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#451 by warfoki
2015-01-08 at 21:37
< report >Sexual is going to see a MAJOR overhaul in a few days, so I don't think that there's any point discussing that issue separately right now. Still, I can give my opinion on what could be done with these issues theoretically in the current system, even though I'm not going to bother with it right now.

Still, my two cents on that one: the fingering issue is easy to solve by two child traits. Can't really separate them though, that'd require going through them and decide on a case-by-case basis... for 898 characters. Not gonna happen.

The multiple penetration trait is more complicated than that I'm afraid. Multiple penetration can happen through the same orifice (double vaginal, etc) and.. uhm.. non-standard orifices as well: urethra, nose and let's not even start on the possible combinations with Grotesque Body Modification (I thought there was a trait counterpart for that... weird) where it's hard, if not impossible determine what penetrates which orifice in what way. That'd be a crapton of child traits.
#452 by takata
2015-01-08 at 21:55
< report >How did you plan on overhauling Sexual? Were you going to break it into two meta-traits?Last modified on 2015-01-08 at 21:56
#453 by warfoki
2015-01-08 at 22:25
< report >I'm still considering my options there. For now I'm going through the rest of the traits (almost done, only the Subject of is left at this point) and brush those up. Adding Wikipedia links, fixing broken image links, formatting, fixing typos, that sort of business. Once I'm done, I'll post a changelog here. I'm not putting these up for debate, because... well, it'd be pointless.

In the meanwhile I'm also mapping out the more serious issues in the other sections that I can't fix without some issues. I'll have a longer Skype chat with our favourite tsun-tsun mod about those and the possibilities for the Sexual trait-overhaul to see if we can come up with something better together then myself alone. After that I'll open two threads (probably this weekend), one for the miscellaneous changes and one separately for the sexual section to put them up for discussion. I'm open to alternative ideas to mine, as long as they are feasible and won't break anything. The sexual overhaul should be decided by the last week of January though, because a new semester starts in February and then I won't really have time for actually implementing it. I expect several days worth of work with that frankly either way.

So, again, to clarify: I'm NOT implementing anything major overnight. There'll be time to discuss it.
#454 by silence
2015-01-09 at 02:49
< report >
the fingering issue is easy to solve by two child traits. Can't really separate them though, that'd require going through them and decide on a case-by-case basis
Actually, I agree with this. So, you will accept Anal Fingering and Vaginal Fingering traits? Should we include vulva manipulations into Vaginal Fingering? There is also a Penis Fingering, I assume.

Multiple penetration can happen through the same orifice (double vaginal, etc) and.. uhm.. non-standard orifices as well
Same as with Fingering. Just leave Multiple Penetration as it is, while adding the specific child traits. If a one will want to add something like "Urethra+Nose Penetration", then he can just use Multiple Penetration or add a new specific trait for that.

PS: Are going to arrange sexual Tags the same way?
#455 by warfoki
2015-01-09 at 17:31
< report >We'll see after the overhaul about these. I'd like to apply more or less the same structure to the tags (aside of noting the active / passive participants, since those are only relevant for the traits), so if I end up making child traits, then I'll probably make their tag counterparts as well, yes.
#456 by silence
2015-01-10 at 12:35
< report >Thanks for your efforts ^_^Last modified on 2015-01-10 at 12:35
#457 by warfoki
2015-01-11 at 14:05
< report >So, the changelog. A few things to note:

Image internalization means that I removed all the external links pointing to example images. Then I uploaded said images to VNDB using the screenshot uploader and linked them there. Quite a number of images were broken already, this way we can avoid getting more broken.

Name and alias synchronization means that I brushed together the names and aliases for the sexual tags and traits. So searching for a term should throw the same tags and traits at you as a result.

Ah, and I have no idea why aren't all those ids got auto-converted into proper links. Some of them are, some of them aren't, I don't know why. If any coding-savvy person would look into this, I'd appreciate it. I copy pasted the log from a txt file if that matters somehow.


Spiky Bangs
Description: Image internalisation.

Short Hime Cut
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Hair Beads
Description: Image internalisation.

Cat Ears Hairstyle
Deleted. Kemonomimi covers this entirely. And out of the 4 characters tagged with this trait, at least two were
mistagged anyway.

Slicked Back
Description: Minor capitalization fix, image internalisation.

Eye Color
Alias: Eye Colour

Salmon
Deleted. Nobody has used it for over 22 months.

Round
Description: Image internalisation.

Sanpaku Eyes
Description: Image internalisation.

Shadowed
Description: Removed text ("Usually seen on otaku and yandere characters.").

Slit Pupils
Description: Minor formatting, added example, minor typo fix.

Symbol
Description: Image internalisation.

Polydactyly
Description: Minor typo fix.

Average Height and Short
Description: Average Height said 1.40 meters is the low end of average heigth. Short said that short characters are under
1.45 meters. That leaves us with a 5 cm gap that could go either way. Since I don't think that this'll really
affect any traits or just a very, very few, I decided to fix this by changing Average Height to 1.45 meters.

Flight Attendant Uniform
Description: Image internalisation.

Turtleneck Swimsuit
Alias: Added the aliases based on the description.

Furisode
Alias: Added the aliases based on the description.

Tomesode
Alias: Added the aliases based on the description.
Description: Added Wikipedia link.

Yukata
Alias: Added alias.

Sokutai
Alias: Added alias.

Turtleneck Leotard
Alias: Added the aliases based on the description.

Torn Pantyhose
Description: Removed text ("Cuts/rips can be made on purpose just for fashion (goth like) or the result of wild
sex/rape.") and image internalisation.

Habit
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Mini Hat
Description: Image internalisation.

Horns
Description: Minor formatting.

Torn Clothing
Parent traits: Moved from Over Body Clothing under Accessories and Others.

Dog Tags
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Ankle Bracelet
Description: Minor formatting.

Pendant Earring
Description: Removed text (the part referring to Pendant Necklace instead of the actual trait) and added an example.

Kanzashi
Description: Image internalisation.

Hair Flower
Description: Minor formatting.

Transparent
Description: Minor formatting.

Unusual Hair Ornaments
Description: Minor formatting.

Christmas Cap
Description: Image internalisation.

Kanzashi
Parent trait: Removed Headwear. Its other two parent traits are already under Headwear, so this was redundant.

Bridal Gauntlet
Description: Image internalisation and minor capitalzation fix.

Fingerless Evening Gloves
Description: Image internalisation.
Parent traits: Moved from Gloves under Evening Gloves and Fingerless Gloves.

Tank Top
Alias: Added alias based on description.

Turtleneck Shirt
Alias: Added alias based on description.

Turtleneck Sweater
Alias: Edited alias based on description.

Ankle Boots
Description: Image internalisation.

Flip-flops
Description: Added Wikipedia link.

High Heel Sandals
Parent traits: Added High Heels as a parent trait.

Pantyhose
Description: removed example. The link was dead and there are enough example images in the linked Wikipedia
article anyway.

Thigh-high Stockings
Description: removed example. The link was dead and there are enough example images in the linked Wikipedia
article anyway. Minor formatting.

Pareo
Alias: Added the aliases based on the description.

Spaulders
Description: Minor formatting.

Grenade
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Rocket Launcher
Description: Minor formatting.

Guan Dao
Primary Name: Capitalization fix.
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Lance
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Maul
Description: Fixed Wikipedia link.
Parent traits: Moved from Polearm to Blunt Instruments. Mauls are hardly bladed weapons. Or polearms, for that matter.

Greatsword
Description: Minor formatting.

Longsword
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Pickaxe
Parent traits: Moved from Bladed Instrument under Items. Pickaxes are not actual axes, nor are they bladed and as per their
primary function, they are not even weapons.

Scissors
Parent traits: Removed Blade. Scissors are not weapons.

Saw
Parent traits: Moved from Bladed Instrument under Items. Again, saws are not weapons. One could argue for the case of
chainsaws, since in some settings, those are weaponised (see Warhammer 40k), but irl even those are merely tools.

Chainsaw
Parent traits: Added Bladed Instrument as per the argument above.

Wire Weapon
Description: Image internalisation.

Wind Instruments
Description: Minor formatting.

Drum
Description: Removed the "for moderators" section, which I should've removed when I approved the trait. -.-"

Bass Guitar
Parent traits: Moved from Musical Instrument under Guitar.

Guitar
Parent traits: Moved from Musical Instrument under String Instrument.

We
Deleted. 3 years old trait and no one ever used it.

Food Lover
Description: Minor typo fix.

Haraguro
Alias: Added alias based on description.
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Mysterious
Alias: Edited aliases to make it more searchable.

Pacifist
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Insect
Description: Fixed Wikipedia link. Capitalization fixes.

Pony
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Rabbit
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Grimoire
Parent traits: Moved from Nature under Construct.

Homunculus
Parent traits: Moved from Nature under Construct.

Living Doll
Parent traits: Moved from Nature under Construct.

Artificial Intelligence
Parent traits: Moved from Nature under Construct.

Idealist
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Father Complex
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Nature
Description: Minor typo fix.

Fox
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Goat
Description: Minor typo fix.

Keyboardist
Alias: Removed "pianist". There is a separate child trait for that.

Manga Artist
Alias: Added alias based on description.
Description: Minor formatting.

Mentor
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Secretary
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Student Council President
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Student Council Vice President
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Health Committee Member
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Elementary School Student
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Middle School Student
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

University Student
Description: Minor formatting.

Exorcist
Parent traits: Moved from Monk, Priest and Priestess under Religious Roles. An exorcist CAN be a monk, priest or priestess, but
he/she doesn't have to be.

Blue-collar Worker
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

White-collar Worker
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Construction Worker
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Pink-collar Worker
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Host(ess)
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Housewife
Parent traits: Added Wife.

Domestic Partner
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Half-Japanese
Alias: Added alias based on description.

Role
Description: Capitalzation fixes.

Exhibitionist
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Illegitimate Child
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Tsukkomi
Alias: Added alias based on description.

Unpopular
Description: Minor formatting.

Netball
Description: Minor capitalization fix, added Wikipedia link.

Wrestling
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Domestic Violence
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Masochism
Parent traits: Moved from Mental Affliction under Engages in.
Description: Removed the third paragraph, which described masochism as a mental disorder.

Sadism
Parent traits: Moved from Mental Affliction under Engages in.
Description: Removed the third paragraph, which described sadism as a mental disorder.

Sexual Fetishism
Parent traits: Moved from Mental Affliction under Engages in.

Mental Affliction
Deleted. The trait in and of itslef is just pointless. One can be the subject of a mental disorder at best. And
the fact that Sadism, Masochism and Sexual Fetishism were the only child traits just made this meta trait even more pointless,
insulting and dishonest. The only trace of handling sadism or masochism as a mental disorder in modern times was
the appendix of a psychological handbook from 1987. Aside of crazy fundies, no one considers them mental
disorders anymore. I remember that there was a bit of an outrage about this when these were first introduced to
the database in this form, but Echomateria simply refused to change it. I, on the other hand, refused to leave it
like this. As for Sexual Fetishism, I have no idea what that was doing here to begin with.

Drinking
Description: Minor formatting.

Flirting
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Dimensional Travel
Description: Minor formatting.

Genetic Research
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Smoking
Description: Minor formatting.

Voodoo
Alias: Added aliases based on description.

Death
Description: changed it a little, so that these characters CAN die during the course of the story. After all half
of the child traits actually applies to characters whose death is not ensured.

Reincarnation
Description: Minor formatting.
Parent traits: Removed Subject of because of redundancy. Also removed Resurrection. The two are different concepts.

Anemia
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Hospitalization
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Petplay
Description: Capitalization fixes, minor formatting.

Pussy Shaving
Description: Image internalisation.

Twin Boobjob
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Twin Boobjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Boobjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Non-penetrative Sex
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Naizuri
Alias: Added alias based on description.

Frot
Description: Removed "male-male" because of futanaris.

Reverse Cowgirl
Primary name: Capitalazitaion fix.

Polearm
Parent traits: Moved from Bladed Instrument under Weapons.

Hand Fan
Primary name: Changed to Hand Fan from Fan
Alias: Removed Hand Fan.
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Accessories and Others.

Camera
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Electric Appliances.
Description: Capitalization fixes.

Microphone
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Electric Appliances.
Description: Minor capitalization fix.

Mobile Phone
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Electric Appliances.

Radio
Primary Name: Changed to Radio from Transistor Radio.
Alias: Removed Radio, added Transistor Radio.
Description: Removed "transistor" from the first sentence.
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Electric Appliances.

Electric Appliances
Added new meta trait.

Drill [Weapon]
Primary name: Renamed to Drill [Weapon] from Drill.
Parent traits: Removed Weapons.
Description: Edited to fit the new pupose, removed second paragraph.

Drill [Tool]
Added new trait.

Simple Tools
Added new meta trait.

Hand Saw
Parent traits: Added Simple Tools.

Binoculars
Description: Minor capitalization fix.
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Broom
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.
Alias: Added broomstick.

Pen
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Pickaxe
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Ruler
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Scissors
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Shovel
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Tray
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Umbrella
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Musical Instrument
Primary name: Capitalization fix.

Whistle
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Simple Tools.

Locomotion
Added new meta trait.

Walking Stick
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Locomotion.

Bicycle
Alias: Added cycle.
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Locomotion.
Description: Copied the Wikipedia description.

Motorcycle
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Locomotion.

Swimming Board
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Locomotion.

Wheelchair
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Locomotion.

Food
Added new meta trait.

Lolipop
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Food.

Pocky
Alias: Added aliases based on description.
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Food.

Sport Instruments
Added new meta trait.

Baseball Bat
Parent traits: Added Sport Instruments.

Ball
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Sport Instruments.

Containers
Added new meta trait.

Suitcase
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Containers.

Bag
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Containers.

Medical Tools
Added new meta trait.

Hypodermic Needle
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Medical Tools.
Description: Minor typo fix.

Shield
Parent trait: Removed Items.

Miscellaneous Items
Added new meta trait.

Flower / Plant
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Miscellaneous Items.

Tarot Cards
Parent traits: Moved from Items under Miscellaneous Items.

Novelist
Parent traits: Moved from Careers under Writer.

Twin Blowjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Multiple Penetration
Primary name: Capitalization fix.

Triple Blowjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Multi-blowjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Anal Beads
Primary name: Capitalization fix.

Double-ended Dildo
Primary name: Capitalization fix.

Sex Engine
Description: Minor capitalization fix. Minor formatting.

Intercrural Sex
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Body Writing
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Erotic Spanking
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Deepthroat
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Blowjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Anilingus
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Cunnilingus
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Sixty-nine
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Female Ejaculation
Parent traits: Moved from Ejaculation under Sexual.

Ejaculation
Deleted. Pointless.

Public Masturbation
Description: Made it more precise by adding the second sentence.

Regenerative Hymen
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Ahegao
Alias: Alias synchronization.
Description: Removed some irrelevant parts about ahegao, as a meme.

Anal Sex
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Sex in front of an Audience
Primary name: Name synchronization.

Scat
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.
Description: Replaced the long, very medical-sounding wall of text with the one from the tag. Why overcomplicate
things?

Food Play
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.
Description: Made it more specific.

Hairjob
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Lesbian Sex
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Mutual Masturbation
Parent traits: Moved from Sexual under Masturbation.

Pegging
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Tentacles (Consensual)
Primary name: Changed to be more descriptive.
Alias: Added Consensual Sex Involving Tentacles.

Bestiality
Primary name: Name synchronization.
Alias: Alias synchronization.

Side Tail
Description: Minor formatting.

Thick Eyebrows
Description: Example link was dead, replaced it with an example character from the database.

Heterochromia
Description: Minor formatting.Last modified on 2015-01-11 at 23:12
#458 by silence
2015-01-11 at 16:19
< report >I agree (or don't care) with most of changes, but I still think, that you should somehow make Pussy Shaving's picture more anonymous =)

Oh, and what about sexual givers/receivers?
#459 by warfoki
2015-01-11 at 16:23
< report >I've just internalised it, that was the original image. I'll search a hentai image for it later.

Sexual traits: new thread a bit later.Last modified on 2015-01-11 at 23:08
#460 by barfboy
2015-01-12 at 08:03
< report >Jeez warfoki, are you god?
#461 by warfoki
2015-01-12 at 18:46
< report >As in Godawfully Obsessed with Details? Yeah, I suppose I am.
#462 by takata
2015-01-17 at 01:59
< report >Torn Pantyhose:
I think it becomes more ambiguous if you remove the part of the description saying that pantyhose torn in the process of sex also counts for this trait.

Ankle socks:
I assume ankle socks means this (link), which reaches below the ankle, as opposed to this (link), which reaches above the ankle. I don't get what "socks that stop at the heel" means in the description though. O.o I haven't seen any socks that stop before the heel.

Knee-high Socks:
Broken link for image. Was part of the set demonstrating the height difference between pantyhose, thigh high and knee high socks.

Miscellaneous Items:
I thought uncategorisable stuff should just go into Items. (But if you don't want to organise it like that, maybe you should put Cross under Miscellaneous Items too.)

Death:
Typo in first sentence. 3rd paragraph unneccesary. 2nd sentence of 2nd paragraph also unneccesary. 1st sentence of 2nd paragraph might be unneccesary, but may help in cases where a character is in some way nearly dead. (There are a few legal entanglements in real life over when a person is legally dead.)

Naizuri:
1st sentence does not make sense. Suggest: "This character is attempting to engage in mammary intercourse, but their breasts are too small to do it properly." Aside, I recall Orifushi Mafuyu doing this in the anime. When she sees she is insufficiently endowed to engage in mammary intercourse "normally" (rubbing the main character's penis between her breasts), she uses a slight variation (rubbing the main character's penis between her chest and the palms of her hands) that works much better. Does this variation count as "naizuri", and if so, should it be mentioned in the description?Last modified on 2015-01-17 at 02:02
#463 by warfoki
2015-01-17 at 10:27
< report >Torn Pantyhose: Removing that sentence doesn't change a thing. It said that the torn state of the pantyhose CAN be the result of rape or wild sex. It never said said that it must be. And I found it unnecessary, since the only thing that matters for this trait is that the pantyhose is torn. How did it became so is irrelevant.

Ankle socks
I assume you've never heard of half-socks then.

Knee-high Socks
That managed to slip through the cracks somehow. Fixed it.

Miscellaneous Items
Nah, this way it's less of a mess. As for Cross, see t6093.

Death
Well, that's embarrassing. Admittedly I wasn't paying attention to the details all that much here, I just added may and can before the verb die and called it a day. Now let me actually fix this...

Naizuri
Fixed. Also, to answer you question: yes, just combine it with the relevant trait(s).
#464 by takata
2015-01-17 at 13:00
< report >Naizuri:
Er.... nonono, it definitely doesn't count as a handjob. Calling it a handjob is misleading. It's definitely -just- naizuri. See link @ the 20:00 mark (NSFW). I preferred the description without the 3rd paragraph. >.< I'm quite sure anyone who knew what "naizuri" meant would recognise this as such a scene.Last modified on 2015-01-17 at 13:04
#465 by warfoki
2015-01-17 at 14:04
< report >Alright, I see what you mean. Removed that segment.
#466 by barfboy
2015-01-17 at 20:18
< report >Shouldn't Adultery be a subset of Netorare/Netori and not the other way around? I thought Adultery is specific to MARRIED individuals. Otherwise if someone betrays their boyfriend/girlfriend it's just cheating.
#467 by takata
2015-01-19 at 10:49
< report >Time loop:
I think this makes sense as a tag, but not as a trait. If a story has a time loop, every character in the story is automatically part of it. (Unless this trait is only to be applied to characters who can remember events from previous loops.)

Pussy Shaving:
Rename to: Pubic Hair Shaving
Change description to:
The pubic hair near this character's genitals is shaved during the story.

ExampleLast modified on 2015-01-19 at 10:50
#468 by warfoki
2015-01-19 at 12:10
< report >@Barfboy:
I guess the idea here was to have Infidelity cover every case of cheating without getting into the specifics too deep. Hence we have adultery as an alias. I'm fin with that really, but if you people think that having a separate Adultery trait is necessary for some reason, I see no harm in it.

@Takata:
Time Loop: For the most part, you are right. But how is that a problem? If we don't have this trait then people wanting to find characters who are subjects of time loops would have to search for the tag and check out the characters belonging to the found VNs manually. Also, there can be some exceptions. Say, an extra-dimensional being who actually creates the time-loop. Or the time-loop might glitch and someone fades out of it when it starts. Or the time loop is just part of the plot and some characters are only introduced after the time loop have been resolved. And so forth.

Pubic Hair Shaving:
Done.Last modified on 2015-01-19 at 12:13
#469 by barfboy
2015-01-19 at 21:19
< report >Oh whoops I'm sorry I screwed up, I meant the tag. I put this in the wrong thread. Trait is fine. Tag is kinda wonky.
#470 by barfboy
2015-01-20 at 17:59
< report >Heterosexual sex question.

Lesbian rapist princess link is engaged to homosexual cross dressing prince link

They realize they're 'perfect' for each other. So long as he's in a dress she's quite turned on and he enjoys it too. How do I express that two otherwise homosexual characters end up having sex together?

Heterosexual trait? That would just be retarded. Maybe some things just can't be expressed with tags or traits.
#471 by warfoki
2015-01-20 at 19:37
< report >Use Bisexual. And before anyone world bring up that they are just "hetero" for each other: doesn't matter.
#472 by savagetiger
2015-01-30 at 02:12
< report >Since you can't add the White-collar Worker trait to characters can you take the alias's off of it and put them on a new child trait called Office Worker?
For use on character's that work in office's but not as executive's or in a managing position.
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Do we need both Father Complex and Electra Complex? The second isn't used and there is only Oedipus Complex that has Mother Complex as an alias for comparison.Last modified on 2015-02-01 at 06:07
#473 by mashibana
2015-02-05 at 10:40
< report >The Womanizer trait is reserved for males, but there are some female characters that could use it too.
Should we make Womanizer gender-neutral or create a new trait just for female womanizers?Last modified on 2015-02-06 at 08:46
#474 by eacil
2015-02-14 at 06:10
< report >Relating to link and the two next revisions

warakanai please explain me how the definition of the tag which said "This character has the physical appearance of an adult of ages 40 to 65." can be ignored just because you read "Note that this trait only signifies the physical appearance of this character, and it may not reflect actual age." ? I think that note is not here for you to edit entries just because you decreed that this character is less than 40 years old "in appearance" aka "the appearance you say she has". First, how is it possible to decree that the character in question is less than 40 years old? Because she has big breasts she obviously had given birth to a whole platoon? Then, I think that note is only here when there is no age available on the official website, to avoid war when the character is 35-45 years old and you can't determine it precisely, to say it's the image she reflects that is important as a tag.
So, if I am right, until there is no official age of a character or if the chara has obviously more than 40 years old, stop fixing editings of other people just because you hate them. There is no way that this chara is more than 40yo in reality or in appearance, more like conduit said, in her 20's-30's. (And I think she is in her 20's.)
Please someone tells me that I am not blind and that she is obviously less than 40yo "in appearance".
#475 by wakaranai
2015-02-14 at 06:12
< report >^sorry not reading that wall of text.