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#2601 by historyeraser
2021-07-29 at 13:42
< report >I'm bored and got nothing else to do..

Potentially annoying other people makes things more lucrative too.Last modified on 2021-07-29 at 13:43
#2602 by ninius
2021-07-29 at 13:43
< report >Go flag images or something 😂
#2603 by naiohoras
2021-07-29 at 14:15
< report >#2601
don't worry, it does not annoy me
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it makes me want to cry instead
#2604 by ninius
2021-07-29 at 18:59
< report >What are these Japanese peasant clothes called: Makishima Kanzou, Ookami Jijii, Yamawaki Tae?
#2605 by historyeraser
2021-07-29 at 19:06
< report >Uh, the clothing traits for the first and third profiles make it pretty fuckin' clear they're wearing kimonos and kimono jackets.
#2606 by ninius
2021-07-29 at 19:11
< report >Yeah because vndb traits are the absolute truth and people don't make mistakes? I'm asking are those really kimono jackets or is there a real category of clothes that those actually belong to? Like are they samue or happi or what? Kanzou's shirt looks more like a samue than kimono jacket.Last modified on 2021-07-29 at 19:30
#2607 by naiohoras
2021-07-30 at 00:39
< report >Makishima Kanzou and Ookami Jijii wear a variant of Yukata.

there is a site for all kind of historical Japanese clothing (it's in Japanese) link. you can choose clothing category by era from the left side panel, and the dropdown menu to choose the clothing sets.
this site which I found earlier seems useful as well link

that reminds me, Japanese clothing traits in the db are somewhat messy. sometimes, the trait is too specific that it's inapplicable to a close-kind of clothing, sometimes it's the reverse. some are scattered and the trait structure need to be reworked either.
trying to come up with a solution is gonna be a pain, but I guess I will try to do it....................someday.
#2608 by skorpiondeath
2021-07-30 at 19:19
< report >Yamawaki Tae wears an Ame Michiyuki (雨道行) over the kimono we got Kimono Rain Coat for that.
#2609 by foiegras
2021-08-01 at 20:22
< report >There is a typo in the description of Timid, challange should be challenge.
#2610 by z3k3n
2021-08-03 at 10:53
< report >Food lover should have gluttonous as an alias.
#2611 by altarius
2021-08-03 at 19:42
< report >For the sake of spoiler-avoiding, Not Sexually Involved should be moved under "Show sexual traits" flag.
Situation 1 (current). Character has this trait and there is no "Show sexual traits". By this, reader spoils himself about char no having sex.
Situation 2 (current). There is "Show sexual traits". Similarly, reader spoils himself about the opposite.
Situation 3 (desirable). There is "Show sexual traits" and the trait is moved under it. Now, no one ever knows whether this char has sex or not, until the flag is clicked.
This is important for side chars, where both current situations carry the risk of a major spoiler.
#2612 by historyeraser
2021-08-03 at 19:43
< report >if it's a spoiler then just edit the page to display it as one, you don't need to go that far.Last modified on 2021-08-03 at 19:44
#2613 by altarius
2021-08-03 at 19:52
< report >#2612
Situation 4 (current). The trait is marked as a spoiler, but "Show sexual traits" flag is nowhere to be seen. The meaning of such an action is about zero (but I still do it, because it is better than nothing).
#2614 by fllthdcrb
2021-08-04 at 02:47
< report >Are we ever supposed to mark sexual traits as spoilers? Just wondering, because as far as I remember, wherever I've looked (though probably not as widely as a lot of people on VNDB), none of them are marked, and when they were, they got unmarked.
#2615 by historyeraser
2021-08-04 at 02:51
< report >#2614 if you go on the pages for the sexual traits and press the "Spoil Me" button, then you'll get more results. Even for "Not Sexually Involved", so yes you are.Last modified on 2021-08-04 at 02:52
#2616 by naiohoras
2021-08-04 at 03:11
< report >#2614 sexual positions usually are not a spoiler, unless it's a plot device that could... spoil the reader, though it's very rare.
#2617 by altarius
2021-08-04 at 05:43
< report >#2616
In fact, not so rare. If we are talking not about some rape nukige, something like dark sexual content is pretty much of a spoiler.
But I'm trying to get across not that cases. The presense of sex is a spoiler by itself. For example, we look at some good Old chap from whom we usually buy meals. And there is a "Show sexual traits" flag! What is it? He is a friend of the protag family, but still has this flag! Considering this particular novel, it is a spoiler, maybe not a major one, but still.
#2618 by historyeraser
2021-08-04 at 06:13
< report >#2617 I spoilered the sexual traits for Old chap.
#2619 by altarius
2021-08-04 at 06:15
< report >#2618
Well, yes. Now it works.
#2620 by naiohoras
2021-08-04 at 06:50
< report >then pretty much "show sexual traits" button and the other buttons as well (minor spoiler and spoil me) can be a potential spoiler as they will disappear if no trait at the corresponding spoiler level is applied. for example, Tsuruoka Atsumi who is a murderer and Sakata Yuza who is not. the player can be spoiled as they are both suspects in a case.
and we blame Yorhel for that :(
#2621 by altarius
2021-08-04 at 07:07
< report >#2620
You are exaggerating this. The mere presence of sexual traits for some side chars is a spoiler, but, thanks to #2618 who opened my eyes, I can deal with this now.
As for your statement, ignoring sarcasm, these buttons are indeed some sort of ultra-light spoilers. To prevent this, the buttons might be shown on the regular basis, regardless of actual existence of appropriately marked traits.
#2622 by naiohoras
2021-08-04 at 08:08
< report >what sarcasm?
#2623 by fllthdcrb
2021-08-04 at 11:23
< report >#2615 Yeah, I figured I just haven't been looking in the right places.
#2624 by tasukaru
2021-08-06 at 13:54
< report >Sorry if this is the wrong place to post.

I would like to propose new traits, like sex partner traits?
let's say I want to play nukige like Marina NTR report 1, where a married heroine having sex with a younger guy. With traits like "Sex with younger partner" we can look for similar things.

I think it's useful for people looking for a specific thing, especially in cheating/NTR scenarios, like:

Sex with Ex
Sex with Son's friend
Sex with Friend's mother
Sex with Husband's boss
etc.
#2625 by ezezin
2021-08-06 at 15:30
< report >According to this deleted trait:
The traits' function is to describe the acts the character performs, but the traits are not interested in who the acts are performed with
So I would think those traits won't be acepted. Also, we already have Sex with Others for those cases and Netorase/Netori (their SO is stolen) for NTR if applicable.Last modified on 2021-08-06 at 15:38