|#1501 by barfboy|
2018-11-02 at 22:17
|done and thank you|
|#1502 by warfoki|
2018-11-03 at 04:42
|Alright, cleaned up the moderation queue again, got a couple left where I would appreciate some additional input: |
Bisexual Sex - In theory it makes perfect sense. Like we have Homosexual and Lesbian Sex separated. In practice I feel that this trait would be used for characters partaking in orgies or female characters getting gang raped at the same time. Which, in my opinion, makes the trait kinda useless as a way to search for characters who actually engage in bisexual sex. Plus, there's the issue with futanaris...
Fake Lover - The idea is not necessarily bad, but i feel that the description is kinda convoluted and the trait is trying to cover too many things at once. Plus the name is kinda ambiguous. My first guess upon seeing it that this character pretends to be the lover of someone to use said someone for their own goals.
Forced Infidelity - Do we really need this? I mean, just using a combination of Blackmail, Infidelity and possibly Rape covers this already. And those would have to be tagged anyway... I guess there's a larger than zero chance of a character existing where all 3 of those traits are on and it wouldn't fit under Forced Infidelity, but if so I've yet to see one.
Wingman - I know I was the one who helped to name this, but I also remember stating that we don't need to tag this. And it kinda stands: there are a ton of actions that can be labeled as "being a wingman", so much so that it becomes kinda vague. Like, for example this guy is a clear example, as he spends half of that show getting the two donkan main characters together (and it's bloody hilarious and adorable, would recommend). But usually it's not that clear cut. Like, here's an example: A, B and C are friends. A has a crush on B, and B has a crush on A. C decides to opt out from a free time activity that they would do together, leaving the two characters alone with their crushes. As a result A and B get together. Is C a wingman? What if he never clarifies that he did it to push the two together, still count? Or he has to have the express intention of getting A and B together?Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 06:09
|#1503 by minah|
2018-11-03 at 05:56
|I think Bisexual Sex is a useful trait. It's the sort of thing where I'd usually say to just filter for Men with Men Sex or Lesbian Sex and Heterosexual Sex, except the latter is too common to be a trait, so. Don't know why the context of the sex really matters; most other traits aren't separated for group sex vs. two people or rape vs. consensual.|
EDIT: Oh, hang on, I see what you mean, that Bisexual Sex could imply "sex with men and women in the same scene" more strongly than "sex with men and women at any time ever." Hm. I don't know. I'll see if I can think of a clearer name.
I guess Fake Lover is meant to apply to the sort of comedy of errors trope where two people agree to pretend to be in a relationship with each other to fool other people, but that's not super clear in the description and probably too specific.
Agreed with you on the last two.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 06:00
|#1504 by batoo|
2018-11-03 at 16:23
|When I created the trait Forced Infidelity it was for Tachibana Nagisa who fits perfectly for her (and it's also the whole of her personality that inspired me the trait Incorruptible, with other examples of course). |
I wanted to create a trait that differentiates more easily the "types" of infidelity, because the trait "infidelity" is itself quite broad and I wanted to differentiate this case because it's a type of infidelity which is detrimental to the whole of the couple, the one who is cheating is as much prejudiced as the one who is being deceived because he/she doesn't wish himself to deceive his/her spouse (more simply said, it is the exact opposite of Netorase who is purely consensual).
I can not explain it well enough so I'll illustrate it:
- Netorase (the two lovers agree that one has sex with another)
- Infidelity (one deliberately cheated on the other, no matter how the events that led to this infidelity, as long as the one who deceives the other perceives a personal "profit")
- Forced Infidelity (no one wants it and no one takes pleasure in doing it, to couple with the incorruptible trait if the original couple is not destroyed by this forced infidelity, it is possible that this infidelity is a secret for the other lover just as he can find out during the VN).
But otherwise yes, it's basically a trait to replace the combination of traits that are:
Infidelity + Blackmail + Rape / Rape by Proxy + Incorruptible (basically, it's a simplification).
I hope I have well explained but it's to the moderators to decide if the trait is useful or not at the end :)
For Wingman, well if the description really doesn't match and is too vague then I would let someone else create it better (I'm not a native english speaker after all ^^), I only have three examples of characters who play this role (including two who played it unconsciously) and I based on their actions to try to make a description ^^Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 16:25
|#1505 by namingmegently|
2018-11-04 at 16:10
|Sentient Object was placed in the Role > Nature category, not Body, so then why does Sentient Object's description specify that the character has the form of an inanimate object instead of just the nature of an inanimate object? As it is, the trait can't be paired with Humanoid (Non-human).|
|#1506 by barfboy|
2018-11-10 at 18:23
|I think the Nursing Handjob trait is long overdue |
It's a typical mother play/babying fetish that shows up quite often and should be separate from 'nursing' as those often don't involve a corresponding handjob.
Should the trait be acceptable I ask that the two images under Adult Breast Feeding and Adult Breast Feeding which show a nursing handjob and not just nursing be moved under the new trait and get replaced with new images.
|#1507 by thewayfarer|
2018-11-13 at 02:33
|About the Goblin trait that got rejected...|
I'm getting there. I found at least three characters who are goblins:
GrobLast modified on 2018-11-13 at 02:33
|#1508 by ramaladni|
2018-11-13 at 08:34
|#1507 Two of them are even listed as Orcs, huh...|
#1504 So, Netorare Type C?Last modified on 2018-11-13 at 08:43
|#1509 by thewayfarer|
2018-11-13 at 09:33
Orcs are an akin to the folklore Goblins, but nowadays "orc" only refer to those "tall and strong greenskins." But just using that word on the goblins is just confusing.
|#1510 by beliar|
2018-11-13 at 09:49
|Indeed, if we go by Tolkiens definition, goblins and orcs are the same thing. However in modern fantasy fiction that is frequently not the case. Case in point, Cla-Min is from a VN where both goblins and orcs exist and they are different species. Hence, whoever gave these characters an orc trait wasn't incorrect in the classical sense, but was incorrect regarding a particular fictional universe.|
|#1511 by thewayfarer|
2018-11-13 at 11:51
|Well, the goblins were dated *waaaaay* back in the years before Orcs have coined as a fantasy species. It's like Tolkiens' version of a "muscular goblin", which has since became a distinguishable species across other media in modern fantasy.|
(PS: That was me. I check the history. You know I tend to "improvise" traits .)
|#1512 by batoo|
2018-11-13 at 17:46
|#1508 Yeah, basically Forced Infidelity is the equivalent (as trait) of NTR Type C (who's a tag).|
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