant of Watakushi I guess? I don't think I have actually found it. Also, Boku and Ore have Bokukko and Orekko as aliases, which are only applicable to women.Last modified on 2012-11-23 at 01:45
|#78 by silence|
2012-11-23 at 12:52
|< report >|
Maybe you won't search by personal pronouns, but as they're usually used in VNs they can make an image of the character personality, together with other traits. There's usually a difference between MCs who use Ore (more impulsive/rough) and those who use Boku (more calm). Bokukkos tend to fall into a pattern, also. And so on.Okay. So be it. Then see a question №1.
|#79 by mazyrian|
2012-11-23 at 14:55
|< report >Well, I don't know; that should be answered by the one who made the traits (I only made warawa, and I think it's appropriately described). A better description (or a description at all) would be probably better, yes.|
Boku: male, informal, casual, not rude, somewhat childish. When used by females it has tomboyish connotations (and they're called bokukko)
Ore: male, informal, vulgar and rude when not in a very familiar context; more though than boku.
Watakushi: Very formal/poilte; has high standing connotations. Usually used by the ojou-sama character.
Ware: Archaic and somewhat haughty.
Atashi: Informal and very feminine [I've usually seen this in more rude/sports oriented heroines]
Atai: Female, very childish
And a lot more not currently as traits. (If something is wrong somebody will correct it)
|#80 by silence|
2012-11-23 at 16:03
|< report >Thank you. I hope someone will use this to correct the descriptions.|
|#81 by takata|
2012-11-24 at 05:35
|< report >I also think we have some -very- unnecessary traits. These would include some of the ribbons previously mentioned. I wish echomateria would be more selective about which traits to approve.|
I can understand that someone might want to search for characters that wear ribbons in their hair, or wear a "hadaka ribbon"...
However, specifying whether the ribbon is used to tie the hair or just sits there is going way too far! @.@
Ribbon ties and clothing with ribbons are so common and insignificant that there's no point in adding them to hundreds of characters. Body ribbons are similarly insignificant... unless the character has LOTS of them.
I also see little point in specifying that a character's hair is tied with a rubber band or a rubber band with beads.
I can think of two main purposes of traits:
1. Allow people to search for characters with particular traits because they like that type of character.
2. Provide a quick overview of the character in a more concise and structured format than a paragraph description.
Maybe we should have guidelines about what sorts of traits to avoid adding. O.o
edit: fixed linkLast modified on 2012-11-26 at 21:40
|#82 by surferdude|
2012-11-24 at 06:12
|< report >I guess some people simply can't fap to a character unless the rubber band that she uses to tie her hair has beads. :P|
|#83 by barfboy|
2012-11-26 at 19:19
|< report >I should read the links I provide more carefully.|
Anyhow, for 'spats' this description is much better than the one I provided on the fly and it's on wikipedia.
"Short-legged elastic tights commonly worn as street wear, under school uniform skirts or for gymnastics and ballet practice, are sometimes also referred to as bike shorts, but they are typically simpler and lighter garments than those worn by cyclists and generally lack the chamois or faux-chamois lining. These shorts are also used for football, rugby and various other sports, underneath 'normal' shorts for warmth."
Can the entire 'spats' entry either, be denied so it can be rewritten properly, be edited with my text replaced with this one and an added sentence which says "these type of shorts are known as 'spats' in Japan", or be changes so that the above tag is referenced?
I think that would provide a much more concise entry with much better information than what I originally provided.
This also means the alt listing should be "bike shorts"Last modified on 2012-11-26 at 19:21
|#84 by barfboy|
2012-11-26 at 22:40
|< report >I was going to wait until someone else posted to avoid double posting but oh well. Editing the above would be confusing.|
Anyway. About the overabundance of tags. I have a few thoughts on it.
1. I LOVE doing stuff like this
Oh hey found something. Anyway. So a lot of tags can be nice because it allows us to specialize searches for fetishes and whatnot.
It also helps, as I pointed out in another discussion, figuring out the personality of a character based on what we see as traits.
Such as Boss
She's a yakuza crime boss who's forced to wear an apron, and engage in cooking and cleaning which makes tags like engages in cooking and cleaning helpful in understanding the character before deciding whether or not to play the game.
Too many traits is just silly though. I mean, really? Some of them I think people are adding just to add traits. Hey I added to the database! Nifty!
I contribute to that some I know. Like the cross meta-trait but then it REALLY irked me when I wanted to describe characters who wear crosses that aren't necklaces and it just, it just BOTHERED me. Maybe cutting some back though would be nice even if that means I can't be as specific with traits as I would like.
I personally see no point to this trait
Or this one perhaps?
I just ... worthless.
Do we leave them? I guess so. I mean maybe it makes people feel better they exist so they can be 'nifty, lets add drinks water to the list! i know a lot of characters who do that too!' I guess people get the jollies off it by making traits.
So long as it doesn't interfere with the workings of the database I'm cool with it I guess.Last modified on 2012-11-26 at 22:44
|#85 by horseband|
2012-11-27 at 03:09
|< report >The tray one is...seemingly useless but the character's it links to actually hold trays in their sprite, so I guess it's relevant?|
The binocular one though... Seems useless considering there's only one character.
|#86 by barfboy|
2013-01-02 at 11:36
|< report >I screwed up again|
|#87 by barfboy|
2013-01-12 at 07:28
|< report >There should only be 1 L in title|
|#88 by drjones|
2013-02-13 at 22:13
|< report >In the spanish version of the site, the "description" field who is displayed as "Describpción" should be "Descripción" (minus the b)|
|#89 by atlantima|
2013-02-14 at 14:54
|< report >|
g1565 - currently a child tag of Trap Heroine, but male pregnancy has nothing to do with traps. For example there could be some fantasy yaoi game where males get pregnant, without anyone crossdressing. I can see how that would still fit under genderbending, but trap, no.This still hasn't been addressed.
It's also twice in "other elements":
Tags > Theme > Other Elements > Male Pregnancy
Tags > Theme > Other Elements > Pregnancy > Male Pregnancy
|#90 by kelpie|
2013-02-18 at 21:44
|< report >d14#3 lists a 'vns' member, which should be 'chars'.|
|#91 by atlantima|
2013-02-28 at 23:23
|< report >i338 says king instead of "queen regnant"|
|#92 by atlantima|
2013-03-20 at 02:43
|< report >i1100 is currently child of both "bikini" and "one piece", but since the description says it can be either one, it should be only under i551.|
|#93 by barfboy|
2013-03-21 at 19:39
|< report >I had a thought. Isn't the database of traits also useful to look up characters you've seen somewhere before? Kind of like the Anime Character Database except exclusive to visual novels.|
You could use it to find characters like this
I intentionally chose one that I added myself and also one that I know Google can't find. Which makes traits like ribbon tie and hair ribbon useful. Anyway, have fun.
|#94 by barfboy|
2013-03-23 at 22:29
|< report >I'm sorry for screwing up all the time.|
I shouldn't have said, 'no actual blood relation' because it implies the character can be an adopted sister. It should just be 'no actual relation'.
I made this trait to apply to characters like Primula c4676 and Usako c11688 who start calling the protagonist 'Onii-chan' and acting like his sister even though they aren't related by blood or marriage.
|#95 by silence|
2013-03-27 at 13:43
|< report >An 'Outdoor Sex' trait is linked to the wrong place. No, I mean, the 'Sex in Public' link from description is wrong.Last modified on 2013-03-27 at 13:45|
|#96 by saru|
2013-04-24 at 15:33
|< report >Most of Deep-Blue series games has wrong developer:|
With a single exception of:
Obviously CyberFront is a publisher for PSP-version, while developer is Kogado Studio's Kumasan Team. By example:
20.07.2002: PC release, Kogado Studio (link)
2012-08-09: PSP release, Cyberfront
...OH, WAIT, i can fix it myself, in "Releases" graph.Last modified on 2013-04-24 at 16:02
|#97 by onemore|
2013-04-25 at 15:33
|< report >g1651 title - "changeble" should be "changeable".|
|#98 by silence|
2013-06-29 at 03:42
|< report >Not actually an error but rather a suggestion. Why don't we rename "Makes an appearance" kind of characters to "Episodic character"? Just to make it more consistent with "Main character" and "Side character".Last modified on 2013-06-29 at 03:43|
|#99 by transcendence|
2013-06-30 at 12:35
|< report >g777's description has a really minor error; the pronouns erroneously shifted from his to her.|
"*His* actions are calculated, usually thinking outside the box, and employing unorthodox tactics and strategies to achieve *her* goals."Last modified on 2013-06-30 at 12:36
|#100 by xcyt|
2013-07-05 at 06:24
|< report >Typo on the 'My account' page linked to on the front page (the link being 'My Profile') when logged in.|