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#1026 by december
2017-02-22 at 05:27
< report >Would a trait for hair color that changes make sense? Multicolored appears to be for 2 colors existing simultaneously. To use Koyama Akane for example link looks like brown in the promotional art but (NSFW) link looks black in the in-game sex scene art.

I would like to distinguish between characters like this (difference by medium) and those who, within the same fixed medium, have a hair-change via a transformation or wearing a wig.

I know in some cases a transformed appearance will have a different instance, but not always.
#1027 by savagetiger
2017-02-22 at 06:22
< report >^That example is just a lighting thing, it's nighttime in that cg so her hair looks darker.
#1028 by december
2017-02-25 at 01:20
< report >You sure? W changed it Koyama Akane so I figured it might be black in some better-lit scenes too. Having trouble finding a CG collection for Ane@Mas -The Ane Master- to compare.

Does anyone know where 101624.jpg is hosted on this site? I don't see any screenshots listed for the game. Are mods able to upload photos for other purposes besides display like to illustrate trait corrections? In this case I believe it was initially done so to correct my misconception she was flatchested when she was actually breast-binding.

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regarding Arms Held Back in Yatsu Murasaki (and also for Ayasaki Tsubaki) a suggestion was made by u28609 to "Try instead to push the mod to free the queue" I'm not sure where the queue is (perhaps only mods can see it?) but am wondering if anyone knows how much is there.

Gave link as an example for Kurushima Minato first.

link has 79 examples of this but subsequently I also came across link which has 1233 examples.

That could possibly be a better candidate, but I think it would be good to have "arms" be a subtrait of "arm" for cases when both arms are held back during a sex act, as it is a distinctive posture.
#1029 by savagetiger
2017-02-25 at 02:28
< report >^
The trait queue on link , down in the right corner

tbh I don't think the arms thing is significant enough to be another trait. All of those are just a variation of Doggy Style or Quickie Fix.
#1030 by december
2017-02-25 at 06:14
< report >Those aren't every possible instance of arms being held back during sex. For example link is during Sitting, link is during Spitroast, link is during Reverse Cowgirl, link is during Standing, link is during Kneeling, link is during... HELPNEEDED. It's a bondage behavior that can happen during a lot of different positions.

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I thought about proposing "Sash" as a subtrait for Belt based on Jozefinu but then I noticed Body Ribbon mentioned "waist ribbon" so should sash just be added as an alias for body ribbon? Anyone who played the Diablo games is familiar with the word sash.
#1031 by skorpiondeath
2017-02-25 at 11:15
< report >I don't think arms held back will be approved it is similar to legs lock so before add unapproved trait to characters you should wait as we all do....

but am wondering if anyone knows how much is there.
This is pointless since you still need to wait, they may as well know about it and keep traits there or they don't have time to check them.

First lets say warfoki told many times that he would have not approved any more sexual position trait.
That said as a general rule is not useful to show every single picture where a character has arms held back as a proof of his usefulness because every one here understand what "arms held back" is. Since savagetiger told you that is not significant enough you should have tried instead to explain why you think it is useful.

Second, keep in mind that in the way you are reasoning you can propose: standing blowjob, crouched blowjob, leaning blowjob, blowjob with finger in the nose, ecc... A blowjob is a blowjob in this site.
Last thing you are linking images from "geelbooru". That site has the ungrateful job to tag singular images so they are willingly descend into the minimal picture detail.Last modified on 2017-02-25 at 13:56
#1032 by takata
2017-02-28 at 13:33
< report >Sorry for the delays. Been kinda swamped with work for a while. >.<

Aside, I didn't realize you could add unapproved (and even deleted) traits to characters. o.oLast modified on 2017-02-28 at 13:44
#1033 by skorpiondeath
2017-02-28 at 14:17
< report >Yes you can because it resolves the name if you input the code (ixxx) of the trait you want to add even if not selectable from the combo.

It would be a good thing to clean up tag queue also
#1034 by traumatizer
2017-03-01 at 16:21
< report >The link in Naked Apron doesn't really lead anywhere except to some "Japan 101" site's home page.
#1035 by wakaranai
2017-03-13 at 09:18
< report >Strap-on Dildo should be marked as sexual content.
#1036 by traumatizer
2017-03-16 at 20:24
< report >Seems like my other two drowned in the last page so:

Asexual is the only sexuality trait out of bisexual & homosexual that is marked as sexual, while the other two are not.
Just like misandrist, misogynist is more of a personality trait than a role.Last modified on 2017-03-16 at 22:02
#1037 by savagetiger
2017-03-17 at 18:08
< report >The Nipple Rings alias of Body Piercing should be moved to Nipple Piercing.
And maybe Earrings should have a 'pierced ears' or 'ear piercing' alias.
#1038 by thewayfarer
2017-03-22 at 19:43
< report >Shouldn't Shield be classified as an item? How is it a "clothing"? Can you actually 'wear' a shield on yourself?
#1039 by skorpiondeath
2017-03-22 at 20:05
< report >I'm not the one proposing Braided Headband but the motivation of denial is the fact that it needed some example pictures.
Easy enough here cases of characters with braid used as headband! link, link, linkLast modified on 2017-03-22 at 20:12
#1040 by savagetiger
2017-03-22 at 20:31
< report >The Nose Rings alias of Body Piercing should be moved to Facial Piercing now that it got approved.
#1041 by skorpiondeath
2017-03-26 at 13:54
< report >Since Strap-on Dildo was correctly moved under sexual content....what do you guys think about moving under sexual content Nose Hook and Gag too? While Nose Hook is almost assured to be related to sexual content, Gag is not... so I am not that sure.
#1042 by sakurakoi
2017-03-26 at 14:16
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Shouldn't Shield be classified as an item? How is it a "clothing"? Can you actually 'wear' a shield on yourself?
Yes and yes. However, apart from only "wearing" a shield when not wielding it, wearing it like this: link is much more rare and a choice in favor of style instead of utility/protection (since to protect your shoulder and arm, armor with the same degree of protection would be a better and less limiting choice). It should indeed be an item, especially since it is often used like any other item-weapons (not just to protect but also interact, i.e parrying and shield bashing).

While Nose Hook is almost assured to be related to sexual content, Gag is not... so I am not that sure.
A gag is often used along with a blindfold, i.e during kidnappings and hostage situations so nope. A nose hook I have never seen used for anything besides sexual humiliation so indeed.
#1043 by skorpiondeath
2017-03-26 at 16:04
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A gag is often used along with a blindfold, i.e during kidnappings and hostage situations so nope.
I think it could be a good idea to differentiate normal gags (kidnapping, etc...) from the one used for sexual purposes: (like 80% or more of the cases on VNDB) "ball gags", "bit gags", "spider gags", etc... all enclosed in "Gag (BDSM)" sexual trait. The same approch it has been used on "i130" "i2329".

Oh and second thing I would like to know if someone is against the approval of Cat Costume, Dog Costume, Pig Costume, Cow Costume. Maybe it was a better idea to propose them under Cosplay as "Cow/Pig/Dog/Cat Cosplay"? Or maybe not propose them at all?
#1044 by savagetiger
2017-03-26 at 21:51
< report >^Maybe just one 'Animal Costume' trait? But then you have to figure how it's different from just kemonomimi headband plus clothing tail.
#1045 by sakurakoi
2017-03-26 at 22:11
< report >Well, given how common all 4 cosplays are (with dog and cat being definitely the most common, pig and cow less but still quite). I'd think that those deserve distinction, especially given that not all dog lovers like cats, the other way round and I by the by just dislike cows. The sole problem still is though, as always: Where will it end? It's not like one can really survey it upfront and in the first place have an arbitrary limit ("At least 1000 VN characters need to wear X Cosplay to be worth the dilation!")...

Regarding gags and blindfolds... I'd actually argue that they should not be under clothing at all, with a note telling that for kidnapping and confinement the respective trait should simply be used.
#1046 by skorpiondeath
2017-03-26 at 23:16
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But then you have to figure how it's different from just kemonomimi headband plus clothing tail.
The aim was to differentiate different kind of nukige cosplay since they consistently keep adding different kind of animal cosplay and by that I don't mean sexual petplay which ofc can be done without wearing tails, kemonomimi headband and such. That's why those traits should probably be moved under cosplay which is an action, like "Engages in > Disguise > Cosplay > Cow Cosplay". That way they don't overlap with other animal piece of clothing like kemonomimi headband, clothing tail, etc... And maybe add a single 'Animal Costume' trait for real costumes beaside common animal gear (headband, tail). That also remind me of Bunny Dress which ofc cannot be considered a normal animal cosplay since it has deep roots in Japanese culture.

Regarding gags and blindfolds... I'd actually argue that they should not be under clothing at all, with a note telling that for kidnapping and confinement the respective trait should simply be used.
I agree with this...but this also means that "Gag" can be marked as a sexual trait.Last modified on 2017-03-26 at 23:17
#1047 by infernoplex
2017-03-29 at 22:20
< report >I have been reading some discussions about Girlfriend trait on this thread (1,2,3). and I was thinking perhaps that it would be a good idea to deal with that trait in the similiar way like it was dealt with the tags (Girlfriend Heroine and Protagonist in a Relationship).

Namely, what I am thinking is the girlfriend trait should be left and the description updated to reflect the protagonist who gets in a relationship in a middle of the story (gets locked on a specific heroine's route). Then for the girlfriend trait should be created a sub-trait, called something like "Girlfriend from the start" or something similiar with better wording to reflect heroines who are girlfriends from the start of VNs.

The same thing should be applied to boyfriend trait aswell. The new traits would improve searchibility for those people who are specifically looking for heroines/heroes who are already in the relationship in the beginning of a VN. That way the trait would be more useful because it would make a difference between 90% of VNs where heroines have girlfriend routes and other 10% where heroines happen to be girlfriends straight from the beginning.

Just sharing my thoughts on the matter.
#1048 by skorpiondeath
2017-03-30 at 00:59
< report >@warfoki: since you got spare time (yeah!! study sucks! :D) I stumbled upon the deleted trait Clitoris Growth which has is equivalent tag Clitoris Growth approved instead... The reason upon denial was:
denied: This trait seems to be trying to lump two related, but different, things together: the growth process, and the large clitoris.

I think that the denial was correct but I would like to bring that back and ask you if you can split that trait in 2, one about the growth process "Subject of -> Clitoris Growth" (alias Clitoris Enlargement) and one about the body feature "Body -> Feature -> Large Clitoris" (alias Clitoromegaly) in this way the behaviour could be aligned to the one we are actually using for penis: Large Penis which is about dimensions and a body feature and Penis Growth which is about the growth process.
After that it could be a good idea to clean and align tag description and aliases of "Clitoris Growth" tag to the relative trait.Last modified on 2017-03-30 at 01:02
#1049 by anonymous
2017-03-30 at 02:18
< report >Submitted Intersex, but not sure if it should be more specific or detailed. I was mostly looking for a trait for a specific character who has male and female genitalia, but presents as male, so the futanari trait wouldn't be accurate.
#1050 by lunaterra
2017-03-31 at 07:48
< report >Why is Mini Hat a child trait of Lolita Hairband? They're totally different pieces of clothing. Mini hats aren't even exclusive to lolita fashion.

Compare the mini hat examples with the lolita headband examples here.