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#2551 by sy74kya
2021-06-21 at 23:09
< report >You guys are probably going to do little more than laugh away the fact that I even suggested this, but...

Since we have a tag for Long Common Route for VNs that spend more than half the game time on the common route, shouldn't we have a Short Common Route tag for VNs that have a common route that is noticeably shorter than average? Not to be confused with Early Branching Plot; the length of the character routes are irrelevant.
#2552 by mrkew
2021-06-21 at 23:35
< report >Question for yorhel probably:
In the tag cloud, what is the logic behind ordering of tags that have the same tag power? How is the order decided exactly? I tried a few things and it doesn't seem to be time of addition, tag ID (date of creation of the tag itself that is), nor does it seem to be grouped by the master parent tag (theme/style/char/plot/setting)Last modified on 2021-06-21 at 23:35
#2553 by yorhel
2021-06-22 at 04:22
< report >Apparently I forgot to add a secondary order, so currently it's whatever-the-db-felt-was-convenient-order. I think I'll add an alphabetic order fallback.
#2554 by funnerific
2021-06-23 at 12:36
< report >Does "Chosen Choices Marking" have to be limited to colors? In harashou, for instance, they're simply marked as "previously chosen". I think the description should be expanded to include other options, for example:
"The game system marks previously chosen choices in a different colour or in other ways for easier recognition."
#2555 by naiohoras
2021-06-23 at 14:40
< report >bye Voice Replay, you will be missed.
that said, I agree with everyone else that "No Voice Replay" should be a tag. it has many purposes. one of the most important is that many people learn Japanese and its pronounciation with VN, so jumping to a VN with no voice replay function would defeat that purpose, and it could become a fair warning to people that you should pay attention to the voice twice as much.
#2556 by mrkew
2021-06-23 at 14:46
< report >A question regarding tag deletion. It's deleted, but it's still tagged on 3085 VNs. Problem is that you can't search for deleted tags, so there's no way of getting the list of tagged VNs without creating an SQL query. Correct?
#2557 by yorhel
2021-06-23 at 14:48
< report >Correct, except that (IIRC) you also can't query it using SQL after the database updates, because deleted tags are not included in the dump.
#2558 by mrkew
2021-06-23 at 14:50
< report >So it's impossible from tomorrow onwards to get that list to downvote the deleted tag.Last modified on 2021-06-23 at 14:51
#2559 by beliar
2021-06-23 at 14:51
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that said, I agree with everyone else that "No Voice Replay" should be a tag
Mayhap. Feel free to create it. I'll try to tackle the queue this weekend, as it hasn't been touched in quite a while.

A question regarding tag deletion.
Unless I'm misremembering, the deleted tags are removed from the tagged VNs, if not immediately, then during the db update.
Ninja'd by the God-Emperor.Last modified on 2021-06-23 at 14:52
#2560 by mrkew
2021-06-23 at 14:56
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Unless I'm misremembering, the deleted tags are removed from the tagged VNs, if not immediately, then during the db update.
It will disappear from the tag cloud, but it will stay on the tag page. Example:
link - teasing is still there after an unknown amount of time greater than 1 day.
#2561 by beliar
2021-06-23 at 14:58
< report >Oh, you mean that! Does it really matter? They are marked as 'deleted'...
#2562 by mrkew
2021-06-23 at 15:03
< report >It bothers me but I guess not that much. Certainly not as much as "not applicable" traits which appear even in the tag cloud.
#2563 by naiohoras
2021-06-23 at 15:37
< report >#2559
proposed the tag, but I just realized now that it should be a child tag of Voice Acting instead, unlike its predecessor Voice Replay.
#2564 by yorhel
2021-06-23 at 16:38
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So it's impossible from tomorrow onwards to get that list to downvote the deleted tag.
I forgot about the tag link browser. That will remain available for as long as the votes are in the DB, which is as long as no mod presses the "wipe votes" butten, which is probably forever.
(Not much of a point downvoting the tag if it's never going to be undeleted, anyway, since it's practically invisible)
#2565 by draconyan
2021-06-25 at 07:56
< report >mrkew made me notice i posted in the wrong topic.
My original post:

He said he disagreed with my suggestion, but either every "X schooler" should imply "X school", or none should, for consistency.
#2566 by mrkew
2021-06-25 at 08:27
< report >Yeah that was my point. None should. Just because there is a heroine who attends x level of school does not imply in any way that the VN itself has scenes set in that school.
There are numerous VNs which just say that the heroine is an elementary schooler, a middle schooler, or a high schooler, simply for fetish purposes or to indirectly let the reader know their age. Yet those VNs could be entirely set up outside of school environment. At home, park, in summer when there's no school etc.
#2567 by draconyan
2021-06-25 at 08:31
< report >Indeed, now that I'm rereading the tags, the description says "Some part of the game takes place in a X school.", which isn't necessarily true if the characters are students. I agree with you.
#2568 by naiohoras
2021-07-03 at 06:30
< report >ASMR should be added to Binaural Audio as an alias since it's probably not worth it to create an entirely new tag for that.
#2569 by naiohoras
2021-07-04 at 13:04
< report >I don't understand why we allowed Ear-Cleaning tag but not Ear Cleaning trait...
#2570 by ezezin
2021-07-04 at 23:42
< report >Unless this two settings are very different, can Bar have "Tavern" as an alias?Last modified on 2021-07-07 at 12:09
#2571 by bathhouse-owner
2021-07-09 at 03:58
< report >Does "smooth job" work as an alias of Naizuri? I recall Newton to Ringo no Ki using it at least once.
#2572 by lunaterra
2021-07-13 at 18:53
< report >Can a note be added to the description of No "Keep Voice on Click" Option to not use the tag for VNs that have no voice acting in any release?
#2573 by beliar
2021-07-13 at 19:22
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Does "smooth job" work as an alias of Naizuri?
Seems really obscure or an invention of the translator. When I hear the phrase I imagine an easy/simple job and not 'naizuri'. Might be confusing to use it as an alias.
#2574 by ezezin
2021-07-13 at 19:48
< report >Beliar, since you are managing tags... (#2559):
I'll try to tackle the queue this weekend, as it hasn't been touched in quite a while.
#2575 by beliar
2021-07-13 at 19:49
< report >These ain't the droids you are looking for...