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#476 by Ileca
2015-02-14 at 06:12
< report >Please stop being the dick you are.
#477 by wakaranai
2015-02-14 at 06:14
< report >you're so cute.
#478 by savagetiger
2015-02-14 at 07:14
< report >@474 & wakaranai
tbh just because that chick has giant boobs doesn't mean she looks 40.
Looks 20's 30's to me too, so the Young-Adult trait.
#479 by wakaranai
2015-02-14 at 07:51
< report >how about that part where she has a pelvis that could be used as a parking lot for minivan?
#480 by savagetiger
2015-02-15 at 00:05
< report >^same thing, just because she has big hips doesn't mean she looks 40, lots of 20-30 year olds have hourglass figures.
It's just that kind of super exaggerated nukige look, but add in the face and she doesn't look that old.
#481 by takata
2015-02-15 at 01:13
< report >So I guess we're at an impasse, where wakaranai thinks Shizuru Kosaka is over 40, while eacil and savagetiger think she looks under 40. I think Young-adult's range should be 18-30 instead of 18-40, but too late to change that. >.<
#482 by savagetiger
2015-02-15 at 02:45
< report >^no I agree too, about changing the Young-Adult range.
Those 'scientific' facts don't always line up with the common sense idea.
#483 by wakaranai
2015-02-15 at 04:26
< report >@48 i never stated her age, don't misinterpret me please. if anything, her face look like she's 18, but at the same she has a body of an aged adult woman.
she has big hips doesn't mean she looks 40
actually it does, as giving birth to several children makes irreversible changes to body constitution.Last modified on 2015-02-15 at 04:26
#484 by Ileca
2015-02-15 at 12:07
< report >To apply reality on a cartoon character makes no sense. An oppai loli must have the adult tag because she "obviously" lactates? She had not given birth to seven children not even one. What are you talking about??? (When you can give birth when you are a teenager...)
I bet she has the same age as Yukikaze and Rinko or maybe a little more (senpai like), something like 24yo. To compare her to a MILF makes no sense again when Asagi has rightfully the young-adult trait! I am not even sure that Shiranui has more than 40 years old but I understand why she has the adult trait.

@takata: funny fact, I first added the adult criteria because I thought the adult range was 21-XX. I never thought that it would be 40+...Last modified on 2015-02-15 at 12:09
#485 by warfoki
2015-02-15 at 20:28
< report >@472: Done.
@473: We have Slutty. Based on the description, it's more or less the same, just the female version of it.

@ the rest: *sigh*
#486 by silence
2015-02-22 at 06:43
< report >About Younger Than They Look: it's clumsy. Can you rename it to "Older Appearance" and move it under Apparent Age?
As well as Older Than They Look could be "Younger Appearance".

Also, can Childbirth be applied to animals? If yes, then we need to correct the description.

One more suggestion. Let's rename Waiter / Waitress to "Waitstaff", because it's shorter and not so... redundantly, or something.Last modified on 2015-02-23 at 15:09
#487 by warfoki
2015-02-25 at 16:48
< report >Stuff fixed.

Childbirth is a tricky one. It's been used for giving birth to humans, but then Monster Birth shouldn't be under it. Hmm, someone should check if the characters on this list are only giving birth to actual humans. If so, then I make a generic Birth parent trait for both Childbirth and Monster Birth. That still doesn't really solve the issue of animal birth, since that is just not fitting under either of them. So if that's an actual thing, then it calls for a new trait.

I'd also like some help on Ryokan Landlady. If this is just simply a fancy expression for hotel manager, then that should be the name and it should be a white collar job. Or is this something very specific? I'm a tad confused here...Last modified on 2015-02-25 at 16:48
#488 by timentimeagn
2015-02-25 at 17:49
< report >Hey, as the guy who submitted the Ryoukan tag I can sort of explain, considering I was having trouble thinking of the name to submit it in as the japanese term is "Okami" which also means...god...and wolf..

The term is used for the owner of a Ryoukan or the wife of an owner of the Ryoukan. She deals with external affairs but while a regular hotel manager just deals external and business affairs, the Okami also deals with helming the internal service department. So it is a weird mix of an Elevated head waitress and general manager/supervisor ect. The japanese term used for "Okami" translates to "Land Lady" but I had trouble finding a right name to used for the tag since people could just use the tag for like a apartment owner or something.

Sorry if this isn't really that clear. I submitted the trait like... at 2AM and I'm writing this when I just woke up.

EDIT: Also, should there be some weird trait for stuff like in
Automatic Henrietta

There a couple VNs out there that have this type. more so the Fairy size difference but I know like two others with Eye penetration.Last modified on 2015-02-26 at 09:31
#489 by silence
2015-02-26 at 13:43
< report >#487 Actually, it's not much important to have separate animal birth trait, I think. At least, I don't know any good examples of VNs, where it makes strong dramatical effect. I guess, "Heart de Roommate" is not worth it (this is a spoiler anyway).

Hmm, someone should check if the characters on this list are only giving birth to actual humans
I haven't played these nukiges, but judging from the screens, tags and traits, only Ninomiya Ayano could give a birth to someone or something non-human.Last modified on 2015-02-26 at 13:44
#490 by dk382
2015-02-26 at 13:57
< report >@488 "Inn Manager" should be descriptive and sufficient enough without relying on really specific Japanese terms that can be directly translated anyways, shouldn't it? I guess I don't understand why you need to use a Japanese word in this case. I recall most translations using Inn Manager or something very similar.Last modified on 2015-02-26 at 13:58
#491 by timentimeagn
2015-02-26 at 16:10
< report >^, Yeah, I guess I just mainly wanted a distinction between Japanese and Western kinds, to differentiate like idk... Fantasy Tavern/inns or the like.

Though the title should still be under Pink-Collar, since there are no male version for this Job in Japanese inns and not really for Western. I guess.
#492 by silence
2015-02-28 at 04:03
< report >Regarding denied Otherworldly.

I tried to describe a character from other world, which is not connected to actual world at all. He's just travelling trough the worlds, appeared unexpectedly for others, and maybe for theirself.
Protag from "Zero no Tsukaima" anime is a good example. VN examples: Majokko Silk and Tottemo Pheromone. Silk is a magician cursed to wander from one world to another. I don't know what name should I give to her trait. Extraterrestrial is not fit for obvious reason: aliens are from the same world/universe. I understand that "Otherworldly" has broader definition, but I can't think of anything better, than occupy it and make some exceptions. Besides, is there other meaning of this word that would appear in our database under same name? A familiars from FSN are from another "place", but I'm not sure about another "world". And they are connected to actual world some way or other. Anything else?
#493 by savagetiger
2015-02-28 at 06:51
< report >^Dimensional Traveler?
There's a engages in dimensional travel trait.
#494 by silence
2015-02-28 at 08:28
< report >^ Didn't know about this one. However, it's about activity, not about the origin. What's more exciting: sex with alien or sex with traveler (who might not be an alien)?
#495 by silence
2015-03-01 at 15:53
< report >I want to add a new trait "Impudent" with aliases:
Pushy
Sassy
Cheeky
Brash
Cocky
Impertinent

Most of them belong to Rude now, but I think it's wrong.

Actually, I'd like to use Assertive, but it has exclusively romantic and/or sexual line, for some reason. Though, wikipedia says: assertiveness is the quality of being self-assured and confident without being aggressive. Not a single word about sex or romance.
#496 by savagetiger
2015-03-02 at 02:23
< report >Baseball cap should be capatilized.
#497 by silence
2015-03-12 at 13:50
< report >warfoki, I have some objections to say, regarding recently approved traits.

Sidehair - I think, it's too wide. This one has sidehair, but this is infinitely far from what I tried to describe. I wanted the tails with more or less constant diameter, not a random-sized bush of hair. You made it clear via description, but you already know, that nobody reads it. Moreover, we have Side Tail, so we can't use "Side Tails" too (I guess you changed tails to hair because of that), but it would be less confusing to name new trait "Front Tails", with no aliases. Also, I can't agree with "long strips", because the therm "long" is very subjective. They should be long enough to be called "tails", but when you speak about long tails, it automatically assumes that there are short tails, that are forbidden for this trait. For example, Mizukoshi Mako has short tails imo. Still, she should be covered with this trait.

Now about Blessing / Blessing. Should we care about somebody blessed someone on the words? Just imagine a person looking for a character, who casts some positive magic, and he starts to play the VN with this character. But in the end it turns out that this character is an ordinary nun without any magical powers. What is the point of that? You could oppose me with "why you named it BLESSING instead of ENCHANTING then?". The answer will be simple: I wanted to oppose it to Cursing. By the way, Cursing restricts us from using this trait for the harmless speaking pattern.

Oh, and please look at #492 and #495, when you will have time (^_^)
#498 by gabezhul
2015-03-12 at 13:58
< report >What that guy has is an eye-covering hair style, not a sidehair. The rest of your complains are nitpicking and over-specifying something that cannot really be specified. Not to mention, "tails" refer to a bundle of hair held together by a piece of string or rubber, which doesn't fit the examples.

On another note though, I suppose there *is* such a thing as a "side-tail" (c9897 comes to mind), but that is a specific style of side-hair and the two are not synonymous.

As for the second one; your original descriptions for the blessings were exactly what you described: focused on a *gameplay element* that can be completely up to the discretion of the player, and thus completely useless for the purposes of the DB. Yes, an RPG white mage might have some kind of blessing, but you cannot tell for sure if he/she uses it during gameplay, and if you just presume that they do then you have to tag *every single character* with the receiving trait, because hey, he/she "might have blessed them!" Also, it discarded the narrative version of blessings, aka. the ones that were actually informative.
#499 by silence
2015-03-12 at 14:58
< report >
Not to mention, "tails" refer to a bundle of hair held together by a piece of string or rubber, which doesn't fit the examples
OK, let's call it "Side Hair-strips", "Front Hair-strips" or something like that. It's far better than "Sidehair".

your original descriptions for the blessings were exactly what you described: focused on a *gameplay element*
It may seem so, because I tried to make it in a wide sense, but I have an example for you. A wizard increased protag's charm with her spell, so he could attract random girls in order to make them... share their magical energy O_o. Can you see any RPG? Well, to exclude applying it to RPG magi, who are casting their spells as a *gameplay element*, we can warn users not to do so.

it discarded the narrative version of blessings, aka. the ones that were actually informative
Informative for what purpose? I'm wearing glasses. Informative? Yes. Do you care? I guess, no.
#500 by takata
2015-03-13 at 00:52
< report >It looks like Sidehair was intended to mark any character with well-defined locks of hair falling in front of their shoulders, as opposed to behind, as if this was something special, which it isn't. I don't think this was worth making a trait for.

For Blessing and Blessing, I kind of get what they could be used for, but there are too many things wrong with these traits as they are now. The name "blessing" holds too much religious connotation, but I can't think of a particularly good name right now. >.< If you allow a "verbal declaration of support" to be marked with this trait, it becomes too wide and too vague. You would also have to exclude "blessings" that occur only in gameplay sequences, since these are up to the player.

This reminds of Ilias' blessing from Monmusu Quest (which Luka did NOT receive). However, the description is vague enough that you could use this trait to describe the way the spirits lend their power to Luka. O.o


@Gabezhul: I don't think c9897 has a side tail. I think Akita Neru shows a particularly good example of a side tail.Last modified on 2015-03-13 at 00:54